Wed 3 Nov, 2010 11:35 am
Well, many won, several lost. A new majority is in the House adna slimmer majority for the Senate Dems.
What effect will the teaparty freshmen have in the government?
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Setanta
 
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Wed 3 Nov, 2010 12:30 pm
i suspect that one effect will be to drive the RNC to distraction trying to deal with their publicly expressed stupidity.
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Green Witch
 
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Wed 3 Nov, 2010 12:36 pm
The result will be a lot of name calling, a lot of ranting, a lot of finger pointing, but overall it will lead to even greater government constipation. It also seems fitting that the new speaker of the house will have a name that most people associate with a male erection. Kind of sums up the whole new environment.
blueveinedthrobber
 
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Wed 3 Nov, 2010 12:47 pm
It will be hilarious. When tragedy is inevitable laugh in it's face. IMO.

I find it hilarious thatyesterday hope and change was a load of bullshit and for suckers. Today the people who said that are full of hope for change. Hooty Hoo!!!!
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farmerman
 
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Wed 3 Nov, 2010 01:11 pm
@Green Witch,
I think Boner will stick to him, should he pull some stunts. This morning I heard the "call for coopertion" from everybody except Roux PAul .

Waitll the teabaggers realize that theres no way that we can reduce deficits without new revenue streams. Cuts wont cut it.
wandeljw
 
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Wed 3 Nov, 2010 01:39 pm
The Tea Party - Republican Party relationship is very touchy right now. I do not believe that the Tea Party platform will have any noticeable effect.
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dyslexia
 
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Wed 3 Nov, 2010 02:47 pm
I believe the Tea Party will liberate all america from the shackles of government, eliminate all taxes, eliminate all socialistic spending, bring pure morality to Washington D.C., solve the energy dilemma, provide high-paying jobs to everyone, reverse global warming, end world-wide famine, cure cancer, lower everyone's rent, restore women to the pedestal where they belong and cure homosexuality.
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farmerman
 
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Wed 3 Nov, 2010 04:45 pm
@dyslexia,
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I believe the Tea Party will liberate all america from the shackles of government, eliminate all taxes, eliminate all socialistic spending, bring pure morality to Washington D.C., solve the energy dilemma, provide high-paying jobs to everyone, reverse global warming, end world-wide famine, cure cancer, lower everyone's rent, restore women to the pedestal where they belong and cure homosexuality.
I wish they could fix my cable bill too.
rabel22
 
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Wed 3 Nov, 2010 04:49 pm
@farmerman,
There you go again, thinking of only yourself!
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farmerman
 
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Wed 3 Nov, 2010 05:05 pm
@H2O MAN,
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If nothing else, let's hope they will help keep Obama democrats on a short leash
It seems to be all about "power" with you spurt. Whos going to fix the economy that the brilliant GOPers handed off? Obama hasnt been able to do anything do you think the GOP can undo the **** they caused?

If Nothing else, the party of "No" will now have to stand up and be counted rather than just being an obstructionist party.

PS, After the election, theres a hint of significant pinienzes that drug companies and health insurance companies were spilling into GOP coffers as 501 c(4's).

Several hundred exit polls have pretty much shown that the issue WAS NOT health care but was the economy alone.

Tax n spend=DEMs
Borrow n spend= GOP

edgarblythe
 
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Wed 3 Nov, 2010 05:11 pm
@farmerman,
They won't stand up and do anything these next two years. That would make Obama look too successful and help him win reelection.
High Seas
 
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Wed 3 Nov, 2010 05:15 pm
@Green Witch,
Green Witch wrote:

The result will be a lot of name calling, a lot of ranting, a lot of finger pointing......It also seems fitting that the new speaker of the house will have a name that most people associate with a male erection. Kind of sums up the whole new environment.

You only think that because you're ignorant of etiquette; please try to learn proper pronunciation of the name of the new Speaker:
[quote]... Boehner first springs up in America's decennial census in 1860, where there are 29 Boehners, against zero for 1850. This gives rise to the obvious hypothesis that the first Boehners or Böhners came with a wave of other Germans to America after the repression of Germany's 1848 revolutions.....However, most Americans can't really get their mouths around German's umlauted vowels. A Brit might manage, by trying to pronounce "Berner", to come to grips with something like Boehner as it would be said in Germany. But Americans can't swallow those "r's" in quite the same way, and so would only manage an effort like "Burner".....[/quote]
Cycloptichorn
 
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Wed 3 Nov, 2010 05:36 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

They won't stand up and do anything these next two years. That would make Obama look too successful and help him win reelection.


I think this is absolutely true. I mean, what can they do that they will end with credit for? If things get better, Obama is going to claim credit for it. Austerity plans on their part sure as **** aren't going to create jobs. They aren't going to be able to meaningfully change tax rates in the next two years.

There's no calculus for them except trying to keep the economy down, and they'll just try and find as many ways to do that as possible without seeming like they are.

Cycloptichorn
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Wed 3 Nov, 2010 05:37 pm
They will keep the focus of the Republicans on working to reduce the size and scope of our bloated and overreaching federal government.

I always laugh when I hear people argue that the deficit can't be brought under control without increasing taxes.

Of course it can't if we insist on funding an ever growing burocracy designed to tell us just how we can and cannot live our lives, or if we insist on promising hundreds of millions of Americans a free lunch.

The same people usually argue, implicitly, that there is no reason to reign in discretionary spending because we can't or won't address entitlements.

Yes we have to address entitlements and I believe the Tea Party candidates will lead the way.

The way this country runs financially is unsustainable and the answer isn't to take more money from the people who are driving the economy. The bill is going to come due, and soon.

If you are spending more money than you have coming in, you can find a way to make more money or you can cut back on your spending. Those are the only two choices you ultimately have.

Unfortunately, government has made this clear choice muddy by offering all sorts of ways for people to have their cake and eat it.

farmerman
 
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Wed 3 Nov, 2010 05:38 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
One thing I think the HOUSe leadership will try to accomplish is some symbolic reduction or repeal of the HEalth CAre. Thatway , feeling that theyve got significant aupport from some Dems, anything that would get sent to the Pres would, probably be vetoed, >SEE? would be the GOPs cry.
Setanta
 
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Wed 3 Nov, 2010 05:39 pm
My favorite whine is the one to the effect that the government has no business in the health care business.

Did you send back your Medicare card yet, Bubba?
Cycloptichorn
 
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Wed 3 Nov, 2010 05:44 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

One thing I think the HOUSe leadership will try to accomplish is some symbolic reduction or repeal of the HEalth CAre. Thatway , feeling that theyve got significant aupport from some Dems, anything that would get sent to the Pres would, probably be vetoed, >SEE? would be the GOPs cry.


I'm not sure how they will do this, because the individual elements of the bill are quite popular. I mean, how do you sell ending the mandate? The insurance companies will SCREAM about going out of business due to the high costs of insuring those with pre-existing conditions!

So, are they going to run on ending the ban on discriminating against existing conditions? How the hell do you play that, going into an election year?

The bill was designed so the whole thing falls apart if you take the axe to individual parts of it. Quite smart on the part of the Dems to do that, really.

The WH is also putting out messages that they are looking forward to pushing back hard on this. The Republicans trying to 'steal your healthcare' and Obama 'protecting your healthcare' is a total ******* loser for the Republicans, and they know it.

All this is why the top Republicans have been signaling for months now that there will be no serious challenge to the HC bill. I don't expect anything more than nibbling around the edges to come out.

Cycloptichorn
farmerman
 
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Wed 3 Nov, 2010 05:44 pm
@Setanta,
The majority of the teabaggers were old farts . You know how we can get the facts a bit off.

I voted this morning, whats all the hubub bub?
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farmerman
 
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Wed 3 Nov, 2010 05:46 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Thats whhy itll be symbolic and it will really have to be a repeal. Im interested in how far Boehner will assert hisself
 

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