OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 03:48 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Living in the past ill- prepares you for tomorrow unless you are an archivist of politics.
MENSA accepts over 200 equivalent standardized tests including SATs and LSATs.
The usual score of 700 is prob defined as a 95%ile for college bound. This then assumes that the remaining untested have a specific projected distribution and that pushes the 95%ile up to a 98 or 99 %ile.
I suspect that u r in error because if that had happened
(that admission criteria had dropped from the top 2% to the top 5%)
there 'd have been a lot of noise about it in Mensa and there has been none whatsoever.

When I see Dr. Abbie Salney, the Mensa psychologist,
at a gathering, I can ask her, but she 'd think I was nuts
to ask a question like that. She 'd think I was asking a stupid question.





David
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 03:57 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
She 'd think I was asking a stupid question.


Just put her in touch with any number of people here. They can confirm that you do that with alarming regularity.
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parados
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 06:05 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Wow.. You didn't understand what FM said. It's a pretty basic algebra problem.

Who's test did you copy to get into MENSA?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 06:38 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:
Wow.. You didn't understand what FM said. It's a pretty basic algebra problem.

Who's test did you copy to get into MENSA?
I remain immune from your efforts to annoy me.





David
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 06:45 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
She 'd think I was asking a stupid question.

Please try and bring it up in another way other than in a question and let us know what she says! Say something like, "you wouldn't believe what I heard someone suggest!
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 06:55 pm
@reasoning logic,
David wrote:
She 'd think I was asking a stupid question.
reasoning logic wrote:
Please try and bring it up in another way other than in a question and let us know what she says!
Say something like, "you wouldn't believe what I heard someone suggest!
Talking to her is not really a problem.

She is very approachable at Regional Gatherings and the Annual Gathering.
I 've known her for quite a long time.
Some Board Members r very close friends of mine.
It WOUD have come up in conversation,
if there were contemplated changes in the Membership Criterion.






David
plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 10:25 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
This statement is not hostile to homosexuals; I am not anti-homosexual, nor anti-gay at graduations,
but I remember remaining at home, in having no interest in leftist speakers at my high school n college graduations;
(added to the fact that thay refused to distribute the diplomas).


Complete gobbledeegook.

You remained home because you were the mad boy in the attic.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 10:28 pm
@farmerman,
When someone takes the SATs, s/he has the option to receive mail from subscribers to the testing service's lists. My daughter received so many responses that the mailman would ring our bell and hand them to us. They simply did not fit in the mail box.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 10:51 pm
@plainoldme,
How does one become a member of Mensa? By contacting Mensa. The interested party may then submit scores from an IQ test recognized by Mensa or take one of the organization's tests.

In other words, members court the organization. To me, that makes membership less impressive. It isn't like joining an organization based upon an interest, be it a sport, a musical style, reading or drama. It is just an organization based upon the luck of the draw on a single test.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 05:30 pm
@plainoldme,
Quote:
This statement is not hostile to homosexuals; I am not anti-homosexual, nor anti-gay at graduations,
but I remember remaining at home, in having no interest in leftist speakers at my high school n college graduations;
(added to the fact that thay refused to distribute the diplomas).
plainoldme wrote:
Complete gobbledeegook.
In other words the (alleged) English Professor is not smart enuf
to understand ordinary English.


plainoldme wrote:
You remained home because you were the mad boy in the attic.
I was not in the attic,
but I was mad at the commies n other leftsts.





David
plainoldme
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 07:49 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Talking to her is not really a problem.


One is never certain whether statements like that are meant to irritate, to amuse or to reflect your basic state of not-getting it.

You are the Gracie Allen of a2k.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 07:51 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
No, david, the opposite is true. You do not understand enough English to compose a rational sentence. Like okie, you are in need of remedial education.

okie
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 09:35 pm
@plainoldme,
You could start your education, pom, by learning that proper names should be capitalized, so place a capital D on david.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 10:29 pm
@okie,
Jump! It is flying over your head! Jump! Quickly!
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 10:39 pm
@okie,
Put a D on David.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2011 08:11 am
This article addresses the right wing racism our cheerleaders here fail to admit to:


How Fox News Uses 'Big, Scary Hip-Hop' to Race-Bait its Viewers
By Julianne Escobedo Shepherd, AlterNet
Posted on May 17, 2011, Printed on May 19, 2011
http://www.alternet.org/story/150986/how_fox_news_uses_%27big%2C_scary_hip-hop%27_to_race-bait_its_viewers

Last week, Fox News’ Sean Hannity tried to create a controversy over the rapper Common’s invitation to a White House poetry event. Citing a lyric in which Common criticized President Bush for lying to the American people and leading the nation into an unjust war, Hannity tried to paint the rapper as dangerous and "controversial,” the kind of person the Secret Service needed to vet. The lyric in question: "Burn a Bush ‘cause for peace he no push no button/ Killing over oil and grease/no weapons of destruction."

Drawing upon the concepts of metaphor and allusion many of us learned in seventh-grade English class, we can surmise that Common did not literally mean to "burn" Bush, and that he was making a reference to the biblical concept of the burning bush. In hip-hop, as in literature, this is called wordplay. And clearly the more important point of the refrain is "no weapons of destruction," referring to the lie that Saddam Hussein possessed WMD.

But Hannity, being the Fox News ratings-whore that he is, accused Common of being a violent rapper. He also accused him of being pro-"cop-killer," selectively citing lyrics from Common’s song with Cee-Lo, "A Song for Assata," an ode to Assata Shakur, the COINTELPRO-targeted Black Panther who was accused (many believe falsely) of shooting a state trooper in 1973. Karl Rove called Common a "thug" before using the opportunity to call Obama a flip-flopper. Sarah Palin, for her part, furthered her strange, vicious attacks on Michelle Obama, saying, "the judgment is just so lacking of class and decency and all that’s good about America with an invite like this."

Before Jon Stewart sat down to debate the notoriously anti-hip-hop Bill O’Reilly this week (more on that later), he cited the hypocrisy of the Fox Pundits – George W. Bush honored the notoriously violent lyric’d Johnny Cash, and Sarah Palin is a fan of gun-toting racist Ted Nugent. Then Stewart poked fun at Fox, ultimately closing his hilarious monologue with the salvo, "Honestly, I just feel sorry for you guys now."

Well, I don’t. It certainly may seem like the Fox News talking heads are ignorant, or inflammatory, or desperate for news. But it’s clear to me that these guys know exactly what they’re doing: trying to re-ignite the racist hip-hop culture wars of the ‘90s to enrage and engage their largely white, super-conservative base -- a base that, judging from the Tea Party, is terrified that the days of white reign might be numbered.

But it’s even more complicated than that. Common, for one, is about the least controversial rapper the First Lady could have invited to the White House. He’s considered one of hip-hop’s penultimate positive rappers. As I noted here, he is seen within hip-hop as a largely gentle, even hippie rapper, promoting peace and self-love as much as he expresses anger with the system. You could name hundreds of more offensive people in rap and any genre of music. (For the sake of not further exposing Sean Hannity to pop culture, I shall refrain, although he should definitely take a look at this Billboard article titled "Common’s Least Controversial Lyrics.")

But this is not about Common, per se. This is about Fox News preying on conservative white fears of the scary black thug trope, trying to paint anyone and everyone of color as racist against whites. Because ultimately, many ultra-conservative white people simply don’t like the fact that we have a black president. By attempting to associate the Obamas with people they deem "contrary to American values," they can reaffirm their own prejudices and take comfort in their own false narratives of white victimization. And by using hip-hop as a scapegoat––a genre that, 40 years after its invention, most people in the media still don’t seem to understand–-they’re trying to paint Obama with the same racist ideas that have plagued hip-hop for years: that it is "ghetto," "unseemly," "thugged out," what have you. Fox (and Karl Rove, in particular) is very savvy about this. That’s why, practically seconds after Common’s "controversial" lyrics came out, Hannity and Rove were making note of the fact that he attended Reverend Wright’s church.

An even starker example of this is the Right’s targeting of soul singer Jill Scott, who’s even less controversial than Common. (Conservative pundits must have given themselves carpal tunnel Googling the White House Poetry Event guest list.) Shortly after Fox’s rap freakout, Mediaite reported that Drudge had found a column Scott wrote for Essence in 2010. In it, she wrote, "When my friend told me his wife was indeed Caucasian, I felt my spirit...wince," which Drudge then Tweeted.

This quote was supposed to be an example of Scott's racism toward whites, but even out of context, you could guess what she meant––the saddening idea that a black man might buy into an historically ingrained racist perception in America that white women are more attractive and more desirable than black women. And, reading the article in context, that is precisely what she meant:

We reflect on this awful past and recall that if a black man even looked at a white woman, he would have been lynched, beaten, jailed or shot to death. In the midst of this, black women and black men struggled together, mourned together, starved together, braved the hoses and vicious police dogs and died untimely deaths on southern back roads together. These harsh truths lead to what we really feel when we see a seemingly together brother with a Caucasian woman and their children. That feeling is betrayed. While we exert efforts to raise our sons and daughters to appreciate themselves and respect others, most of us end up doing this important work alone, with no fathers or like representatives, limited financial support (often court-enforced) and, on top of everything else, an empty bed. It's frustrating and it hurts!

Our minds do understand that people of all races find genuine love in many places. We dig that the world is full of amazing options. But underneath, there is a bite, no matter the ointment, that has yet to stop burning. Some may find these thoughts to be hurtful. That is not my intent. I'm just sayin'.

Again, this is not about Jill Scott – it’s about Fox trying to scare its audience into believing that President Obama is racist against whites. But just to clear her name: Jill Scott is one of the most respected and talented R&B artists working right now. She writes songs about self-esteem and love and empowering yourself, and she’s never once exploited her sexuality for gain.

But Fox and the Right want to create a false Sister Souljah moment. Let me refresh your memory: in 1992, Sistah Souljah, a rapper and activist, was interviewed for the Washington Post about the Los Angeles riots after the Rodney King verdict. She was quoted as saying, “If black people kill black people every day, why not have a week and kill white people?” President Clinton criticized her for what sounded like, yes, an outrageous comment. But her point was not that people should kill white people, but that poor black people living in impoverished, gang-riddled areas of Los Angeles who were used to killing other black people wouldn’t think twice about sparing anyone’s life. The full context:

"I mean, if black people kill black people every day, why not have a week and kill white people? You understand what I'm saying? In other words, white people, this government and that mayor were well aware of the fact that black people were dying every day in Los Angeles under gang violence. So if you're a gang member and you would normally be killing somebody, why not kill a white person? Do you think that somebody thinks that white people are better, or above dying, when they would kill their own kind?"

Hannity and Rove and Palin and Drudge were tearing a script from that playbook, sticking it to Common and Scott, and hoping it would rub off on Obama, even though all of their assertions about the White House poetry invitees were mostly fantasy.

Which brings us to Monday night, when Jon Stewart debated Bill O’Reilly on the O’Reilly Factor about the topic. While Stewart tried to speak reasonably about the context of each of the accusations against Common, O’Reilly talked over him (as is his way), though Stewart got in a few shots. ("Guess who wrote a song about Leonard Peltier? Bono. Guess where he was? The White House. BOO-YAH.") But his most important comment:

There is a selective outrage machine here at Fox... This guy is in the crosshairs in a way that he shouldn’t be, whether you agree with him or not. You may think he’s ignorant in believing that Assata Shakur is innocent. You may think he’s ignorant in believing that Mumia is. But then guess what. Bono can’t go to the White House, Springsteen can’t go to the White House, Bob Dylan can’t go to the White House. You’ve got a lot of people who can’t sit in the White House because they’ve written songs about people convicted of murder.

Aaaand... hip-hop gets scapegoated again.

As for the actual White House poetry event last week, it went off without a hitch. Jill Scott read a poem about high rates of HIV. Common rapped and referenced Martin Luther King Jr. No one was harmed.

Julianne Escobedo Shepherd is an associate editor at AlterNet and a Brooklyn-based freelance writer and editor. Formerly the executive editor of The FADER, her work has appeared in VIBE, SPIN, New York Times and various other magazines and websites.

© 2011 Independent Media Institute. All rights reserved.
View this story online at: http://www.alternet.org/story/150986/

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plainoldme
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2011 08:14 am
@plainoldme,
I sometimes wonder how sarah palin manages to put on her shoes in the morning. This is a dumb woman.
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H2O MAN
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2011 08:16 am
POM is such a teabagee, she reminds me of Maxine Waters.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2011 08:22 am
@plainoldme,
Sometimes, men can be more catty about other men than women are about women. I wonder if critics of Common, like O'Reilly and Hannity (the Irish are no strangers to racism) would have been quieter had Common been an unattractive man. No one would accuse O'Reilly and Hannity of being cute, let alone handsome, but Common's movie star looks might be as much a source of their discontent as his lyrics.

As for burning bush -- which was obviously a play on the Bible as well as the family name of two former presidents -- when my kids were in middle school during the first Bush administration, when the election of 1992 rolled around, their classmates composed a chant: Burn the Bush, flush the Quayle.

It's a rather natural metaphor.
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JTT
 
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Reply Thu 19 May, 2011 09:23 am
@plainoldme,
Quote:
But Hannity, being the Fox News ratings-whore that he is, accused Common of being a violent rapper.


I don't suppose that Hannity saw the irony in calling Common violent for not killing anyone whereas GW Bush is, according to Hannity, not violent for killing hundreds of thousands.
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