OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Reply Mon 24 Jan, 2011 03:36 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
I sincerely and seriously doubt that a pistol weighed 30 pounds. That sort of weight, balanced only in the extended hand, would lead to inaccuracy.

BTW, women have steadier hands than men do, which is why women can hold a camera at a slower opening and take better pictures than men can. Perhaps, then Jefferson's niece could have aimed a heavy pistol than his nephew.
Plain, u r not tracking the argument.
U have lost track of the argument.
U yourself estimated the weight as being "30 pounds".
I got that estimate from YOU.

If your posts are going to be this badly disorganized,
then I may well stop responding to them.

I 'm losing more and more respect for u, Plain.





David
plainoldme
 
  1  
Reply Mon 24 Jan, 2011 03:40 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
U yourself estimated the weight as being "30 pounds".
I got that estimate from YOU.


I estimated nothing.

You not only can not read, you can not remember.

I reported that I remember that the reproduction Kentucky flint lock, which was a popular gun during the era, used in the 1992 movie, The Last of the Mohicans, weighed 30 pounds.

Had I estimated, I would have pontificated on the metal and wood that came together to make a long gun that measured between 36 and 42 inches.
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OmSigDAVID
 
  -1  
Reply Mon 24 Jan, 2011 03:47 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:
Right.. indecipherable...


There are hardly shades of meaning. Jefferson tells his nephew to go for walks as exercise. He expounds on the benefit of walking. He tells him to take a gun instead of a book on the walks so he observes what is around him. Not much there that is indecipherable.



The only thing that is indecipherable is David's argument that his sole intention was
to get his nephew to use the gun.
O, my GOODNESS!
That 's a new development, parados; an abrupt degradation of your argument.
U never did THAT before.

I have never said, nor implied, nor even thawt
in the privacy of my own mind
that it was the "SOLE INTENTION" of the Jefferson letter to his 12 year old nephew.
There were many other intentions manifested. Shame on u!

The falsity of your accusation against me is very conspicuous. U shoud be ashamed.





David
plainoldme
 
  1  
Reply Mon 24 Jan, 2011 03:51 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
David, you lost. Stand up and take it like a man. Your infantile behavior is tiresome. Rattling on about nothing does not make us respect you. Insulting parados, monterey and me doesn't matter. As my father would say, "Consider the source." This source is ". . . full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."
OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Reply Mon 24 Jan, 2011 04:01 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
"Consider the source." This source is ". . . full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."
That is my perception of U, Plain.
There are other leftists in this forum
whose minds I respect.

I 'm very, very close to writing u off, as a hopeless, mindless nut, Plain.





David
parados
 
  2  
Reply Mon 24 Jan, 2011 05:56 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
So, are you now arguing that Jefferson didn't intend his nephew to shoot the gun?
plainoldme
 
  2  
Reply Mon 24 Jan, 2011 06:37 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Fine. Whatever please your paranoid self in your empty life.
OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2011 06:50 am
@parados,
parados wrote:
So, are you now arguing that Jefferson didn't intend his nephew to shoot the gun?
No.
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OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2011 06:51 am
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
Fine. Whatever please your paranoid self in your empty life.
U do not know what paranoid is.
plainoldme
 
  1  
Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2011 10:12 am
@OmSigDAVID,
You continually tell me that I do not know what paranoid is but you are the one who continually recalls that your childhood was only happy after you were given a pistol to carry to school. Your need for a gun is paranoia writ large. Unless, of course, it was the same sort of mental illness the Loughner kid suffers from.
OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2011 10:51 am
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
You continually tell me that I do not know what paranoid is
I listed all the classic, well known symptoms of paranoia, and u dismissed them
out-of-hand; hence, u must have some DIFFERENT, personal definition of "paranoia"
since u reject the classic definition.







plainoldme wrote:
but you are the one who continually recalls
that your childhood was only happy after
you were given a pistol to carry to school.[Then, I felt serene. David]
1. It was a revolver, not a pistol.
2. It was not a gift; I won it in a poker game.
That began my gun collection.








plainoldme wrote:
Your need for a gun is paranoia writ large.
That 's like someone saying that YOUR need of a lawyer is "paranoia writ large."

In your post, U strongly IMPLY,
that danger from crime does not exist;
its only imaginary; a product of delusion.

Ergo, u exhibit symptoms of psychotic detachment from reality.

Get thee to a psychiatrist.




Note that I have posted MANY TIMES
that I have had plenty of guns since age 8.
I don 't need more guns for personal security.

My desire is that MY FELLOW CITIZENS be well armed
in defense of their property.

I want to live in an ARMED SOCIETY,
whose citizens are bristling with guns,
both concealed and worn openly, everywhere u look.
That is AMERICA to me. It is Individualist; anti-collectivist.
It supports radical self-reliance, dismissing the collective.

I do not need more guns for myself. I have enuf of them.
When I have acquired guns in recent years,
it has been in the same spirit
as an antique car collector who adds exhibits,
or when I add another $10 gold piece to my coin collection.





David
revelette
 
  2  
Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2011 11:20 am
Your idea of what you want your world to look like seems like a fantastical rendition of old wild west movies. I would like the world to move forward rather than backward the way it seems a lot of people on the right seem to.

Speaking of which, seen previews of the new Johnny Depp 'Rango'? Might go see it with my granddaughter.

So, anything else with the tea party besides an obsession with gun rights?
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parados
 
  1  
Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2011 11:28 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Didn't you claim you got your first gun at the age of 6? Now you are claiming you won it in a poker game?

Who were you playing with that would bet a gun, let alone let a child win the gun?
OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2011 11:59 am
@parados,
parados wrote:
Didn't you claim you got your first gun at the age of 6?
I said 8, not 6.
That 's when I arrived in Arizona.
Thay loved their guns then, as thay do now.





parados wrote:
Now you are claiming you won it in a poker game?
Yes, as I have said for years, both here & on Abuzz.


parados wrote:
Who were you playing with that would bet a gun,
let alone let a child win the gun?
Other kids in the naborhood,
who were armed a lot better than I was,
including after I won it.
2 inch .38 caliber Smith & Wesson Model 36

He bet it to cover a raise.
Thay had better stuff than I did.





David
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plainoldme
 
  1  
Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2011 03:52 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
I listed all the classic, well known symptoms of paranoia


You have no expertise in psychology.

Quote:
u must have some DIFFERENT, personal definition of "paranoia"
since u reject the classic definition.


I do not have a personal definition, you are a dishonest man who will not admit his faults.

Besides an obsession with guns, you are obsessed with what you think is deviance as well as what is classic. You are wrong on both counts.

plainoldme
 
  1  
Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2011 03:53 pm
@parados,
I think it was age 8. It doesn't matter: david is a liar.
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OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2011 04:16 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:

Quote:
I listed all the classic, well known symptoms of paranoia


You have no expertise in psychology.

Quote:
u must have some DIFFERENT, personal definition of "paranoia"
since u reject the classic definition.


I do not have a personal definition, you are a dishonest man who will not admit his faults.

Besides an obsession with guns, you are obsessed with what you think is deviance as well as what is classic. You are wrong on both counts.


Plain, you are a fool.
There is no point in convincing u that it is dark at nite,
nor that it is cold in winter.

In that I have lost ALL respect for your mind,
for your ability to reason (or to remember).
I have no interest in convincing u of anything.
I might as well talk to a barking dog, as to u.

I don't care WHAT u think about anything.





David
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2011 04:34 pm
@parados,
Another six year old; they started playing cards and/or gambling at an early age.
OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2011 05:11 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Another six year old; they started playing cards and/or gambling at an early age.
Yes; kids of different ages.
We had time on our hands.
MontereyJack
 
  5  
Reply Tue 25 Jan, 2011 05:11 pm
in today's news:
Quote:
Federal officials say they have new evidence that Mexico's most violent drug cartels are exploiting U.S. guns laws to acquire massive quantities of assault rifles and other firearms for use in their war against the Mexican government.

Think they're gonna stop with the Mexican government?
David has this fantasy of wanting an America bristling with guns. No matter how many you've got, David, the cartels are bristlier than you

David, when you get caught in the crossfire between two New York City outposts of different drug cartels (cause you know that's where they're going to be peddling a lot of their product) and you pull out your .45, causing them to turn their assault rifles on you, as you and fifty other more innocent victims lie dieing in the street, remember it was you and the NRA who turned the country from peaceable into a war zone.
 

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