Was Jesus born with Original Sin?

Was Jesus born with Original Sin?

Jesus the descendant of King David and biological son of Mary and Joseph the son of Alexander Helios III. was born of the seed of Adam.

And which Joseph are you referring too young fellow?

Joseph the son of Jacob of the tribe of Judah, through the cursed line of Jehoiachin, who had no sexual relations with the already pregnant Mary until she had given birth to Jesus, the first of her three biological sons, or Joseph the son Alexander Helios III, who was the half brother to Mary and biological father of Jesus?

No, Jesus was not born with "original sin". Nor was anyone else.

First of all, before proving that Joseph the son of Jacob and a descendant of Solomon, is not the same person as Joseph the son of Heli, who is a descendant of Nathan the half brother to Solomon, let us define "Original sin."

If you develop a new plant and later find that it is a prolific spreading noxious weed that is choking out all the other plants, how do you kill that original plant without killing all its offspring?

The original man, according to the scriptures, cannot die until all his offspring are dead, all who are of his seed, inherit his death sentence.

So the Question should be; "Is Jesus a descendant of the first human?" or was his father some eternal alien lifeform, who preceded the creation of the cosmos as taught by the Roman church of Emperor Constantine, and all her daughter denominations who were spawned from her teachings, before breaking away from their mother body to create families of their own?

And so, the question to you, is, "Is Jesus a god who became a human like being, who was not born of the seed of Adam", Or was he a human being born of the seed of Adam, and why, according to the scriptures, did death have no power over him?

Not that an agnostic such as you will be concerned with the following subject, so I write this response for others who will see the agnostics as the brainless poor souls that they are.

Frank, did you know that our best scientists believe that a singularity is a region of space-time in which matter is crushed so closely together that the gravitational laws explained by general relativity break down. In a singularity, the volume of space is zero and its density is infinite. Scientists believe such a singularity exists at the core of a black hole, which occurs when a super-massive sun reaches the end of its life and implodes.

Frank old mate, do you believe, as the best of our scientists believe? Of course not, because as the agnostic that you are, you see no reason to believe that a singularity exists, nor do you see any reason to believe that a singularity does not exist.

General relativity also demands such a singularity must exist at the beginning of an expanding universe.

Frank, do you believe that our entire universe was contained in the singularity, which was spatially separated in the event which is called the ‘Big Bang,’ when the space began to expand, in which the previous universe that was swallowed into the mouth of the great abyss, and rested as a singularity, could be resurrected to continue on in its eternal process of evolution from generation to generation?

Knowing that our scientists believe that the universal temperature at the instant of the Big Bang, was 100 million trillion, trillion kelvins, or 180 million trillion, trillion degrees Fahrenheit, and that the electromagnetic energy, which can never be created nor ever be destroyed was all that existed in the expanding space.

Frank, what do you believe that our universe was created from? Oh, that’s right, as an agnostic, you’re not into believing anything, are you?

Our scientists, who are now coming to terms with the fact that this universe which is expanding, will one day begin to retract, in fact if you had applied your mind to what is happening to our particular galactic cluster as it is being gathered to the “Great Attractor” you would have realised that the process of gathering everything back to the singularity of origin, had already began within moments after the Big Bang.

Our scientists are also concerned with answering the question, what happens to all the information that is gathered in the universe that the eternal energy has become, when it is gathered back to the singularity from which it originated.

I think that people like ‘Farmerman’ should look at the gigantic human female dormant egg in which all the characteristics, of the ancestors of the woman are stored, I say gigantic, in relation to the minute male semen cell.

As a fetus early in development, a female has around a whopping 6 million eggs. The number of these eggs (oocytes, to be precise) is steadily reduced so that when a baby girl is born, she has between 1 and 2 million eggs, whereas a healthy adult male can release between 40 million and 1.2 billion sperm cells in a single ejaculation, of which, normally only one survives giving life to certain characteristics within the female egg, sometime two, and rarely more than two.

Those eggs are dormant and lifeless, unless they are fertilized and given life by the living, swimming, determined male cells, and if not fertilized, they are simply flushed out with the next blood flow.

Perhaps when ‘Farmerman’ begins to believe the scientific evidence before him, he may shed more light on this subject for you Frankie baby.

In Ancient Egyptian religion, Ptah, was the God that called everything into existence. He was also regarded as the father of the human sage Imhotep, who was later deified and became a god.

Imhotep, was called the “God of Medicine,” “Prince of Peace,” and a “Type of Christ,” as was Melchizedek. Imhotep was worshipped as a god and healer from approximately 2850 B.C. to 525 B.C., and as a full deity from 525 B.C. to 550 A.D.

Imhotep was a known scribe, chief lector, priest, architect, astronomer and a creator of drugs and medicines from plants. For 3000 years he was worshipped as a god in Greece and Rome.

Early Christians worshipped him as the “Prince of Peace,” ‘Salem.’ A poet and philosopher, Imhotep coined the saying “Eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow we shall die.” The similarities between Imhotep and Enoch, who witnessed the universe fall as fire beyond all measure in height and depth into the ‘GREAT ABYSS’ beyond which there was nothing, of who it is said in scripture, was translated in order that he should never experience death, and who, like Imhotep, was chosen as the heir of ‘The Most High in the creation,’ and also deified and became a god: will be discussed later.

Of course, there must be an observer for the invisible energy to become that which appears as a living physical universal body, but that concept is so far beyond your capability to even begin to comprehend Frank, and it would be totally useless to introduce that subject here.

BTW Fankie, The singularity to which this universe will return, is "THE BEGINNING" not some new beginning, but "THE' beginning.

Or, Are you shitting me?

Here's something else for to to amuse yourself with, while you entertain yourself.

Einstein’s belief in an intelligent designer, is derived, not from a pre-conceived religious bias, but from the phenomenal insights into the Universe that he possessed as the most brilliant scientist who ever lived. His recognition of a creator refutes the recent claims by atheists that belief in any sort of god is unscientific.

Einstein once wrote …. “The religious inclination lies in the dim consciousness that dwells in humans that all nature, including the humans in it, is in no way an accidental game, but a work of lawfulness that there is a fundamental cause of all existence” (Ibid. 46).

Albert Einstein stated that he believed in the pantheistic God of Baruch Spinoza. He did not believe in a personal God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings, a view which he described as naïve. He clarified however that, "I am not an atheist", preferring to call himself a "religious nonbeliever." In other words, he, like so many of us, did not believe in the mystical religious rubbish as taught by the churches.

Spinozism is the monist philosophical system of Baruch Spinoza that defines "God" as a singular self-subsistent substance, with both matter and ‘THOUGHT’ being attributes of such.

Does the non-existent have the attribute of “THOUGHT”?

If you had read all of my posts, you would have seen that I believe that the eternal energy who manifests itself as this universe is no respecter of humans, for it is, all humans and all life forms, and it sends it Disasters on the wicked and righteous alike, and bestows its Blessings on the righteous and wicked alike.

It is the MOST HIGH who develops within the body of the Logos God, who is the Supreme personality of Godhead to have developed within the “LOGOS= living universal body.”

You are the supreme person of Godhead to that body in which ‘YOU the MIND=invisible Spirit, has, and continues to develop within that body, wherein the innermost sanctuary of that body, behind the veil of the flesh, dwells all the spirits of all your ancestors right back to the first life form to have developed within this earth and which has evolved to become that body in which ‘YOU THE MIND’ are evolving from all the information which is taken into the brain through the senses of that body.

If that body in which your parental spirit dwells, were born without the sense of sight, hearing, smell, taste, touch, nerve ends etc, then no information whatsoever could be taken into the brain, and “YOU” who are spirit [Gathered information] could never have begun to develop and the living body, in which the parental spirit dwells, would soon die, never having developed a personality or “CONTROLLING GODHEAD” to that body.

When the body in which you [the mind] are being formed, dies, [This is the first death] and your body of “skin, flesh, muscle, blood, bone, brain matter etc, etc,” has returned to the universal elements from which it was created, all that remains, is a shadow or rather, a facsimile of YOU, the mind or spirit, that has been imprinted into the universal life force or soul, which returns to ‘THE GREAT THOUGHT,’ [The collective consciousness of all that exists] from which it will be resurrected in this cycle, or the next cycle of universal activity.

The Son of Man, the Most High who develops within ‘THE GREAT THOUGHT’ which has manifested itself as this universal body, has access to all the information that is gathered into ‘THE GREAT THOUGHT’, just as you have access to all the information that is gathered on your internet, and HE Is my God, who mentally descends from his heights in time and speaks to us, and reveals himself to us through those He chooses.

And Stephen Hawking was not agnostic old mate, he was an atheist through and through, Professor Hawking believes that the location of the beginning of imaginary as well as normal space-time can be thought of as the South Pole. “There is nothing south of the South Pole, so there was nothing around before the Big Bang,” said Hawking. What a pity he never did stand on the South pole and look up to the heavens.

Unlike Einstein, Hawking the atheist believed in neither God or intelligent design.

At the end, Hawking denied that any god existed, and revealed himself to be an atheist, just as you are.

And all that you are going to do, is to make sure, that you continue to reveal to those, who already don't know, the ignoramus that everyone else knows you to be. That is of course except for your biblical ignorant atheist mates.

Have a good one mate.

Read this and weep.

https://www.jpost.com/Not-Just-News/Stephen-Hawkings-admits-he-is-as-an-atheist-376505

Stephen Hawking was an atheist, as every intelligent person who has every read his final book or listened to his interviews know, of course mentally unstable and senile people might find that hard to believe, but people like that are in need of serious medical attention.

And I would rather believe Steven Hawking's own words than the words of someone else.