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Just a few contradictions in your bible

 
 
Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jun, 2007 08:41 am
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;21127 wrote:
It does not apply. He was restarting the world- the inhabitants were not His, but Satans


Now you have Satan deciding for God where souls will go.
Smooth move.
As to restarting, it looks like He screwed up again that baby God.

Regards
DL
Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jun, 2007 08:48 am
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;21221 wrote:
If followers owe positional authority, then we follow God. As the first and most powerful Entity in the Universe, He has positional authority over all creation. Creation includes angels and man/woman.


Not quite.

Man gives God positional authority. God cannot or will not take it.
This way, man's free will is what makes the decision.
Perfection must be maintained.
Perfection does not include talking snakes and angels.

Regards
DL
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jun, 2007 09:39 am
@rugonnacry,
rugonnacry;21058 wrote:
No I am not a communist


I'm glad to hear that. I'll pass that on to my contacts. You're in the clear. Thanks.
rugonnacry
 
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Reply Fri 15 Jun, 2007 06:43 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;21310 wrote:
I'm glad to hear that. I'll pass that on to my contacts. You're in the clear. Thanks.



Whew dodged that bullet. rudolph the RED nosed reindeer LOL
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2007 10:56 am
@Greatest I am cv,
Greatest I am;21295 wrote:
Now you have Satan deciding for God where souls will go.
Smooth move.
As to restarting, it looks like He screwed up again that baby God.

Regards
DL


Uh, no, now I have the people of earth being drawn over to Satan easily.
Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2007 12:14 pm
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;21514 wrote:
Uh, no, now I have the people of earth being drawn over to Satan easily.


God's plan?

Regards
DL
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markx15
 
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Reply Sat 16 Jun, 2007 01:13 pm
@rugonnacry,
God's part begins once man seperates himself from the other animals, when he reaches his first sense of identity.
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Whip
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2007 01:01 am
@rugonnacry,
In answer to the original poster, there are NO contradictions in the Holy Bible. None. You posted a bunch of individual, separate, non-connected verses as your evidence. But, you did not give any thing beyond that.

Let's do this, (since it is your argument that the Bible contradicts itself), let's allow you to research all of your argument in these verses original writings, (Hebrew, Greek, etc). Show us how theologically educated you are. Post your assertions in context to what was originally written. Don't teach the masters, master the teachers.
Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2007 07:04 am
@Whip,
Whip;21610 wrote:
In answer to the original poster, there are NO contradictions in the Holy Bible. None. You posted a bunch of individual, separate, non-connected verses as your evidence. But, you did not give any thing beyond that.

Let's do this, (since it is your argument that the Bible contradicts itself), let's allow you to research all of your argument in these verses original writings, (Hebrew, Greek, etc). Show us how theologically educated you are. Post your assertions in context to what was originally written. Don't teach the masters, master the teachers.


To say that there are no contradictions in the Bible is silly.

Try though shall not kill ans do not suffer a witch to live.

Regards
DL
Volunteer
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2007 09:01 am
@Greatest I am cv,
Greatest I am;21622 wrote:
To say that there are no contradictions in the Bible is silly.

Try though shall not kill ans do not suffer a witch to live.

Regards
DL


The correct quote is, "Thou shall not murder."

Murder is killing people who are innocent.
Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2007 09:12 am
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;21633 wrote:
The correct quote is, "Thou shall not murder."

Murder is killing people who are innocent.


You have still to deal with the contradiction. Why kill witches? Are they automatically guilty of sin or crime?

Murder, kill, or create death by whatever manner produces the same result.

Please deal with the contradiction. If you can I can probably find another that we can deal with. Could be fun If I can get you away from one liners that mean little.

Regards
DL
rugonnacry
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2007 10:24 am
@Whip,
Whip;21610 wrote:
In answer to the original poster, there are NO contradictions in the Holy Bible. None. You posted a bunch of individual, separate, non-connected verses as your evidence. But, you did not give any thing beyond that.

Let's do this, (since it is your argument that the Bible contradicts itself), let's allow you to research all of your argument in these verses original writings, (Hebrew, Greek, etc). Show us how theologically educated you are. Post your assertions in context to what was originally written. Don't teach the masters, master the teachers.


Re read Contradiction number one. Both from genesis. So much for your theory there mate.
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2007 11:12 am
@Greatest I am cv,
Greatest I am;21637 wrote:
You have still to deal with the contradiction. Why kill witches? Are they automatically guilty of sin or crime?

Murder, kill, or create death by whatever manner produces the same result.

Please deal with the contradiction. If you can I can probably find another that we can deal with. Could be fun If I can get you away from one liners that mean little.

Regards
DL


You are creating the contradiction by refusing to discern between guilt and innocence.

God tells us what is right and what is wrong. We have no right to tell God He is wrong and make up our own right and wrong.

"Why kill witches? Are they automatically guilty of sin or crime?"

Read the Bible. You'll see what should be done and why. Go to:
BibleGateway.com: A searchable online Bible in over 50 versions and 35 languages. and search for terms "witchcraft" or witch or spells etc...

Look at Dt 18:10 or 11; Lv 19:26; Ac 8:9; Gl 5:20; or Rv 18:23. There are many references to this type of activity and behavior in the Bible. All Bible references condemn witchcraft and sorcery.

If you rejct the Bible as God's Word, then you reject the idea that witches do evil.

If, as you believe, men should create their own moral code, then you are faced with the same dillema. If you create your own moral code that includes witchcraft as good; then if someone else creates their own moral code in which witrchcraft is evil; who is to say their moral code is any less valid than yours?

He said, she said, I did not say that, yes you did. That kind of behavior is childish.
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2007 11:28 am
@Greatest I am cv,
Greatest I am;21637 wrote:
Murder, kill, or create death by whatever manner produces the same result.


Above is an inaccurate statement in the metaphysical sense.

Killing someone who is evil or refuses to stop doing evil sends them to eternal punishment and terminates their ability to continue to do evil here on earth. It also provides graphic proof there is a penalty for doing evil to all human observers. The metaphysical result is the person who did evil is then deprived of the ability to repent and goes straight to judgement. "Once to die and then the judgement." "Absent from the body, present with the Lord."

Something different happens when someone innocent is murdered. In this instance, the innocent is unable to continue their life to do the Lord's work, loved ones of the dead innocent may become offended by the murder and do evil to avenge the death, etc.... Thereby coming under judgement themselves. If the innocent had not heard the Gospel, accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior, and repented of their sins, then they would die in sin.

Yes, there are two standards. God's and ours. They are not and cannot be the same because we are fallen. We fell before God had a chance to teach us. The minors in the garden were corrupted. This is one reason there used to be laws on the books against corruption of the morals of minors. The law is still there, but since parts is parts, it isn't enforced.

Metaphysically, the innocent who dies, if they have accepted Christ enters His presence and is accepted into the heavenly Host. If they have not accepted Christ, they are lost. That is why God prohibits murder.
Greatest I am cv
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2007 11:39 am
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;21661 wrote:
Above is an inaccurate statement in the metaphysical sense.

Killing someone who is evil or refuses to stop doing evil sends them to eternal punishment and terminates their ability to continue to do evil here on earth. It also provides graphic proof there is a penalty for doing evil to all human observers. The metaphysical result is the person who did evil is then deprived of the ability to repent and goes straight to judgement. "Once to die and then the judgement." "Absent from the body, present with the Lord."

Something different happens when someone innocent is murdered. In this instance, the innocent is unable to continue their life to do the Lord's work, loved ones of the dead innocent may become offended by the murder and do evil to avenge the death, etc.... Thereby coming under judgement themselves. If the innocent had not heard the Gospel, accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior, and repented of their sins, then they would die in sin.

Yes, there are two standards. God's and ours. They are not and cannot be the same because we are fallen. We fell before God had a chance to teach us. The minors in the garden were corrupted. This is one reason there used to be laws on the books against corruption of the morals of minors. The law is still there, but since parts is parts, it isn't enforced.

Metaphysically, the innocent who dies, if they have accepted Christ enters His presence and is accepted into the heavenly Host. If they have not accepted Christ, they are lost. That is why God prohibits murder.


God prohibits murder but can use murder himself with impunity.
Strange law.
Keep your God, no one else would want him.
A lawmaker who breaks his own law cannot be trusted.

Regards
DL
Volunteer
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2007 12:22 pm
@Greatest I am cv,
Greatest I am;21665 wrote:
God prohibits murder but can use murder himself with impunity.
Strange law.
Keep your God, no one else would want him.
A lawmaker who breaks his own law cannot be trusted.

Regards
DL


Again, there is a difference between murder and death. You reject God because you can't understand His ways. Is that His problem or yours?

Do your sons do the same to you?
Volunteer
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2007 12:47 pm
@Greatest I am cv,
Isaiah 57:1-13, “The righteous one perishes, and no one takes it to heart; faithful men are swept away, with no one realizing that the righteous one is swept away from the presence of evil.

He will enter into peace—they will rest on their beds—everyone who lives uprightly.

But come here, you sons of a sorceress, offspring of an adulterer and a prostitute! Who is it you are mocking? Who is it you are opening your mouth and sticking out your tongue at?

Isn't it you, you rebellious children, you race of liars, who burn with lust among the oaks, under every flourishing tree, who slaughter children in the wadis below the clefts of the rocks?

Your portion is among the smooth [stones] of the wadi; indeed, they are your lot. You have even poured out a drink offering to them; you have offered a grain offering; should I be satisfied with these?

You have placed your bed on a high and lofty mountain; you also went up there to offer sacrifice.

You have set up your memorial behind the door and doorpost. For away from Me, you stripped, went up, and made your bed wide, and you have made a bargain for yourself with them. You have loved their bed; you have gazed on their genitals.

You went to the king with oil and multiplied your perfumes; you sent your envoys far away and sent [them] down even to Sheol.

You became weary on your many journeys, [but] you did not say, "I give up!" You found a renewal of your strength; therefore you did not grow weak.

Who was it you dreaded and feared, so that you lied and didn't remember Me or take it to heart? Have I not kept silent for such a long time and you do not fear Me?

I will expose your righteousness, and your works—they will not profit you.

When you cry out, let your collection [of idols] deliver you! The wind will carry all of them off, a breath will take them away.

But whoever takes refuge in Me will inherit the land and possess My holy mountain."
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markx15
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2007 05:47 pm
@rugonnacry,
Quote:
God prohibits murder but can use murder himself with impunity.
Strange law.
Keep your God, no one else would want him.
A lawmaker who breaks his own law cannot be trusted.


The Lord Giveth and the Lord Taketh Away.
Volunteer
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2007 06:45 pm
@markx15,
markx15;21697 wrote:
The Lord Giveth and the Lord Taketh Away.


Very philosphical.
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briansol
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2007 01:03 am
@rugonnacry,
The Bible is nothing more than a bunch of stories put together to teach a moral lesson.


In all actuality, without the whole "God" thing behind it, the bible is really nothing more than a different version of Aesop's fables, or a typical 30min sit-com where someone screws up, and at the end of the 1/2 hour, a lesson is learned.
 

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