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Why Does A Manipulative Lying over 45 yr old Man Waste Almost 4 yrs, With A Decent Woman

 
 
chai2
 
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Tue 18 Nov, 2014 07:39 pm
@CalamityJane,
When I first moved to Austin in 1991, there was an already old 1 screen movie theather on S. Congress Ave that showed skin flix.

It's been bought and sold a few times to different software/tech companies. But, they always kept the marquee on the front of the building, putting in their own messages.

Wally would laugh and say back in the day that was the only way old codgers could get away from the wives for an hour or two.

I pass by it almost every day, and I still think of it as "the dirty movie house"


Here's a picture of it on the last day of the Mayan calendar....

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/12/22/article-2252051-169AED17000005DC-51_634x420.jpg
CalamityJane
 
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Tue 18 Nov, 2014 07:52 pm
@chai2,
Oh, that's so funny! I love the message too!!
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knowledgeispower123
 
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Tue 18 Nov, 2014 08:46 pm
@ehBeth,
I was VERY specific in my original post that is was quite a few of those naked sex hookup sites behind my back. I wish people would read the WHOLE post, and not just see the word PORN, and freak out trying to defend a persons right to view porn as much as they want, and how unnatural it would be to try to stop a mans need for hardcore pornagraghic material. The word hardcore was added, so as not to confuse with a female in a bikini, etc




knowledgeispower123
 
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Tue 18 Nov, 2014 08:51 pm
I was VERY specific in my original post that is was quite a few of those naked sex hookup sites behind my back. I wish people would read the WHOLE post, and not just see the word PORN, and freak out trying to defend a persons right to view porn as much as they want, and how unnatural it would be to try to stop a mans need for hardcore pornagraghic material. The word hardcore was added, so as not to confuse with a female in a bikini, etc
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knowledgeispower123
 
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Tue 18 Nov, 2014 09:34 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
I agree with some, and think some is exagerated, seeing as sexually explicit dating/sex sites, is most definately a different type of porn, as the viewer, can and often does interact in messaging these females. Someone else mentioned, that my story changes, not so... Adult sites seeking sex/one night stands are listed as dating sites. I have a healthy self esteem, I don't deserve to be disrespected with lies, and a man in my life who feels it's ok to flirt with easy women.

However at least you gave it alot of thought
knowledgeispower123
 
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Tue 18 Nov, 2014 10:20 pm
@hawkeye10,
You put my statement "I said a man who manipulates by lies, is not a real man.", and you disagree with that? So do you use pretty lies, to try to control any woman you are dating? SEX is a male NEED, PORN is not. If you were on a deserted island, you would not run around looking to fulfill your porn need, on the off chance you could find some. No, you would search for food, water, shelter, and then relax with some self sexual gratification.

You mean nothing to me, and I have enough self esteem and respect for myself, that you calling me a controlling insecure bitch, bothers me not one iota.

Also I'm sure your way to arrogant, to even give a thought, that your a scared boy who uses lies to manipulate and control the people in your life... Because losing control, is a huge fear for you.
maxdancona
 
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Tue 18 Nov, 2014 10:23 pm
@knowledgeispower123,
I was going to suggest that you dump this poor guy. But as I keep reading your nasty posts, I am changing my mind.

Now I think you should definitely stay with this man.... because that way there will only be two miserable people instead of four.
CalamityJane
 
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Tue 18 Nov, 2014 10:31 pm
@maxdancona,
How do you arrive at 4 people, max?
maxdancona
 
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Tue 18 Nov, 2014 10:38 pm
@CalamityJane,
Do I have to explain the joke? (If she breaks up with this guy... they will each get a new partner making 4 miserable people).
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knowledgeispower123
 
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Tue 18 Nov, 2014 10:53 pm
@maxdancona,
I'm receiving nastiness, and will respond honestly, and how I see fit.

You have a right to your opinion though.

This post will only be up for day more anyways.
izzythepush
 
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Wed 19 Nov, 2014 03:05 am
@chai2,
chai2 wrote:

I guess "naked sex hookup sites" are the same as dating sites, in the OP's mind.

I kinda like that "naked sex hookup sites" I guess that's as opposed to "hole in the sheet sex hookup sites".


Kinda like a naked sex version of this.
http://www.pjentertainments.co.uk/new_images/hook_a_duck_stall_inside2.jpg

What's it with naked sex? It's not just sex, it's naked sex.

Reading the Op's posts tells me there's a lot of things that are far worse than being single.
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JPB
 
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Wed 19 Nov, 2014 06:55 am
@hawkeye10,
Am I the only one who finds it funny that the OP chose this answer as the "Selected Answer" to her question?
engineer
 
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Wed 19 Nov, 2014 07:02 am
@JPB,
You beat me to the punch.
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parados
 
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Wed 19 Nov, 2014 09:00 am
@knowledgeispower123,
Quote:
He's decided to leave, because I'm angry, and have trust issues with him. To start rebuilding trust, I've asked for computer and email passwords. He decided his privacy is more important then the relationship, and I refuse to be in a relationship where trust is so fragmented.

Would you stay with someone so controlling that they insisted they could control your personal life and not let you have any secrets?

Trust is a 2 way street. Why should he trust someone so willing to invade his life? Did you give him all your passwords? Do you want him to spend every day looking at every thing you have done that day?
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parados
 
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Wed 19 Nov, 2014 09:05 am
@knowledgeispower123,
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Do you guys go on those naked sex hookup sites and flirt with emails, while either married or in a committed relationship?

A sex hookup site is different from porn. Porn is a fantasy that won't be fulfilled in real life. Hooking up for sex or attempting to hook up for sex is something completely different from porn.

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And I told my soon to be ex, that lying and blatant porn was not anything I wanted, in my next relationship, after dating a few weeks

All I see is someone that wants to completely control the thoughts and actions of the person they are with. No one is perfect. Expecting anyone to be perfect is unreasonable. I understand at this point you are mad but you are coming off as controlling.
chai2
 
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Wed 19 Nov, 2014 09:22 am
@knowledgeispower123,
knowledgeispower123 wrote:



This post will only be up for day more anyways.



Wanna bet?
FOUND SOUL
 
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Wed 19 Nov, 2014 02:44 pm
@chai2,
Smile

Can't even count how many times I've received PM's elsewhere " how to I delete my thread?"
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FOUND SOUL
 
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Wed 19 Nov, 2014 02:59 pm
@knowledgeispower123,
Just going back to this :-

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Men a question? If you and the new woman you were dating had a conversation about pornagraphy being a issue in your lady's past 15 yr marriage. Would you lie, and tell her you never had interest in porn, then 2 yrs in the relationship, go on quite a few of those naked sex hookup sites behind her back? Twice, 3 mos apart. And how many of you when you were caught, would have the gall to say you didn't know anything else to do, to decide if you really wanted to marry your lady.


Ok. So here is the thing. He didn't lie actually. He didn't watch porn your ex-husband did and you did google all about it otherwise, you would not know that it can be a huge addiction for someone... nor join as knowledgeispower.

He did not lie because you chose someone "worse". A cheater not a lier. He was trying or did score other women, either via webcam or in real life, text messages or emails... He wanted the real touch to it, not like your ex-husband just viewing. And, he was caught because you snooped.

Now here is the thing. This guy has a high sex drive, likes variety, perhaps even slutty. So he comments to you " I didn't know what else to do, I was trying to ascertain if you were marriage material or not sexually".

Mis-match sexually? Sounds that way to me. But, from what you originally wrote it's clear to me anyway that he didn't lie. Porn and Sex dating hook up sites are two different things.

My fiancé watched Porn. I found it accidentally as I used his laptop to go onto my Forums and went to History as I forgot my password for a business site for work that's what I do, play and work, work and play. My only concern was his 11 year old daughter comes over every couple of weeks she's 17 now. That she may see it.. With that he promptly deleted the history and ensured it never to be seen again. I found it interesting as he looked at all sorts of women, different colour, size .. He separated from his wife at that time and spent 9 months living in the same house because of his daughter, not wanting to leave her. He can look at it if he wants but he hasn't now in years.

People have told you of their own stories of knowing their man has or does watch Porn. I've even had a wee look myself on occasions out of curiosity mainly because of the amount of threads I read, where women felt so belittled trying to work out why. Came apparent to me that it was in-security. In my opinion if you love yourself and own yourself and know you are important (which you keep harping on), then you aren't in-secure and you can easily put it down to "assistance" in the bedroom, "curiosity" the desire to stay with one woman the one you are with but not exactly give up all those good times you had as a teenager, early 20's guy "if that was your thing". But, nothing against the woman you are with, unless as everyone has told you, you are neglected sexually, intimately, be-littled and asked to do things you are not comfortable with.

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I have a healthy self esteem, I don't deserve to be disrespected with lies, and a man in my life who feels it's ok to flirt with easy women.



You know? Some of those women got sick and tied of being used and decided to use. Some, had low self esteem to the hilt and didn't feel worthy. Some had the hell approach I love sex and interacting and give a ****. Some like the money involved, be it finding a sugar daddy to pay or paid sites. Calling them easy suggests that you don't have respect for women and their choices in life.

I think you may find that your way of thinking is anger at yourself, after all if you have a healthy esteem are sexy ended up with two partners that wanted more women in their lives, one way or another, you've either made really bad decisions of whom to go out with, or aren't giving them enough to make them want to respect your wishes. In my opinion.
knowledgeispower123
 
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Wed 19 Nov, 2014 05:27 pm
@parados,
I really didn't analyze every aspect of my original post, as this is my first one, and I had no idea what to expect. I lump exhibitionist nudity, paid fake, scripted, unrealistic sex movies, gross hardcore, child, animal, fetish images and movies, and looking for sex sites, as porn. Some of those things, even you liberal minded people may see as offensive and over the line, especially just pictures of naked children. Completely unacceptable. However, alot of you ladies, don't care what your man does, and if he looks at pics of naked children, or young naked females who look 12 yrs old, well heck, ignorance is bliss!

I have no desire to completely control the thoughts and actions of the person I'm with.

Also expecting anyone to be perfect, is not something that goes with being an imperfect Christain bible fundamentalist. Just because I have self esteem, and self respect, doesn't mean I consider myself in any way near perfect.

A part of following our Lord Jesus, is choosing to resist temptations of the world. In these days of easy sexual depravity, where it can easily be kept secret, I may have way too high of expectations, of weak men, to refrain, of their own free will.

He led me to believe, he was more than capable, to chose the right path, in this, for himself. In the beginning, he chose to not have a computer or emails, passwords. He said he had nothing to hide from me.

One thing I didn't know til later in our relationship, is that he used to take meds for HADD. He feels he outgrew it, and doesn't need meds now, yet exibits quite a few of the signs for adult HADD.

Also he didn't admit anything to me, once he started getting super secretive. I did find out myself.


knowledgeispower123
 
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Wed 19 Nov, 2014 06:21 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
I am somewhat angry at myself, for choosing poorly.

No one wants to feel nearly 4 yrs is wasted, being lied to, and manipulated.

I have every right to want the kind of relationship I want, free from lies, secrecy, and sexual depravity. Just like every woman has the right to post naked pics or having sex, on the internet. They also have the right to kill their unborn baby. I can believe in the constitution, yet have no personal respect for their choices. Respect is earned like trust is, not to be given freely.

You have the right to feel he didn't lie, however I disagree.

 

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