Why Does A Manipulative Lying over 45 yr old Man Waste Almost 4 yrs, With A Decent Woman

@izzythepush,

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comment was to talk about your computer security. That if your laptop was confiscated they wouldn't be able to find anything.

I talk about computer security on many threads including the ones dealing with the NSA and Snowden for example and it does indeed amazes me that the government is crying over the need for back doors in computer encrypted programs due to child porn and terrorism when almost no one that have at least child porn on their computers have been found to have their computer encrypted.

Even a research engineer that should know enough to do so if he is carrying such materials around with him.

So my point in that thread is the government [US] is crying wolf as far as the concerns that encrypted software is going to stop child porn investigations.

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To sum up I have no problem with any other western nations laws and degree of punishments for the crime of having such sick material except for the US who have gone overboard and that opinion by polls is shared with the majority of setting US Federal judges.

So I assume Izzy that you would claim that most Federal judges are supporters of child porn users as the same logic you are using toward me would apply to them.

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When most people read a thread about someone being caught watching child pornography on a plane their first response isn't , 'I'm glad I've got really good computer security.' Yours was.

As for your nonsense about logic and judges, don't expect me to stroll up one of your weird mental cul de sacs. Your logic, like your English, ain't quite right.

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@izzythepush,

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When most people read a thread about someone being caught watching child pornography on a plane their first response isn't , 'I'm glad I've got really good computer security.' Yours was.

Sorry not true as your statements does tend not to be true as I did indeed address the computer security issues concerning his actions or lack of same but that is not the same as expressing happiness over my computer security situation in relationship to CP as I happen to not have such material on my computers and never had such material on my computers.

Now a Harvard student used the TOR network to transmit a bomb threat and make a numbers of errors that allowed the FBI to track him down.

A great many people including myself pointed out what he did wrong but that does not mean that we are are into sending bomb threats over the TOR network or support the sending of such bomb threats.

I know you are not too bright but most readers of this thread should understand the above point.

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@BillRM,

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@BillRM,

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But there is little finance gains from child porn itself as most are gotten for free over p2p networks and similar means.

How would you know? I don't know that, I'm betting a lot of people don't know that, that being "most are free".

I get the opinion that to you, child porn is ok, raping a child is not... You might as well rape the child because in my eyes you are, what does a child know about sex, what should she know about sex, absolutely nothing, she's a child.

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@FOUND SOUL,

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How would you know? I don't know that, I'm betting a lot of people don't know that, that being "most are free".

And that is a problem. When the government says that so and so raped or has child porn the knee jerk response from most is "hit him!' and "hit him harder!". The fact that the state attaches some of its harshest penalties to vague allegations should perk our ears up. We should all learn a little something about the nature of sex crime and punishment in our society and stop blindly accepting the storys the government tells.

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@FOUND SOUL,

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How would you know? I don't know that, I'm betting a lot of people don't know that, that being "most are free".

So having knowledge of a subject is somehow wrong or some indication that the person with the knowledge is into breaking the laws and having child porn himself or herself in this case?

I happen also to have some understanding of what is needed to build a IED that does not mean that I am into building bombs however.

I guess it is your position that in order to be look upon as a law abiding citizen you need to be ignorance of any illegal activities, in fact just ignorance in general would be even better?

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@hawkeye10,

Hawkeye if you dare to have enough information to challenge what the government and government approved groups are putting out then you must be an evil doer it would seems.

Talk about the concept of forbidden knowledge getting a rebirth.

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@BillRM,

See, here is the thing.

We seek what we like, what interests us in life and we ignore and don't bother on those things that don't.

Anything fancy you there Bill? Child Porn, Bombs, Kittens.... And?

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@FOUND SOUL,

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See, here is the thing.

We seek what we like, what interests us in life and we ignore and don't bother on those things that don't.

Here is another thing....we tend to try to protect ourselves from perceived threats. Maybe you have heard about our NSA, a huge agency that seeks to capture and sift every bit of our communications so that they can keep an eye on us, yet our debit/credit cards are some of the most unsafe in the world and China can take down our electric grid in heartbeat because it has gone digital but is not protected. This government ignores actual proven threats and instead spends enormous time and money spying on its own citizens looking for threats (they claim).

That is where America is in 2014. I'd say Bill is ahead of the game in so far as figuring out what is important, where the threat to his being resides.

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@hawkeye10,

So, you feel that it's "ok" if the Government finds child porn on someone's computer and slaps a spell in jail as well as record them on file, is wrong. One would imagine that if it was one page, that wouldn't be the case, that it would be a vast amount found... Kids should be safe. That's why they are kids and we are Adults meant to protect. As for rape, yes, there have been cases where men have been wrongly accused and I don't believe anyone should be jailed unless beyond a reasonable doubt.

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@hawkeye10,

So your claim here is that Bill views Child Porn and Bombs on the Internet to try to work out how to hide, those said thing from the NSA should ever his Computer be seized to establish if he can beat the NSA Smile

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@FOUND SOUL,

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We seek what we like, what interests us in life and we ignore and don't bother on those things that don't.

Oh? How interesting as one of mymany interests happen to be computer and network security and I do indeed find subjects that impact that area of knowledge interesting from the Snowden papers, the NSA, the TOR network and the lawful and the unlawful used of the internet such as Child Porn sharing over the net.

Sad to think that people like you would wish to limit knowledge and the sharing of knowledge unless you happen to be part of a government approve group.

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@FOUND SOUL,

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Kids should be safe.

nice theoretical ideal, but it cant happen in the real world. And when pursuing this unobtainable goal is used as an excuse to void the Constitution and to stop attempting to obtain justice (which is in fact not determined by what the ones we call victims want) then I object.

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@BillRM,

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We seek what we like, what interests us in life and we ignore and don't bother on those things that don't.

See above.

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as one of my many interests happen to be computer and network security and I do indeed find subjects that impact that area of knowledge interesting from the Snowden papers, the NSA, the TOR network and the lawful and the unlawful used of the internet such as Child Porn sharing over the net.

Where in fact what you are doing is un-lawful. You are viewing Child Porn supposedly to ascertain what type of security you can come up with on your Computer that beats the NSA should they ever seize your computer.... .

Tell me Bill, why the fascination to break the law? And, how do you feel when you actually site such things, young children, frightened, being told to do horrendous things that kids shouldn't even know about to an Adult...

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@hawkeye10,

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Kids should be safe.

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nice theoretical ideal

It's up to the Adults in this World to make that happen. Not being biblical at all, but the bottom line, is there is Good and there is Evil so it will never happen.

Off course those that object to Child Porn are going to pursue, seek and find and then do something about it...

And, on the other coin... Those that don't object are going to pursue, seek, find and hide it.

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@FOUND SOUL,

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Where in fact what you are doing is un-lawful. You are viewing Child Porn supposedly to ascertain what type of security you can come up with on your Computer that beats the NSA should they ever seize your computer....

I am viewing child porn that news to me.........Where did you come up with that silly idea?

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Tell me Bill, why the fascination to break the law? And, how do you feel when you actually site such things, young children, frightened, being told to do horrendous things that kids shouldn't even know about to an Adult...

What fascination with breaking the law? Sorry but the only porn I have ever have searched out is legal adult heterosexual sex.

Might or might not be some copyright issues but that the extend of my perhaps breaking the law is concern.

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@BillRM,

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But there is little finance gains from child porn itself as most are gotten for free over p2p networks and similar means

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So having knowledge of a subject is somehow wrong or some indication that the person with the knowledge is into breaking the laws and having child porn himself or herself in this case?

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@FOUND SOUL,

Yes and how does any of that posting imply that I have ever downloaded child porn???????

I had seen a large number files who labels claimed to contain child porn being offer on p2p networks and who I assume is likely to contain such material however I do not and never have downloaded any such files.

Also news stories on the subject often state that a bad actor have gotten his or her child porn sometime amounting to thousands of files over such networks.

Sorry you do not need to be a criminal of any kind to know that for the most part child porn is freely offer over p2p networks among many other types of files.

All you need is to understand p2p networks and read news stories.

PS p2p networks in and of themselves are not illegal in any way any more then cars happen to be because every now and then someone will used a car to escape from the police.

Perhaps I should not give you such level of information as by your logic anyone with knowledge of an illegal subject must be guilt of being a criminal and I would not wish you to need to label yourself a criminal.

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