Straight Pride

You are being deliberately obtuse and I suppose you also think you are being amusing.

I've already explained that the offense to be taken by your use of obscenities in referring to God, is by believers, but you got that the first time.

I also didn't come to anyone's defense in this thread, and I wasn't offended by your obscenities. I was merely pointing out that, although your blasphemy didn't bother me (How could it? I engage in it in semi-private all the time when I'm mad) it could offend a believer (and we have a number of them in this forum) as easily as the Straight Pride declaration might offend homosexuals. It just seems to me that people who are easily offended would be that much more sensitive to saying something that might offend others. I guess, though that you have to have some modicum of respect for the people who might be offended.

I'm sorry if your feelings were hurt that I didn't come to your defense when Wilso called you "fuckwit", but I didn't notice it. I have to admit, though,that if I had, I still wouldn't have said anything. You're a big boy max, you can take care of yourself.

BTW, I like "fuckwit." I may use that sometime in the future as a change from "fucknut"

Not everyone is a believer in the sense Frank means but I suppose we must humor him.

Define your use of 'hostile' as it pertains to my post.

I meant we must humor that post and the ones like it, because it never yields. If that is hostility, I can't change anything to make it better. Every time you insist on that take, I consider it as an attack on people who see things the way I do. I mostly skip over, but feel the need to respond occasionally, to keep it in perspective. I know you are only posting your belief. And, as you have that right, I feel a need to put in my on occasion, to mark my own right.

Frank Apisa asked: What is the difference in "belief"...if the "belief" is that a GOD exists...or the "belief" is that there are no gods?
Are they not both "beliefs?'

How can you have a belief where nothing exists to believe about? It has always seemed to me that people simply want to put the atheist in a box called belief, or faith, because they can't handle the fact that atheists are the ones who don't do believing. Hence, the clever wording, "If you are an atheist it means you believe -" No. It means I don't believe.

Edgar, you are playing silly word games. You are stating that "not believing in God" is a different thing that "believing there is no God". I don't really get the difference.

But you fail to answer the ultimate question which is.... 'So what'?