At least 20+ dead students in Virginia Tech; shooter dead

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England has made its people powerless by banning guns.

On the contrary, England has made its most vulnerable people feel safer by banning guns.

It's only the gun nuts who seek to conflate the two.

cerealkiller, are you reading squinny's last post? Far more people
are killed through guns.

Gun control or not, there are enough guns on the black market, where if someone really wants one(in the US, England, or anywhere in the world), they can get one. Someone sick enough to shoot & kill 30 people is going to find a way to do it regardless....people can make bombs too, you know.

Either way, this incident is nuts. I can't imagine being a student on the campus who even had to live through it.

This is the reason that most of the time I only vote for candidates supported by the NRA.

I hate to say it- but I think the violence is due to more than the availability of guns (although I think banning them would be a start).

I know fear and protectiveness and defensiveness were ingrained in me as a woman in America. I didn't know how much a part of me it was, until I moved somewhere and realized I didn't need to be afraid anymore. But I know once I go back, it'll come right back. What a sad statement to make about one's own home country.

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This is the reason that most of the time I only vote for candidates supported by the NRA.

Unbelievable, you're really serious? What if in every other way that person was completely unqualified, would you still vote for him/her if that person was only the person supported by the NRA?

Nevermind, revel.
I started responding to that drivel, but it's not worth the time or the effort.

aidan wrote:

I hate to say it- but I think the violence is due to more than the availability of guns (although I think banning them would be a start).

Destroying American freedom would be more of a finish -- for America.

aidan wrote:

I know fear and protectiveness and defensiveness were ingrained in me as a woman in America. I didn't know how much a part of me it was, until I moved somewhere and realized I didn't need to be afraid anymore. But I know once I go back, it'll come right back. What a sad statement to make about one's own home country.

Don't think you really have to be afraid here either.

You're way of thinking is wrong. Had we gun control, the shooter, a Bosnian immigrant, would not have been able to have a gun in the first place - thus no shoot-out, no lives would have been lost.

cerealkiller, there is no justification to carry a gun around with you, period.

oralloy wrote:

aidan wrote:

I know fear and protectiveness and defensiveness were ingrained in me as a woman in America. I didn't know how much a part of me it was, until I moved somewhere and realized I didn't need to be afraid anymore. But I know once I go back, it'll come right back. What a sad statement to make about one's own home country.

Don't think you really have to be afraid here either.

She would if some here who are advocating having people with gun permits carry guns on government property so if some crazy guy/girl start shootin, a bunch of crazy guys/girls can start shootin back.

CalamityJane wrote:

cerealkiller, there is no justification to carry a gun around with you, period.

Americans don't need to have justification.

As far as I can tell, the gunman did the first shooting, then there was a lockdown; then it was temporarily lifted and he turned up someplace else and did the second shooting.

Not clear on that yet either, though.

I'm glad your cousin is fine, _Heatwave_.

oralloy wrote:

CalamityJane wrote:

cerealkiller, there is no justification to carry a gun around with you, period.

Americans don't need to have justification.

and yet they wonder why most of the world considers them arrogant bastards

Do they pause and put themselves in these poor kids' and their families' shoes, at all?