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baseball MVP & CY YOUNG: who do you like?

 
 
Reply Mon 12 Sep, 2005 09:24 pm

i like david "big papi" ortiz over a-rod in the AL.

albert pujols over andruw jones by a nose in the NL...
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Linkat
 
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Reply Tue 13 Sep, 2005 10:59 am
I can't argue - I love Papi. He has been my favorite since he came to the Red Sox.

There is not one thing about Papi not to love.
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El-Diablo
 
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Reply Tue 13 Sep, 2005 02:56 pm
i say its Posednik
and the Pujols
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El-Diablo
 
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Reply Fri 16 Sep, 2005 05:56 pm
Screw posednik the sox are about to lose the division title to my Indians (definately wasn't expecting that back in may lol).

I'lll make it the Papi although I hate the red sox.
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CarbonSystem
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2005 03:20 pm
Gotta love Papi, and the Sox. They're a team that all teams should look at and say, "we need to be like that"
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2005 04:35 pm
Ortiz.

Anyone that says he doesn't deserve it because he's a DH should be slapped in the mouth. Some of these writers are tools. If a pitcher can be an MVP, than a DH most certaintly can.

By the way, GayRod is #2 in the league for errors by a third baseman(or this is what I heard from a caller on the radio).
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gustavratzenhofer
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2005 05:21 pm
Ortiz would be deserving, I suppose, but I still would cast my vote for Shigetoshi Hasegawa.

I just think he has a really cool-sounding name.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Sat 17 Sep, 2005 05:40 pm
Quote:
GayRod is #2 in the league for errors by a third baseman

according to SI.com, he's tied for 16th...
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El-Diablo
 
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Reply Fri 23 Sep, 2005 01:58 pm
Hey check it out...

Travis Hafner (from my Indians) for MVP.

He beats Big Papi.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Fri 23 Sep, 2005 04:22 pm

ok, lets look at the all-important tale of the tape...

ortiz
.300 avg
149 games
563 at bats
114 runs
169 hits
38 doubles
1 triple
46 homers
140 rbi's
94 walks
112 k's
.396 obp
.616 slug %


hafner
.308 avg
128 games
451 at bats
89 runs
139 hits
39 doubles
0 triples
31 homers
104 rbi's
75 walks
112 k's
.414 obp
.601 slug %


no contest, bro!
(yeah, i'm biased...)
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El-Diablo
 
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Reply Sat 24 Sep, 2005 01:32 pm
Lol I know big Papi has all the stats over Hafner. But it's Most Valuable Player, not necessarily who has the best stats.

Check out this article about it
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2168811
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Slappy Doo Hoo
 
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Reply Sat 24 Sep, 2005 01:36 pm
Not all about stats. Ortiz has hit a lot of game winning home runs, and at least 17 have been after the seventh inning. Their record wouldn't be near the same without him.
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El-Diablo
 
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Reply Sat 24 Sep, 2005 01:39 pm
Quote:
Their record wouldn't be near the same without him.


I jsut looked at the standings and I'm scared. Since when the hell have the YANKEES been in first place...

Darn you Red Sox can't even keep them Yankees out of October. Cleveland has done its job of securing the Wild Card the least y'all could do is win the division.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Sat 24 Sep, 2005 03:40 pm
the sawx are lulling them damn yankees into a false sense of security...
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Pantalones
 
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Reply Sun 25 Sep, 2005 02:16 am
MVP

AL - I'm thinking Ortiz because he is 'the man' on baseball right now and those 140 rbis will surely help his cause.

NL - Pujols, although being Pujols I know he could've done a little better.

Cy Young

AL - Colon, if the LAA don't make the playoffs I say Santana
NL - Willis, just becuase I have to say someone.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Sun 25 Sep, 2005 03:27 pm
JoeFX, good idea to include pitching.
i've edited the title of the thread accordingly...

if they don't go with an AL reliever (rivera & wickman have been locked in all year), colon should take the CY.

carpenter has the edge over willis in the NL...
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2005 07:10 pm
MVP:

AL: David Ortiz

Now, if the Cleveland Indians make it to the postseason, I would vote for Victor Martinez.
If you look at the development of the season, when Victor's bat was weak, the Indians sucked; he woke up, and was key to carry his team into contention.

NL: Andruw Jones

Cy Young:

NL: Chris Carpenter
Dontrelle Willis (my preseason favorite) will get 2nd place in votes.
Roger Everlasting Clemens, 3rd place

AL: Bartolo Colón
Mark Buehrle
Mariano Rivera (but they won't vote for a closer)

Santana had a sub-par season.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2005 07:17 pm
Andruw's low batting average will cost him too many votes...
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fbaezer
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2005 07:21 pm
Yeah, poor chap, he only leads handily in HRs and RBIs.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2005 07:25 pm
if derek lee's average was still up in the .370 range, he'd prolly get more votes (despite the cubs' mediocre season)...
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