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Do Warner Bros. and Disney still dominate the TV toon market like they did in the late 20th century?

 
 
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 26 Jul, 2020 08:33 am
I know the Bugs Bunny short Izz is referring to - there's a short in which he's fighting a hunter who was a racist African American caricature. They aren't going to showcase that one. There were other racist Bugs Bunny shorts that were made they probably aren't going to showcase either.
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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 26 Jul, 2020 08:39 am
@Rebelofnj,
That's what I was referring to - the Censored Eleven.
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Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Sun 26 Jul, 2020 09:18 am
@JGoldman10,
I cannot remember seeing, nor can I find, any major new media outlets (CNN, New York Times, Fox News, etc) talking about Waluigi at all. They talked more about Mass Effect for its brief sexual content, and Grand Theft Auto for its violent content, but nothing about Waluigi.

At best, I saw the usual gaming sites (Kotaku, IGN, etc) talking about Waluigi in regards to his exclusion from Super Smash Bros Ultimate.
And those sites usually talk about the other Smash Bros characters more in depth in regards to their own franchises (Super Mario Odyssey, Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, Animal Crossing: New Horizons, etc)
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Sun 26 Jul, 2020 11:18 am
@Rebelofnj,
I might have been exaggerating. I don't know if Waluigi was ever talked about in the news. I know newspaper and magazine articles and a number of online articles were written about him.

I don't know why they say "exclusion", he's in SSBU as an assist trophy.
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Sun 26 Jul, 2020 12:12 pm
@JGoldman10,
Exclusion meaning he is not a playable character on the roster.
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Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Sun 26 Jul, 2020 12:21 pm
@JGoldman10,
On a related note, Disney's Frozen had numerous articles from major news outlets.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/01/06/why-little-girls-are-so-completely-obsessed-with-frozen/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/she-the-people/wp/2014/05/13/what-disneys-frozen-teach-us-about-mental-illness/

https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/25/health/frozen-let-it-go/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/15/entertainment/elsa-gay-frozen-trnd/index.html

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2019-11-21/frozen-2-big-at-box-office-but-can-it-top-the-first

https://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/movies/sc-ent-frozen-2-adult-themes-1211-20191203-qwxipmoirnd4divorbst5aqibi-story.html

So when you said you saw newspaper articles about Waluigi, I was expecting articles such as these.
JGoldman10
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jul, 2020 12:07 am
@Rebelofnj,
You wanted newspaper articles. Here are a few I could find:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2018/06/12/waluigi-was-robbed-and-humiliated-by-nintendo-and-his-fans-are-furious/%3foutputType=amp
https://thewhitonline.com/2019/11/arts-entertainment/waluigi-wins-mario-kart-8-tournament-hosted-by-scca/
https://heritagemsnewspaper.weebly.com/home/why-nintendo-cant-ley-waluigi-into-smash

Do they have to be newspaper articles? Here's one from a major magazine:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.esquire.com/lifestyle/amp21087741/waluigi-mario-tennis-aces/
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jul, 2020 03:15 am
@JGoldman10,
The Washington Post link does confirm what I said earlier, in that more people were talking about Waluigi online when he was not added to the roster of Super Smash Bros Ultimate.
https://able2know.org/topic/530541-17#post-7028554

The Washington Post and Esquire also confirm what I said about Waluigi not having any backstory, though the fans see that as an advantage.
https://able2know.org/topic/530541-6#post-7005684
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jul, 2020 06:56 am
According to a HBO MAX press release, Friends is the most watched show on the service, followed by MAX original show Love Life.

They also mention that the new animated shows Looney Tunes Cartoons and Close Enough are in the top 25 most watched shows.

https://pressroom.warnermediagroup.com/us/media-release/what-pairs-well-little-friends-some-love-life
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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jul, 2020 07:05 am
@Rebelofnj,
No backstory? I read somewhere that Waluigi had a similar backstory as Wario. Wario became an antihero because Mario bullied him when they were kids.

Luigi bullied Waluigi when they were kids which is why Waluigi became an antihero.
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JGoldman10
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jul, 2020 07:07 am
@Rebelofnj,
The fact that Waluigi had appearred in dozens of internet memes is another reason why I thought the character was very popular.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jul, 2020 07:10 am
@JGoldman10,
Most people are unaware of his existence, like most people have heard of Agatha Christie.
Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jul, 2020 07:13 am
@JGoldman10,
Even then, I don't see that many memes with Waluigi.

I mainly see memes from the 1960s Spider-Man cartoon. Those were popular enough to get a mention in the official animated film Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse.


I have also seen plenty of memes from the Star Wars Prequel trilogy. Those have become so prevalent that they have been changing the public opinion of the Prequels, from bad to good.
https://www.indiewire.com/2017/04/prequel-memes-star-wars-1201807973/
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Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jul, 2020 09:30 am
@izzythepush,
Curiously, I checked Google Trends on who was popular (or at least most searched) worldwide since 2004.

Overwhelmingly and obviously, Agatha Christie is more popular worldwide than Waluigi.

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=Waluigi,Agatha%20Christie

izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jul, 2020 09:36 am
@Rebelofnj,
I know, it’s Mr Goldman’s reasoning, he hasn’t heard of Agatha Christie because he’s American.

Yes, that’s why.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jul, 2020 09:55 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

I know, it’s Mr Goldman’s reasoning, he hasn’t heard of Agatha Christie because he’s American.

Yes, that’s why.

Agatha Christie is one of the best selling authors of all time. Two of the biggest budget adaptations of her work (one yet to be released) are in the current cultural zeitgeist. Goldman's nationality as American isn't the reason for his cultural understanding. It's his religious isolationism and his sentimentality fetish that keeps him intentionally undereducated and culturally out of the loop.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jul, 2020 09:59 am
@tsarstepan,
I know, I was being ironic.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jul, 2020 10:01 am
@izzythepush,
Fair enough. Smile
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Rebelofnj
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jul, 2020 10:05 am
@izzythepush,
I agree. JG has a very warped perspective on what's popular.

What's even weird is that he is apparently a fan of Waluigi, a character created by a Japanese based studio.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 28 Jul, 2020 10:12 am
@Rebelofnj,
Every now and again he throws a curve ball that just knocks you out. Either it’s some weird interest or knowledge, ignorance of the commonplace, religious outbursts or a strange juxtaposition of all three.
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