@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
There's no such thing as a self-hating Jew. Or perhaps: every Jew is a self-hating Jew, in the sense that they all struggle to a degree or another with what it means to be a Jew nowadays, including implied attitudes toward zionism. It's natural to struggle a bit with one's sense of nationhood for a nation exhiled for so long. It's natural for anyone in fact. We human beings are not nationalist robots.
That is one of the reasons for the love of Israel, by many Jews, since they are not surrounded by a culture in the Diaspora that emphasizes Gentile physical traits as the criteria for beauty, femininity, or masculinity. However, Jews have basically internalized these Gentile values, even though any success they had might not have come from appearing very Gentile in one's looks.
And, I have heard/read that Christian visitors to Israel are surprised to see that many Jewish Israelis make the country appear like a Hebrew speaking Gentile country. My explanation is that someone always managed to feed the blonde, blue-eyed, good looking child in the camps.
However, the Orthodox are not self-hating, nor accused of being self-hating. Only the secular ones you might be meeting get this accusation. Probably because secular Jews have internalized Gentile values.
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