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National Review Calls Bernie Sanders A Nazi

 
 
Miller
 
Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 03:35 pm
Tuesday, Jul 21, 2015 3:18 PM UTC
National Review just called Bernie Sanders a Nazi: “He’s driven by political hatred”

National Review’s “roving correspondent” Kevin Williamson equated Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders’ platform to the political ideology of the Nazi Party.

Williamson drew the comparison in a National Review column published on July 6 and adapted for National Review Online this week. Williamson describes Sanders as a “weirdo socialist from Soviet Beninjerristan” and dismissively refers to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton as “Herself.” Williamson attends a Sanders rally in Iowa and quickly mocks Sanders supporters as “kids play-acting at politics” before accusing the campaign of planting volunteers in the audience to gin up support. “You get the feeling that after a beer or three one of these characters is going to slip up and let out a “comrade.” If it’s anybody, it’s probably going to be the grandmotherly lady in the hammer-and-sickle T-shirt,” Williamson writes. He then goes on to accuse the Sanders campaign of an “incessant reliance on xenophobic (and largely untrue) tropes holding that the current economic woes of the United States are the result of scheming foreigners”:

Aside from Grandma Stalin there, there’s not a lot of overtly Soviet iconography on display around the Bernieverse, but the word “socialism” is on a great many lips.

[…]

L’Internationale, my patootie. This is national socialism.

[…]

In the Bernieverse, there’s a whole lot of nationalism mixed up in the socialism. He is, in fact, leading a national-socialist movement, which is a queasy and uncomfortable thing to write about a man who is the son of Jewish immigrants from Poland and whose family was murdered in the Holocaust. But there is no other way to characterize his views and his politics. The incessant reliance on xenophobic (and largely untrue) tropes holding that the current economic woes of the United States are the result of scheming foreigners, especially the wicked Chinese, “stealing our jobs” and victimizing his class allies is nothing more than an updated version of Kaiser Wilhelm II’s “yellow peril” rhetoric, and though the kaiser had a more poetical imagination — he said he had a vision of the Buddha riding a dragon across Europe, laying waste to all — Bernie’s take is substantially similar. He describes the normalization of trade relations with China as “catastrophic” — Sanders and Jesse Helms both voted against the Clinton-backed China-trade legislation — and heaps scorn on every other trade-liberalization pact. That economic interactions with foreigners are inherently hurtful and exploitative is central to his view of how the world works.

He goes on, attempting to clarify his mixed-up comparison:

F. A. Hayek’s Road to Serfdom notwithstanding, corralling off foreign-made cars does not lead inevitably to corralling off foreign-born people, or members of ethnic minorities, although the Asians-and-Latinos-with-their-filthy-cheap-goods rhetoric in and around the Bernieverse is troubling.

There are many kinds of Us-and-Them politics, and Bernie Sanders, to be sure, is not a national socialist in the mode of Alfred Rosenberg or Julius Streicher. He is a national socialist in the mode of Hugo Chávez. He isn’t driven by racial hatred; he’s driven by political hatred. And that’s bad enough.

While Williamson attempts to clarify that his multiple references to national socialism are in no way an implicit comparison to Nazism, his description of the Citizens United Supreme Court decision is almost as absurd:

And criminalizing things is very much on Bernie’s agenda, beginning with the criminalization of political dissent. At every event he swears to introduce a constitutional amendment reversing Supreme Court decisions that affirmed the free-speech protections of people and organizations filming documentaries, organizing Web campaigns, and airing television commercials in the hopes of influencing elections or public attitudes toward public issues. That this would amount to a repeal of the First Amendment does not trouble Bernie at all. If the First Amendment enables Them, then the First Amendment has got to go.

Of course, Williamson is no stranger to controversy as the author of articles like “Laverne Cox is not a Woman” and another comparing campus sexual assault awareness campaigns to the “Salem Witch Trials.“


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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 04:19 pm

It was just a week or two ago that this Sanders character was spouting horrible lies about Israel.
Tes yeux noirs
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 05:35 pm
I see the spittle-flecked idiots are posting again.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 05:54 pm
@Tes yeux noirs,
Tes yeux noirs wrote:
spittle-flecked idiots

Name-calling won't change the fact that Sanders is a Nazi.
Lash
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 07:01 pm
@Tes yeux noirs,
Why do you hate Jews?
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 07:13 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
Name-calling won't change the fact that Sanders is a Nazi.


Come on now.........
Lash
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 07:21 pm
@Tes yeux noirs,
Tes yeux noirs wrote:

I see the spittle-flecked idiots are posting again.


Tes, I quoted the post by you that contained an anti-semitic slur by someone else, but it just looks like I made my remark to you, rather than the person who made the shitty comment.

Sorry. I don't know how it happened.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 07:36 pm
@Miller,
Oh Milller, Miller, Miller.....coming up with such an article is even for you the lowest standard.

Do they even know what Nazis were? Probably not, otherwise they wouldn't use the term so lightly. Bernie Sanders is Jewish, the very same people Nazis persecuted. Why on earth would a fairly reasonable person even believe such nonsense, let alone post it openly - of course without a comment!

You really take the cake!
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 07:40 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:


It was just a week or two ago that this Sanders character was spouting horrible lies about Israel.


Oh really? If I compare anything Sanders said to Cruz or Trump's tales, then Sanders comes out practically as someone who has more integrity, honesty, commitment and morals than the entire Republican party all together!

oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 07:41 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Come on now.........

I clearly remember a couple weeks ago that Sanders made some totally outrageous false accusations against Israel, and called on people to turn against them for those false accusations.

EDIT:
http://able2know.org/topic/317627-2#post-6165647
http://able2know.org/topic/317627-2#post-6165838
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 07:44 pm
@CalamityJane,
CalamityJane wrote:
Oh really?

Yes. His lies about Israel were unconscionable
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 07:46 pm
There is no excuse for anyone to refer to a prominent Jewish American as a Nazi. No matter how much you disagree with him... this should be out of bounds.

Shame on you all. (I can forgive Oralloy for this, but Miller should really know better.)

CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 07:49 pm
@maxdancona,
Not all, okay!
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 07:52 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:
There is no excuse for anyone to refer to a prominent Jewish American as a Nazi. No matter how much you disagree with him... this should be out of bounds.

That is incorrect. When someone is falsely accusing Jews of imaginary crimes and is extolling people to turn against those Jews for those imaginary crimes, calling that person a Nazi is entirely appropriate.

Self-Hating Jews are NOT immune from condemnation.


maxdancona wrote:
Shame on you all. (I can forgive Oralloy for this, but Miller should really know better.)

That's odd. Why am I the only one who is allowed to tell the truth???
CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 07:54 pm
@oralloy,
Oh my oralloy, you're such an imbecile *sigh*

Why don't you read up on WWII and history in general, so you can learn what the word Nazi really means.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 08:00 pm
@CalamityJane,
CalamityJane wrote:
Oh my oralloy, you're such an imbecile *sigh*

Let's see if anyone can point out any facts that I am wrong about.


CalamityJane wrote:
Why don't you read up on WWII and history in general, so you can learn what the word Nazi really means.

I already know a huge amount regarding both subjects. I'm one of the world's top experts on the A-bombings and the corresponding surrender of Japan.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 08:07 pm
@oralloy,
Oralloy, I am not going to argue with you. I am going to plead with you just once... and then I am going to ignore you. Think about what you are doing. Do you know who the Nazi's were? Do you know how they killed families in gas chambers and ovens in extermination camps?

Jewish people (like everyone else) have disagreements... even about Israel. There is a spectrum of opinion. There are some Jewish people in Israel who share your conservative view. There are other Jewish people who agree more with me and think Israel should stop the settlements and work for peace. There are even some Orthodox religious Jewish people who don't think the state of Israel is legitimate as a political entity.

You can have a political disagreement. I am not saying that you can't express your opinion. But there is a line of decency that should not be crossed.

There are different political viewpoints among Jews... the descendants of the victims of the Holocaust. For you to refer to any of these Jewish people as a "Nazi" is obscene.

Please think about what you are doing, and then stop.

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maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 09:41 pm
@oralloy,
And you and Miller are comfortable dividing Jews into two groups-- Good Jews and Bad Jews...

... and if you are comfortable referring the Jews that don't meet your level of judgement as "Nazi's" (a name given to the evil criminal who killed millions).

I suppose there isn't much I can do about it. I can't stop you from appointing yourself as Judge of Jews.

But I want to make it very clear that I find the whole idea to be obscene.
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 30 Apr, 2016 09:58 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:
... and if you are comfortable referring the Jews that don't meet your level of judgement as "Nazi's" (a name given to the evil criminal who killed millions).

Let's be clear here. The only Jews who I am accusing of being Nazis, are the ones who are actually being Nazis.

Sanders did not get called a Nazi (by me at least) until he started making outrageous false accusations against Jews and calling on people to turn against those Jews for those false accusations.

The notion that it is OK for Sanders to be a Nazi but wrong for me to condemn his Nazism is surreal.
 

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