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What should I think about my husband and his internet porn?

 
 
Tanbear
 
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Reply Fri 3 Dec, 2004 01:59 am
cavfancier wrote:
Tanbear, no offense, but you are seriously conflicted. You would prefer to stay in a miserable marriage because you don't want to pay alimony? Maybe it's really because you would rather make his life as miserable as you feel yours is. It's called passive-aggressive, and silent revenge. Sheesh, I'm married, on the computer most of the day for work, and I don't look at any porn. I couldn't care less.

Your sweeping generalization of men based on what you have read on an anonymous internet forum just makes you sound like you don't really want any advice at all, as jp suggested.


Where did I ever say I wanted advice ? I've been given plenty of advice here that all boils down to the same thing, I'm supposed to loving and understandingly accept that my husband is no longer visually stimulated by me and that anytime he touches me his desire was sparked/driven by somebody else.

Why did I come here ? because I am puzzled, "accept it" "it's just how men are" "be grateful he fscks you" seems to be the widespread advice given to women on the porn subject. I wanted to see what the reaction to a woman treating a man the exact same way many men treat women on this would be responded to.


As far as divorce goes, why on earth would I take a second job in order to pay alimony so that a middle aged man can live in a nice apartment and pay for porn on my dime?

No, there are some new rules around here.. the rules aren't major, they simply allow me the same freedoms and rights that he's enjoyed for quite some time, if he doesn't like it, he can find himself a job, pack his things and go.
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jpinMilwaukee
 
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Reply Fri 3 Dec, 2004 08:01 am
Tanbear wrote:
I've been given plenty of advice here that all boils down to the same thing, I'm supposed to loving and understandingly accept that my husband is no longer visually stimulated by me and that anytime he touches me his desire was sparked/driven by somebody else.

Why did I come here ? because I am puzzled, "accept it" "it's just how men are" "be grateful he fscks you" seems to be the widespread advice given to women on the porn subject.


Nobody has said anything even remotely close to this. If you are to dense to understand what we are saying than so be it. I for one am now done giving you the attention you so obviously crave. Enjoy the rest of your life in a relationship that makes you miserable.
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Tanbear
 
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Reply Fri 3 Dec, 2004 01:39 pm
jpinMilwaukee wrote:
Tanbear wrote:
I've been given plenty of advice here that all boils down to the same thing, I'm supposed to loving and understandingly accept that my husband is no longer visually stimulated by me and that anytime he touches me his desire was sparked/driven by somebody else.

Why did I come here ? because I am puzzled, "accept it" "it's just how men are" "be grateful he fscks you" seems to be the widespread advice given to women on the porn subject.


Nobody has said anything even remotely close to this. If you are to dense to understand what we are saying than so be it. I for one am now done giving you the attention you so obviously crave. Enjoy the rest of your life in a relationship that makes you miserable.


Chuckling, I won't be miserable, I've discovered the wonderful world of porn and masterbation... better than sex with my husband in every single way !
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2allu
 
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Reply Sat 11 Dec, 2004 12:42 pm
porn husband
Hi I can see what your going thru! Its too bad he has this problem.Alot of men do.One thing is if you nag him on the porn it will make things worse.I have been married 7 months and my husband is 45 and doing the same thing .I didnt know about it before I married him.He is masterbateing to it and cant have orgasm with out it!I am attractive and find this insane to get on the net at night about 20 hrs a week.There is no chatting thankgoodness.You should be glad he wants to have sex with you.Even though its hard on you.Dont let this wear on you,This is not a reflection of you what he is doing.He is an adult and your not his mother.You are a adult also.Focus on yourself .Not on him .You cant change his behavoir.But u can yours! Unfortinately there is no cure! He is in a lonely ,isolated fetish. This is like an alcoholic! So speaking frm experience and prof.guidance back off and get tht spy stuff rid of and focus on you.Remember u cant change him just yourself.And feel bad for him .It is a sickness! But not yours even if your married to him.YOu didnt start it and u wont finish it.Hope this helps ?Its a rude awakening! Sorry!
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Tanbear
 
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Reply Sun 12 Dec, 2004 11:09 pm
Re: porn husband
2allu wrote:
Hi I can see what your going thru! Its too bad he has this problem.Alot of men do.One thing is if you nag him on the porn it will make things worse.I have been married 7 months and my husband is 45 and doing the same thing .I didnt know about it before I married him.He is masterbateing to it and cant have orgasm with out it!I am attractive and find this insane to get on the net at night about 20 hrs a week.There is no chatting thankgoodness.You should be glad he wants to have sex with you.Even though its hard on you.Dont let this wear on you,This is not a reflection of you what he is doing.He is an adult and your not his mother.You are a adult also.Focus on yourself .Not on him .You cant change his behavoir.But u can yours! Unfortinately there is no cure! He is in a lonely ,isolated fetish. This is like an alcoholic! So speaking frm experience and prof.guidance back off and get tht spy stuff rid of and focus on you.Remember u cant change him just yourself.And feel bad for him .It is a sickness! But not yours even if your married to him.YOu didnt start it and u wont finish it.Hope this helps ?Its a rude awakening! Sorry!



I have no intention of "nagging" anybody, I also have no intention to "be glad he wants to have sex with you" after he's been viewing porn till all hours of the morning.

I find that attitude "be grateful, glad he still wants sex with you" to be horrible, it implies that because we aren't porn stars that we're somehow
not worthy or deserving of any sort of sexual interest or attention based on our own merits.

I have no intention of settling for a sex life that consists of a grope and a poke at 3am because he's too stimulated by porn to go to sleep,if he's horny he can trot on back out to the den and have sex with his computer monitor.
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Montana
 
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Reply Mon 13 Dec, 2004 01:57 am
I'm with you Tanbear and feel exactly as you feel. I have always felt this way and always will.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Mon 13 Dec, 2004 11:43 am
I was online looking for a Christmas gift for my wife, and she kept walking into the room. I was getting annoyed with her and then she asks "What are you doing?". I thought of this thread and said "I'm searching for lesbian porn, now leave me alone". And she did. Smile
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Taliesin181
 
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Reply Tue 14 Dec, 2004 05:21 pm
Montana/Tanbear: My view exactly, but from a male perspective. If you no longer find your spouse attractive, then you obviously didn't love them enough to begin with, and everything after the marriage is a selfish desire to satisfy your own needs while neglecting your spouses'. Your husband is shameful, Tan, and I'm sorry you're stuck in an unhappy marriage.
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Montana
 
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Reply Wed 15 Dec, 2004 06:03 am
I agree Taliesin.
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wasveryhappytillthis
 
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Reply Mon 27 Dec, 2004 02:29 pm
i agree partly with everyone.
1. My man i I just moved in together.
2. He has a small problem with internet porn.
3. I am ashamed to say I looked at his history several times. justifying to myself it was to check it wa s'normal' porn. Really i was hurt.
4. Our trust in each other has been shaken to the routes.
5. We are trying to build it back up. Now though he is worried i simply only stay up to make sure he isn't looking at porn. when i have work early - it was distroying me. so he has promised to do it during the day, when i'm at work. (our pc's are near each other). my paranoid feelings were rubbing off on him and we were both becoming suspicious of each other - on this occassion i was simply ill and wanted attention!
6. I have explained i like it too, so occassionally we watch it together.
7. He says mentioning it makes it worse, he loves sex with me and he does put a lot of effort and feeling it it.
8. i realised, he thought he would feel different to me if we had quick sex - and wanted me always to be satisfied.
9. i explained i hadn't seen alot of porn and was frightened i had to compete and or that i was satisfying him enough, or wasn't experienced in the stuff i thought he liked from what i'd seen.
10. He explained that wasn't so, he just had always kept me and porn separate. I said i love sex, *******, making love and funny play sex... all with him... i could add bad porn viewing sex if he liked.. occassionally.
11. He clearly still doesn't trust me. yet. I know he's still looks, but am 90% confident he doesn't look while i'm home.
12. I have a rapant rabbit now, we used it firstly together, he wasn't totally happy about it but i feel more on even keel. Ha Ha, after we'd been rude once i stayed in the bedroom, doing personal girl stuff... and he rushed in expecting to catch me on the rabbit - he had to check the towel on my lap to make sure...i wasn't..! i explained the feelings of paranoia he had just had were the same i had been having for ages, he understands a bit more and i hope we aren't too late to move forward.
I am alittle sacred as he did say he felt worn down by the whole thing.

13. I download porn myself - and get him to remove the virus's u get every now and again... hee hee

I have been reading the boards the whole time to help me through it it has helped.. I know now to concentrate on me - i had become pre-occupied on him and the porn.
I'm going to start dancing - i love dancing... He has already said he might come along... (he hates dancing!...i think he's worried who my partner would be!) .. anyway.. isn't dancing a pre-laude to sex.

I have started to be happier - which helps .. being moody about it all the time puts them off u too!

I do feel it isn't an addiction (no comment here to child porn or anything rough or harmful as that is different) in the same way as drinking or smoking. The pleasure is a physical thing.

My intial instinct with my man was he was a good genuine guy. He has high morals regarding relationships and I respect him is so many ways and for his other oppinions. He is caring and funny and clearly loves me.
I am lucky.

Unpinning everything though is, we discussed being patient with each others fears and paranoia, we listen to each other. and we are making rules for our selves to suit us.

my advice is talk about it. He won't stop so you have to find a balance.
IN ANY sexual relationship you need to be happy with yourself and with your partner and a mutual love and respect and trust are hard to keep but are achiveable if you work through it.

he's at work... instead of looking at his computer ...go dancing,
don't do stuff round the house and simply pleasure yourself! Thats what i'm off to do now! men have it so good! when he says where dinner i say.. i spent the afternoon thinking of u and masterbating... so i haven't done anything! honesty! what can they say???? ha ha! turn it round men live like that cos its fun... next to invest in a play station!
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myty32097
 
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Reply Thu 30 Dec, 2004 01:29 am
Katie2,

I just have one thing to say: WHERE DO YOU GET THAT PROGRAM???
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wasveryhappytillthis
 
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Reply Sat 1 Jan, 2005 02:37 pm
? ?? ???
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Caseydia
 
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Reply Fri 7 Jan, 2005 12:26 pm
Terrible.
Any fool would think he should get himself a wife who does the same thing about guys. Confused
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Tanbear
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2005 01:06 am
Just a bit of an update for you all.

After several weeks of this I've discovered to my pleasure that watching porn and pleasing myself is sooo much hotter and more arousing than sex with my husband ever was.I've purchased a new computer with a very large hard drive for myself,I've also sampled some sex toys purchased on the web.

The last time my husband reached for me, I asked him to please not bother, that I could now see the situation via his viewpoint and feel
our sex life was tired,boring.I also confided that having had a good look at other men now makes it impossible for me to be aroused by his pasty,flabby middle aged body and that having to conjur up enough mental imagery to be able to fake it just isn't worth the effort involved.

He can have his computer in the den, he can now in fact do whatever he likes with whomever he likes.. just as long as he no longer bothers me.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2005 03:23 am
Tanbear wrote:
Just a bit of an update for you all.

After several weeks of this I've discovered to my pleasure that watching porn and pleasing myself is sooo much hotter and more arousing than sex with my husband ever was.I've purchased a new computer with a very large hard drive for myself,I've also sampled some sex toys purchased on the web.

The last time my husband reached for me, I asked him to please not bother, that I could now see the situation via his viewpoint and feel
our sex life was tired,boring.I also confided that having had a good look at other men now makes it impossible for me to be aroused by his pasty,flabby middle aged body and that having to conjur up enough mental imagery to be able to fake it just isn't worth the effort involved.

He can have his computer in the den, he can now in fact do whatever he likes with whomever he likes.. just as long as he no longer bothers me.


My guess is that he is delighted with the new arrangement! Sounds as though this is the best thing that could have happened for him.
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BorisKitten
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2005 01:19 pm
Tanbear wrote:
Just a bit of an update for you all.

After several weeks of this I've discovered to my pleasure that watching porn and pleasing myself is sooo much hotter and more arousing than sex with my husband ever was.I've purchased a new computer with a very large hard drive for myself,I've also sampled some sex toys purchased on the web.

The last time my husband reached for me, I asked him to please not bother, that I could now see the situation via his viewpoint and feel
our sex life was tired,boring.I also confided that having had a good look at other men now makes it impossible for me to be aroused by his pasty,flabby middle aged body and that having to conjur up enough mental imagery to be able to fake it just isn't worth the effort involved.

He can have his computer in the den, he can now in fact do whatever he likes with whomever he likes.. just as long as he no longer bothers me.


Read this whole thread in one go, and have a couple of comments (I'm a married, 43-yr-old female). Personally, I like having a male body about when I have sex. This is SO much better for me than a computer screen that I can hardly compare them.

Part of the reason I married my husband is because I really want to have sex with him, a lot. Not a facsimile of him, but him with all the flesh & smells & sweat & panting and all that.

Maybe you married this guy for totally different reasons? And now the sex is becoming more important to you than it was before? If so, you can certainly ask him to try to be more attractive to you. After all, all he can do is say "No, I'd prefer fantasy."

I think it's sad that you can't connect sexually with this guy. I also think it's really mean of him to make it so obvious about his porn thing. I can't help but think he meant to hurt you by it, and thus your wanting to hurt him back isn't justified, really, but understandable.

It seems to me your getting a new computer doesn't do a whole lot to get you The Real Thing, which as I said I think is better than any fantasy (gosh, lots of people would disagree with me on that one!)

Can you work sort of slowly towards sex with him? After all, men can learn just like we can, and he can be taught (if he's willing) what really pleasures you. He'd probably be thrilled (they mostly are) to learn you want sex too, which he should be figuring out by now. Or maybe you feel so much better now, you could care less about sex with him?

On the one hand, a marriage is whatever works for the partners and makes them happy. If you both feel that NO actual sex with your spouse is the best option for your marriage, and the 2 of you agree on it, more power to you both.

On the other, connecting with another person is one of the main reasons to be married. Wouldn't you rather have sex with a real person? I guess the question is, now that you've "taught him a lesson," is is worth the trouble to work towards sex with your spouse?

Ya don't have to answer, just some stuff to think about.
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Taliesin181
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2005 02:19 pm
I'll echo Boris and add that the point of sex is intimacy, and, as it's impossible to be intimate with a computer, you might want to try and re-connect with your husband. If that doesn't appeal to you, then I have no answer beyond divorce, which I believe you've already refused. Good Luck, Tanbear..
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2005 02:28 pm
Tanbear, you need one of these.

http://www.blissbox.com/store/detail.asp?productid=1516
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Tanbear
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2005 03:40 pm
Frank Apisa wrote:
Tanbear wrote:
Just a bit of an update for you all.

After several weeks of this I've discovered to my pleasure that watching porn and pleasing myself is sooo much hotter and more arousing than sex with my husband ever was.I've purchased a new computer with a very large hard drive for myself,I've also sampled some sex toys purchased on the web.

The last time my husband reached for me, I asked him to please not bother, that I could now see the situation via his viewpoint and feel
our sex life was tired,boring.I also confided that having had a good look at other men now makes it impossible for me to be aroused by his pasty,flabby middle aged body and that having to conjur up enough mental imagery to be able to fake it just isn't worth the effort involved.

He can have his computer in the den, he can now in fact do whatever he likes with whomever he likes.. just as long as he no longer bothers me.


My guess is that he is delighted with the new arrangement! Sounds as though this is the best thing that could have happened for him.



I could care less what pleases him at this point,just as long as I'm no longer required to function as his cumrag at 3am after he's been viewing porn half the night.

To answer other points you've brought up here, why on earth would anybody wish to retablish sexual intimacy with somebody who's made it crystal clear that they no longer desire you or find you attractive because you aren't 20 anymore?

It is humilating enough to be the only one paying the bills here, I have no intention of further degrading myself by becoming the streotypical
desparate middle aged hag who must pay thru the nose and beg for
sex while expressing gratitude that he'd lower himself enough to touch me.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Mon 10 Jan, 2005 03:42 pm
Tanbear wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
Tanbear wrote:
Just a bit of an update for you all.

After several weeks of this I've discovered to my pleasure that watching porn and pleasing myself is sooo much hotter and more arousing than sex with my husband ever was.I've purchased a new computer with a very large hard drive for myself,I've also sampled some sex toys purchased on the web.

The last time my husband reached for me, I asked him to please not bother, that I could now see the situation via his viewpoint and feel
our sex life was tired,boring.I also confided that having had a good look at other men now makes it impossible for me to be aroused by his pasty,flabby middle aged body and that having to conjur up enough mental imagery to be able to fake it just isn't worth the effort involved.

He can have his computer in the den, he can now in fact do whatever he likes with whomever he likes.. just as long as he no longer bothers me.


My guess is that he is delighted with the new arrangement! Sounds as though this is the best thing that could have happened for him.



I could care less what pleases him at this point,just as long as I'm no longer required to function as his cumrag at 3am after he's been viewing porn half the night.



Actually...you didn't have to explain that, Tan.
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