Breaking News: Shooting in Milwaukee

LOL....Here is a poem created by a man who is part of a once great people in my opinion hell he could had been an American.

Rudyard Kipling

The Explorer
1898
There's no sense in going further -- it's the edge of cultivation,"
So they said, and I believed it -- broke my land and sowed my crop --
Built my barns and strung my fences in the little border station
Tucked away below the foothills where the trails run out and stop:

Till a voice, as bad as Conscience, rang interminable changes
On one everlasting Whisper day and night repeated -- so:
"Something hidden. Go and find it. Go and look behind the Ranges --
"Something lost behind the Ranges. Lost and wating for you. Go!"

So I went, worn out of patience; never told my nearest neighbours --
Stole away with pack and ponies -- left 'em drinking in the town;
And the faith that moveth mountains didn't seem to help my labours
As I faced the sheer main-ranges, whipping up and leading down.

March by march I puzzled through 'em, turning flanks and dodging shoulders,
Hurried on in hope of water, headed back for lack of grass;
Till I camped above the tree-line -- drifted snow and naked boulders --
Felt free air astir to windward -- knew I'd stumbled on the Pass.

'Thought to name it for the finder: but that night the Norther found me --
Froze and killed the plains-bred ponies; so I called the camp Despair
(It's the Railway Gap to-day, though). Then my Whisper waked to hound me: --
"Something lost behind the Ranges. Over yonder! Go you there!"

Then I knew, the while I doubted -- knew His Hand was certain o'er me.
Still -- it might be self-delusion -- scores of better men had died --
I could reach the township living, but....e knows what terror tore me...
But I didn't... but I didn't. I went down the other side.

Till the snow ran out in flowers, and the flowers turned to aloes,
And the aloes sprung to thickets and a brimming stream ran by;
But the thickets dwined to thorn-scrub, and the water drained to shallows,
And I dropped again on desert -- blasted earth, and blasting sky....

I remember lighting fires; I remember sitting by 'em;
I remember seeing faces, hearing voices, through the smoke;
I remember they were fancy -- for I threw a stone to try 'em.
"Something lost behind the Ranges" was the only word they spoke.

I remember going crazy. I remember that I knew it
When I heard myself hallooing to the funny folk I saw.
'Very full of dreams that desert, but my two legs took me through it...
And I used to watch 'em moving with the toes all black and raw.

But at last the country altered -- White Man's country past disputing --
Rolling grass and open timber, with a hint of hills behind --
There I found me food and water, and I lay a week recruiting.
Got my strength and lost my nightmares. Then I entered on my find.

Thence I ran my first rough survey -- chose my trees and blazed and ringed 'em --
Week by week I pried and sampled -- week by week my findings grew.
Saul he went to look for donkeys, and by God he found a kingdom!
But by God, who sent His Whisper, I had struck the worth of two!

Up along the hostile mountains, where the hair-poised snowslide shivers --
Down and through the big fat marshes that the virgin ore-bed stains,
Till I heard the mile-wide mutterings of unimagined rivers,
And beyond the nameless timber saw illimitable plains!

'Plotted sites of future cities, traced the easy grades between 'em;
Watched unharnessed rapids wasting fifty thousand head an hour;
Counted leagues of water-frontage through the axe-ripe woods that screen 'em --
Saw the plant to feed a people -- up and waiting for the power!

Well, I know who'll take the credit -- all the clever chaps that followed --
Came, a dozen men together -- never knew my desert-fears;
Tracked me by the camps I'd quitted, used the water-holes I hollowed.
They'll go back and do the talking. They'll be called the Pioneers!

They will find my sites of townships -- not the cities that I set there.
They will rediscover rivers -- not my rivers heard at night.
By my own old marks and bearings they will show me how to get there,
By the lonely cairns I builded they will guide my feet aright.

Have I named one single river? Have I claimed one single acre?
Have I kept one single nugget -- (barring samples)? No, not I!
Because my price was paid me ten times over by my Maker.
But you wouldn't understand it. You go up and occupy.

Ores you'll find there; wood and cattle; water-transit sure and steady
(That should keep the railway rates down), coal and iron at your doors.
God took care to hide that country till He judged His people ready,
Then He chose me for His Whisper, and I've found it, and it's yours!

Yes, your "Never-never country" -- yes, your "edge of cultivation"
And "no sense in going further" -- till I crossed the range to see.
God forgive me! No, I didn't. It's God's present to our nation.
Anybody might have found it, but -- His Whisper came to Me!

Racial hatred, politics & guns ...
Cause & effect.
You've really got to wonder at the sheer stupidity & blatant opportunism of some politicians, so soon after the Milwaukee killings.
Maybe racial hatred is a real vote winner with the ignorant in the electorate?


Joe Walsh: Muslims In America, Radical Islam 'A Threat' More Now Than After 9/11:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/10/joe-walsh-muslims-in-amer_n_1764034.html?utm_hp_ref=chicago



David Conrad Charged With Firing Shots At Chicago-Area Mosque :
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/12/david-conrad-charged-with_n_1770314.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003

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According to Olga, in the absence of racially based hatred,
no one is interested in keeping guns for personal defense????
I find that hard to believe.





David

What an incredibly dumb & insensitive response to those articles, David.
I have implied no such thing.
Go back & read the articles again.
You have absolutely no experience (say nothing of zilch empathy) of anything like what it must feel like to be part of a minority community under siege, for absolutely no good reason ... apart from racial & religious bigotry, from ignorant people who exercise their ignorance with weapons.

All this talk of freedom & rights, David.
What about the freedom and the rights of Muslim Americans to enjoy the same rights & freedoms you enjoy?



http://www.salon.com/2012/08/14/eight_attacks_11_days/
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I 'll stand by what I said in Post: # 5,075,573, Olga,
in reply to your post quoted hereinabove, to wit:
"Racial hatred, politics & guns ...
Cause & effect."

People need to defend themselves,
regardless of the Moslems.

I feel no need to figure out
what it feels like to be a Moslem,
but I will not drive any stolen planes into any edifices.





David

You still haven't read those articles.
Obviously.
But don't worry. You wouldn't understand anyway.

David, I don't think Olga is as naturally a fearful person as you are.

I understand that as a frightened person you feel the need for personal defense, but that, as always, is about you and your fears.

For years & decades, I saw Moslems kneeling down
toward the East, in airports; it meant nothing to me. I don't care,
but as of 9/11/1, I began to doubt the wisdom of letting alien Moslems
into America, when thay r in a state of war against us.





David

And do you think that attitude will help American Moslems integrate into society?

True.


I feel tranquil.



I don't care about the Moslems -- no interest -- so long as thay don 't blow things up.

I don 't think that 's asking too much.





David

The articles I posted were about the increasing number of recent attacks on Muslim places of worship in the US ... connected to "hate speech", etc.
I don't see that David has responded to the information & the concerns expressed in those articles.
I'm not particularly interested in whether David feels "tranquil" or not.
But I do understand the concerns of the people who feel they are being unfairly targeted & made to feel threatened & unsafe in their own communities.

Take note not every things is as it appear on the surface I still remembers that a large outbreak of black churches being burned in the South and the deed was place on white hate groups.

Turn out that almost every one of those churchs fires had zero to do with white hate groups.

I fear nothing. I have mentioned that many times.
Your attributions of fear to me are continuing lies; repeated, redundant, lies.

I am aware of violence in the world.
I have no emotions toward it
(altho it pleases me when victims succeed in killing violent predators).

Being aware of extant risks does not require a man to feel emotions
toward those dangers. Quite a few times, I have posted
that I keep a fire extinguisher, tho I have no dread of any conflagration.
Similarly, I have posted in the fullness of candor that I carry jacks n spare tires
in the trunks of my cars, yet I live in no fear of flat tires.
I carry health insurance, yet I do not live in fear of heart attacks.

Beth, are u able to understand that there is a distinction
between emotions and PRUDENCE ??

It is rude to pretend that u can read someone else's mind
and then to (falsely) describe what he is thinking.

My resentment of what the Moslems have done on 9/11/1
is distinct from fear of the Moslems.

My sense of the situation is that I am personally in NO danger
from the Moslems, the same as I was safe on 9/11/1.





David

No.
Do u think that I choose to involve myself in that ?????

I certainly am.

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At the same time, years of reading your posts reveal a man who appears to live in fear of much of the community around him. Maybe that is how you want us to see you and you aren't really frightened - but that is the persona you present here.

Nonsense and having a fire extinguisher in your home and or car does not mean that you have an irrational fear of fire either.

So are you saying America is at war with Islam?

I support free speech, be it hateful or not.



We have already established that I did not bother to read your articles.



That statement is FALSE.
U expressly commanded me not to "worry"; to that, I responded. I remain serene.





David

Let me put the point another way, in aid of your comprehension:
obama wants everyone to get health insurance; obama does not
advocate that everyone live in a state of terror regarding possible bad health.

There is a significant DIFFERENCE between living in fear
and being governed by wisdom to be PREPARED
to control possible emergencies. Wisdom does not require emotions.





Truth be told: the only time that I actually remember being afraid
was when I was a 13 year old boy, approaching the most beautiful girl
in my class in school, named Joyce, to ask her for a date, for the first time.
I was experiencing an approach-avoidance reaction, but 5 years passed b4 I found out what that is.