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@Foofie,

why bother?

Rolling Eyes

@ehBeth,

O.K. Mox nixt.

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This has been a very strange discussion.
Six innocent members of the Sikh community in the US have been killed by a "white supremacist" gunman with a history of racial aggression & hatred ... who, despite his history, was easily able to acquire the firearms to massacre those people.
Yet so few of the posts here have addressed those facts.
This discussion has focused on other issues instead.
How come? Confused

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@msolga,

msolga wrote:

This has been a very strange discussion.
Six innocent members of the Sikh community in the US have been killed by a "white supremacist" gunman with a history of racial aggression & hatred ... who, despite his history, was easily able to acquire the firearms to massacre those people.
Yet so few of the posts here have addressed those facts.
This discussion has focused on other issues instead.
How come?

Because the Supreme Law of the Land
recognizes that government has no jurisdiction
over Bibles, newspapers and guns.
In regard to people who favor supremacy of the white race,
government still is devoid of jurisdiction concerning Bibles, newspapers and guns.
The Constitution recognizes that everyone is entitled to "equal protection of the laws",
including people who favor white supremacy.

Government remains devoid of jurisdiction to interfere
without regard to whether anyone experiences the emotions
that u named. Emotions have no effect upon jurisdiction of government, nor the absence thereof.

If government were to USURP power that was expressly denied it,
anyone woud be free to make his own guns.
People did that, by hand, for centuries before electric tools existed.

http://www.google.com/search?q=paladin+press+homemade+submachine+guns&hl=en&rlz=1R2GGHP_enUS432&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=bp0mUJ-vCauM6QGBkoHACg&sqi=2&ved=0CEoQsAQ&biw=911&bih=418

Homemade guns are fast and easy to produce, whether government likes it, or not.

http://www.paladin-press.com/product/The_Glock_Exotic_Weapons_System/Home_Workshop_Guns_and_Ammo

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

I was thinking about the volume of interest & the nature of this particular discussion, compared to the interest & the considerably more focused discussion following the Denver Batman movie premiere killings, David.

Quote:

Government remains devoid of jurisdiction to interfere
without regard to whether anyone experiences the emotions
that u named. Emotions have no effect upon jurisdiction of government, nor the absence thereof.

I wasn't talking about emotions at all.
But I think you knew that already.
It seems rather odd & very unfortunate that government cannot "interfere" (apparently) when a person has a known history of being a danger & a threat to innocent people.

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@msolga,

msolga wrote:

I was thinking about the volume of interest & the nature of this particular discussion, compared to the interest & the considerably more focused discussion following the Denver Batman movie premiere killings, David.

Quote:
Government remains devoid of jurisdiction to interfere
without regard to whether anyone experiences the emotions
that u named. Emotions have no effect upon jurisdiction of government, nor the absence thereof.

I wasn't talking about emotions at all.
But I think you know that, too.

That is NOT true, Olga.
U explicitly referred to "hatred"; that is an EMOTION, that u have now denied,
but it is on the record, hereinabove.

THAT is what I know.

David

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@msolga,

Quote:

I was thinking about the volume of interest & the nature of this particular discussion, compared to the interest & the considerably more focused discussion following the Denver Batman movie premiere killings, David.

shooting up a Batman movie is way more cool than is shooting up a meeting place of some religious group almost no has has heard of, plus the Colorado case has the angle of genius gone bad. If you were going to make a movie of the week which story would you go with?

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@msolga,

msolga wrote:

It seems rather odd & very unfortunate that government cannot "interfere" (apparently)
when a person has a known history of being a danger & a threat to innocent people.

A man can be held to account for his misconduct,
or confined for insanity, if it is sufficiently conspicuous & dangerous.

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@hawkeye10,

Quote:

I was thinking about the volume of interest & the nature of this particular discussion, compared to the interest & the considerably more focused discussion following the Denver Batman movie premiere killings, David.

hawkeye10 wrote:

shooting up a Batman movie is way more cool than is shooting up a meeting place of some religious group almost no has has heard of, plus the Colorado case has the angle of genius gone bad. If you were going to make a movie of the week which story would you go with?

It is a pity that the victims were not sufficiently well armed,
in their own defense. (I have in mind some heavy duty revolvers, maybe magnum.)

Maybe thay will learn from this experience; "don 't leave home with out it."
( your American Express Card and your .44 revolver )

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

The problem, David, is that such a man could legally buy weapons like those he used to kill those people, despite what the authorities had known about him for years!

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@OmSigDAVID,

Quote:

It is a pity that the victims were not sufficiently well armed,
in their own defense. (I have in mind some heavy duty revolvers, maybe magnum.

Sure.
Just the thing for people to take with them when they go to their church to worship! Neutral

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@msolga,

Quote:

It is a pity that the victims were not sufficiently well armed,
in their own defense. (I have in mind some heavy duty revolvers, maybe magnum.

msolga wrote:

Sure.
Just the thing for people to take with them when they go to their church to worship!

GOOD POINT, Olga !

Thay shud take Jesus’ advice:
"he that hath no sword, let him ... buy one." Luke 22:36 [ or extrapolate to a modern .44 revolver ? ]

In the words of Karl Malden: "don 't leave home without it."

David

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@msolga,

msolga wrote:

The problem, David, is that such a man could legally buy weapons
like those he used to kill those people, despite what the authorities had known about him for years!

What DIFFERENCE does it make?????

Did u look at my posted links qua homemade submachineguns?????

Y shud anyone give a damn
what something as low as a government wants???
Remember: we created the damned thing; its OURS.
It works for us; we don't work for IT.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

But they weren't Christians in this case, David. They were Sikhs.

Not that I believe for a minute that Luke 22:36 was implying that a church was an appropriate place for a soot-up! Neutral

And who gives a stuff about what Karl Malden says (in a paid advertisement?) ?
What does that have to do with the completely unnecessary deaths that occurred? Confused

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@msolga,

I have to go & cook dinner now, David. Company here before too long.

So sadly, I won't be able to read nor respond to any more of your terrificly convincing arguments!
What a shame. Wink

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@msolga,

msolga wrote:

But they weren't Christians in this case, David. They were Sikhs.

Yea, so thay did not follow his advice,
and u see the results. Yes ?

msolga wrote:

And who gives a stuff about what Karl Malden says (in a paid advertisement?) ?

Its the merit of what he says,
more than who says it, that counts.
Thay NEEDED defensive ordnance.
Its better to HAVE a gun and not need it
than it is to NEED a gun and not have it.

The Sikhs found that out.

msolga wrote:

What does that have to do with the completely unnecessary deaths that occurred?

IF thay had been better prepared,
then thay 'd have given a better account of themselves, when defense was necessary.
That is better than being slaughtered like chickens,
in the discretion of an assassin.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

The Sikhs found that out.

That Americans like killing, especially brown people. And for some people the right to murder trumps everything.

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@izzythepush,

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That Americans like killing, especially brown people. And for some people the right to murder trumps everything.

Lord this "gentleman' had the same national blood line as Churchill and Kipping and ..................

How sad that a once great people had gone downhill to this degree.

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@BillRM,

Who the **** is Kipping?

There is no chance of the foreign invasion/home grown dictatorship guerilla warfare nightmare you prattle on about ever happening.

Yet there are regular gun rampages and shootings that you're very happy to have going on, just so long as you can have a gun and feel slightly less inadequate.

For a sad, pathetic, semi-literate like you, the right to murder/rape/view child pornography and drive around pissed out of your head, does trump everything.

Sad to think that the country that produced Lincoln and Roosevelt can produce a grunting, atavistic proto-hominid like you.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

Who the **** is Kipping?

Maybe he admires RUDYARD KIPLING ?

izzythepush wrote:

There is no chance of the foreign invasion/home grown dictatorship guerilla warfare
nightmare you prattle on about ever happening.

Yet there are regular gun rampages and shootings that you're very happy to have going on,
just so long as you can have a gun and feel slightly less inadequate.

Well, its like possessing water hoses, to suppress fire.
Thay can come in handy.
Only the supporters of subverting the Bill of Rights
to enable gun control have reason to be "very happy"
when "gun rampages" r perpetrated, because emotions
that can result therefrom can promote their agenda
of USURPATION of power by government,
at the expense of personal liberty, raping the Constitution.

Pro-freedom citizens have no reason to be "very happy" when murders happen.

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