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Breaking News: Shooting in Milwaukee

 
 
Miller
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 01:31 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

... because we will see a lot of it as people begin to wake up to how thouroughly fucked America is.


How is this related to the biochemical basis of schizophrenia?
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 01:34 pm
@hawkeye10,
Hawkeye he at one time held the rank of sergeant and throwed his career away with alcohol and then throwed his job away as a truck driver for the same reason.

It seems that America was more then willing to delivers on the promised dream for him and he was the one totally responsible for ******* his life up.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 01:41 pm
@BillRM,
Being in Milwaukee, which is the new Detroit, this guy was surrounded by other failed people living nowhere lives and with no hope of better. Probably not a good choice on his part..like so many of his choices it seems.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 01:42 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

I think that jews have tended to set themselves apart from the rest of the collective, and tended to be successful, which has made them hated/disliked/not trusted.


My experience is that Jewish people are well-represented at all levels of the economic/social spectrum in North America.
Miller
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 01:46 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

he ... throwed his career away with alcohol and then throwed his job away as a truck driver ...
he was the one totally responsible for ******* his life up.


No one is the sole being to be held responsible for one' s demise in this life.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 01:53 pm
@Miller,
Quote:
No one is the sole being to be held responsible for one' s demise in this life.


Solely as in absolute terms you might had a point but from a practice everyday sense he was the one who fucked up his own life.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 06:33 pm
A little digging reveals that this crime took place in a wealthy area compared to the Greater Milwaukee area or even the state as a whole. also we have this:

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Page worked as a driver from 2006 to 2010 for Barr-Nunn Transportation, a trucking company based in Iowa. He was fired in August 2010 after being cited in North Carolina for driving while impaired by alcohol or some other chemical substance.

The company said in a statement that Page was driving his personal vehicle in North Carolina at the time of the citation, and he refused to submit to a blood-alcohol test when pulled over.

After losing his job, Page apparently ran into financial trouble. Public records show that his home, in a rural part of Fayetteville, N.C., was foreclosed on in January. Page had bought the house for $165,000 in 2007, refinanced his mortgage two years later and had fallen far behind in payments.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/excessive-drinking-cost-wade-michael-page-military-career-civilian-job/2012/08/07/274ccc7a-e095-11e1-a421-8bf0f0e5aa11_story.html?hpid=z2

The single minded "journalists" keep droning on about race, but class hate seems probable as well. More investigation is required, but I think we will find that the Milwaukee area Sikhs are far more successful economically than the average Joe, as Sikhs in Briton and the US tend to be.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 09:28 pm
@hawkeye10,
Class hate?

You are of the opinion that the victims on average was wealthy then him at least before he **** up his own life with a bottle?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 09:59 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Class hate?

You are of the opinion that the victims on average was wealthy then him at least before he **** up his own life with a bottle?


Sure looks to me that he was blaming others for his failed life. He had nothing and no girl, lashing out at those who had community and wealth is the most natural thing we should expect from him. Religion and race may have been completely besides the point. A great many of the alleged white supremisists are mostly about outrage that the life they once expected to have is gone, the american dream is dead. They blame the newcomers, which is their right though I dont think that the evidence supports their position, but race hate is a byproduct not the main motivation.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 10:17 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
He had nothing and no girl


Not getting lay often or not at all seems to be one marker for these killers and perhaps we should blame US women for not putting out enough to keep the fringe crazies from going on killings sprees. Drunk
roger
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 10:28 pm
@Miller,
And. . . ?
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 10:41 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Not getting lay often or not at all seems to be one marker for these killers and perhaps we should blame US women for not putting out enough to keep the fringe crazies from going on killings sprees

we still have some women who consider providing sex to men to be working for the public good (often the sex workers), but not enough. You gotta wonder if these guys might have gotten what they need with some high quality consensual BDSM.
msolga
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 02:43 am
@hawkeye10,
Laughing

You do say some very silly things sometimes!
(Sorry if that was meant to cause massive outrage. It didn't work.)
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 03:07 am
@msolga,
msolga wrote:

Laughing

You do say some very silly things sometimes!
(Sorry if that was meant to cause massive outrage. It didn't work.)

Super...now do you have either evidence or an argument that makes me wrong??

Of course not.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 03:19 am
@hawkeye10,
You've been proven wrong on countless occasions Hawkeye, so much so, that everything you say can be taken with a pinch of salt.

Why don't you try posting evidence that proves you're right?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 03:24 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

You've been proven wrong on countless occasions Hawkeye, so much so, that everything you say can be taken with a pinch of salt.

Why don't you try posting evidence that proves you're right?

The long tradition of practical and successful military commanders having sluts travel with their armys, or making use of the women on their travels.

Now it is you turn....do you have either some evidence or an argument in the overly emotional simple mind of yours?
msolga
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 03:34 am
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
Super...now do you have either evidence or an argument that makes me wrong??


You mean evidence or an argument in response to this?:

Quote:
we still have some women who consider providing sex to men to be working for the public good (often the sex workers), but not enough. You gotta wonder if these guys might have gotten what they need with some high quality consensual BDSM.

Don't be ridiculous, hawkeye.
No person in their right mind would even consider entering into a discussion or argument with you over such a nonsense "theory". Neutral




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izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 03:35 am
@hawkeye10,
I've already proven you wrong, lots of times, and don't need to waste my time looking at each of your ridiculous arguments.

However, for now, let's just look at the successful democratic elections in Libya, that have returned a secular president. You were dead wrong about that.
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 03:41 am
2:35 AM – 08/ 7/2012
The Coalition To Stop Gun Violence said in a statement today:

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Coalition To Stop Gun Violence: 'Our Hearts Are Heavy Today'

Washington, DC—Our hearts are heavy today as we join the nation in mourning the six innocent Americans who were killed yesterday at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. But “thoughts and prayers” are no longer enough in an America that experiences one mass shooting tragedy after another. For those who are in a position to take action that would save lives, it is immoral to share condolences and then immediately abdicate any responsibility to fight for the reforms that would prevent the next massacre. It’s time for all people of conscience to send a clear and loud message to their elected officials: Restore sanity to the screening system for gun buyers in this country, or we will vote you out of office.

The gunman in Oak Creek, 40 year-old neo-Nazi Wade Michael Page, had much in common with other recent mass shooters. He used a semiautomatic firearm with high-capacity ammunition magazines. And he was able to purchase his guns and ammo legally despite a personal history replete with red flags. Page was an Army veteran who had been discharged under less than honorable conditions. He had a criminal history. Most importantly, Page had been publicly involved in the White Power movement since 2000. He was known to both federal law enforcement authorities and also anti-hate watch groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center. And this is just what we know after a few hours.

This country deserves a firearm policy that prevents military-style hardware from falling into the hands of dangerous and deranged individuals. Our daily experience with gruesome violence is not inevitable. Let’s be clear: The repeated nature of these events is the direct result of the poor policy choices made by our elected leaders. Americans can solve big problems when they set their minds to it. Today is the day to start making these changes. We ask every American to call their elected representatives today and demand immediate reform. It’s long past time to stand up to the National Rifle Association and say, “Enough.”


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/06/unknown-person-of-interest_n_1747804.html?ref=topbar#100_coalition-to-stop-gun-violence-our-hearts-are-heavy-today
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Foofie
 
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Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 12:28 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

The problem of the Jews has been going on for over a thousand years. I think it is less now because so many jews now make an effort to fit it but when we see the irrational support of Israels abuse of the Palistinians from the American elite we know that the Jewish problem still exists. We see with Israel the Jews of America being politically successful even though they don't represent our values.


Your defining Jews as a "problem" is telling. Your refering to "our" values is telling. What part of the country do you live in, so I can avoid it.
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