@Thomas,
Quote:When my own father was Gracie's age, he didn't just date in defiance of his father. He took a stick and beat his father up once. My grandfather, see, was in a habit of beating his wife and his daughter. Beating him up was the only way for my then-13-year-old father to stop him. And, mind you, that's not a one-off anecdote. In this thread alone, I know of at least one person whose father has treated him or her worse than my grandfather treated his family.
Now, I'm not saying that Gracie's father is in that category. But cases like my father's and that other a2ker's destroy your putative rule that parents automatically deserve the solidarity of other grownups. If you think it's irresponsible to reject this rule, so be it. I reject it anyway.
Thomas, sometimes our own beliefs come from what we went through or someone close to us, ie) your Father, and no-one can change that belief.
So your Father was 13, was beaten, turned to do the same, he had to, so his Father was no Authority figure in his eyes.. He did what he wanted, or to survive.
This is different, you are using your family situation, as a reason some other 13 year old should be difiant against her Father.
A 13 year old boy, could spend a couple of nights on the street homeless, and probably survive. I doubt a 13 year old girl would, her emotions, tears, to start with would bring un-wanted attention, she may even trust an older woman who says, I'll look after you, and find out she was wrong. She has no street skills, smarts, to survive.. A boy will fight, run.
Same with the possibility of being approached for sex, at some stage into the relationship.. He will be cool, calm.. And, she will not know her emotions, think of the l word probably say yes, as she is not worldly with distinguishing love from lust at least from a male's point of view..
And, I don't care what State it is, If Collin ends up having sex with Gracie, he has to be doing it knowingly, of her age, and possible consequences, I don't think we'd be so hard if she was 15, ...
Gracie, we are Adults, we are going to act like one, whether we, you like it or not, as an Adult, we don't want Gracie to get into trouble, along the way, if your Father says no, like I said, invite Collin for dinner ask for a compromise, that you "date" him at your home with your Dad present, ask your Dad to re-gain your trust, and offer this as a suggestion.
I also won't and can't tell you to defy your Father.. He is your Father, it is for now his rules, but you can win his trust in an honest way.
You also don't have to do what everyone does , alot of the time girls lie to try to look better than anyone else.... Half the time it's all half truths remember that...
I'm sorry you feel your friends here aren't there agreeing with you, but this is different Gracie ... you are 13, a minor it is irresponsible for anyone to say, yeah go for it girlfriend...
But you know they all still love you.
