islam and homosexuality

Response: Yet you can't quote a single post of mine that states that homosexual sex is based on lust because I "know homosexual sex is based on lust". So your weak rebuttal fails, and only supprts the argument that homosexual sex is based on lust. Thanks for the clarification.

Any person is capable of love, but that does not mean that loving someone sexually between the same sex is possible. So saying so is not hatred, when it is a fact. Again, since you claim to believe otherwise, then answer the question? Tell us, what is the difference in the sexual nature of attraction between men and women that makes the same sex love each other sexually but not the opposite?

When you can answer that question (which neither you nor anybody can) then you will have a point. Until then, the evidence is clear that homosexual sex is based on lust, and not love, so it is a dispicable act.

You might try reading him the following story, that he might see the fruits of illicit lust more clearly:

The Three Billygoats Gruff


Many years ago, in the Khwarism kingdom, the empire centered
around the cities of Samarkand, Bukhara, and Gurgange in the territory
now called Uzbekistan, there was a bridge across a narrow section of
the Syr Daria river and this bridge was guarded by a troll, named Ali
Mohammed Qa-eelbasi. This was before the padishah Mohammed of the Khwarism
empire burned the beards off of four of the infidel dog Chengis Khan's
ambassadors and Chengis Khan reduced that entire territory to a smoking
ruin (may he who cannot take a joke endure Allah's curse).

Now, this Ali Mohammed Qa-eelbasi was quite wealthy by inheritance and by
dint of clever investment strategies and stock trading and, having no need
of money or wealth beyond his possessions, and being an islamic troll,
rather than demanding money from travellers seeking to cross his bridge,
was in the habit of demanding various other favors from them.

One morning while Ali Mohammed was guarding his bridge and attempting to
catch fish in the Syr Daria, he heard the light clatter of little hooves
on the wooden planks of his bridge and looked up to see a little billygoat
traipsing across the bridge, trippity, clippity, clippity, trippity, and
this little goat (Allah be praised!!) had glossy white fur and flowers in his
mane, and was wearing a silk petticoat with what appeared to be lace panties
underneath, Ali Mohammed could not be quite certain, and a little training
bra from Bloomingdales', and had a coy smile upon his face.

"ALLAH BE PRAISED"!! shouted Ali Mohammed! Surely the faithful shall prosper,
this must be my lucky day!!!!

And, the little goat looked at Ali Mohammed, the coy smile still on his
lips, and said:



Now, when Ali Mohammed heard this, he was overcome with passion and desire,
and could scarcely restrain himself; nonetheless, he replied: "Go then,
with Allah's blessing", and allowed the little goat to cross the bridge
unmolested. "I shall (eagerly) await your brother!"

Ali Mohammed went back to his efforts to catch fish and, about a half hour
later, he heard a somewhat heavier fall of hooves across the wooden planks
of his bridge: clippity cloppity clop, clippity cloppity clop, and Ali
Mohammed looked up to a sight which aroused within him a veritable paroxism
of passion. This was a larger goat with a gossamer veil over his face, red
roses braided into his glossy white silky fur all around, a golden necklace
and the thinnest sort of a purple gossamer bodice of finest khitan silk,
and dark, brown bedroom eyes.

"ALLAH BE PRAISED!!!" shouted Ali Mohammed, "Verily, this must be the luckiest
day of my life, for surely no troll has ever beheld so lovely, and desirable,
and alluring a goat as thee!"

"Patience!" replied the goat. "Surely you might have me if you wish, but
then you would be too exhausted to appreciate my eldest brother, who travels
only a short distance behind me. He is the sexiest and most voluptuous and
alluring goat in all the world, and he buys ALL of his clothing at Sexy Sadies
Midnight Boutique. Verily, were he standing here beside me, you would not
notice me at all!"

Ali Mohammed somehow or other managed to restrain his lust and passion and allowed
this goat to pass as well and, after ten or twelve minutes when he collected
his wits and got his pulse and breath back under control, returned to his fishing
poles.

Now when the eldest brother amongst the three goats came up to the bridge over
the Syr Daria river and walked upon its wooden planks, Ali Mohammed did not notice
at first, because this goat's hooves, for some reason, made no noise. Ali
Mohammed was in fact taken by complete surprise as this third goat walked up to
within five feet before the troll ever saw him at all. This goat had a silken
veil as did the second goat, and gossamer clothing but, underneath the gossamer,
appeared to be a very strange goat indeed, yellowish with black stripes, a long
tail, fearsome claws, and huge, very non-goatlike teeth. This third goat spoke
these words:



and, with that, seized the unlucky troll in his mighty jaws, chewed him into
bitesized pieces, and wolfed him down.

If you don't 'know' it, why do you keep saying it?

I never said I don't know it. I said my proof was never simply me saying I know it. The evidence that homosexual sex is based on lust, and not love, was presetned on the first page of the thread (post 15), in which not a single person could show fault in. So homosexual sex based on lust is a fact.

You're pretty thick skulled aren't ya?! So, you know that homosexual sex is based on only lust from a First Person based experience? Are you really one of those cliched self-hating closeted gay males?

In other words, you have no logical reasoning to suggest that homosexuality is not based on lust, thus demonstrating your own perverted logic for condoning the act of using another person sexually. Thanks for the clarification.

What is the problem with using another person sexually-- assuming the other person wants to be used sexually of course.

I wish more people would use me sexually.

You keep thinking like that, and you'll be a sexual victim. But then again you sound like a desperate man, so you likely won't mind.

I am under no contractual obligation to challenge or change your brainwashed bigoted ways with logical reasoning (which you would openly ignore if offered to you on a billion euro check and a silver platter). And wow. You are remarkably dense to miss that obvious insult.

Your omission of a retort or denial means one thing. Clearly you're a gay man who has turned aggressively monstrous towards other gay men. IF there is a god overlooking creation and humanity, I bet he has a special place just for the likes of you. Hint: It ain't heaven.

You have provided no evidence of your vile contention.

Sure I can.

Do you understand the term "consenting adult"?

What's wrong with using a person sexually? Are you even asking that question? If I hug a woman to comfort her, this is an act of love, which is o.k. But if I hug a woman, not with the intent to comfort her, but to fulfill my personal crave for affection, then this is absolutely wrong. For I am using her emotionally to satisfy myself. This is the most heinous of acts. To use a person is already a harsh thing to do. But to use someone on an intimate level is a disgrace. Sex is the most intimate of embraces. So to be used for something which is so intimate to someone will naturally be devastating to them. That is why sex based on lust is wrong.

As for consent, the act is still wrong, whether there is consent or not. That's like saying it's okay to sell crack as long as the person consents. Consent does not change the harm, so it is still wrong.

Likewise.

In other words, you can't stomach the fact that your perverted ideology o has been exposed, for homosexuality is based on lust, which is the idea of using a person sexually, which is the same concept behind rape and molestation. So we see clearly you the sick person is.

Response: Yet your inability to prove so supports evidence to the contrary.

I still don't get it.

If a woman has sex with me to fulfill her personal craving for affection, how does that hurt me?

(For the record, I happen to be good at fulfilling personal cravings for affection)

You are saying that a man and a woman having sex to fulfill personal cravings is as "heinous" as two men having sex to fulfill personal cravings, right?

I said to quote my post saying:
"homosexual sex is based on lust because I know homosexual sex is based on lust".

You quote:

I know that homosexuality is based on lust, not love.

We notice the word "because" in the first quote, but not in the second.

Thanks for proving my point that I never stated that homosexual sex is based on lust because I know homosexual sex is based on lust.

You may want to learn English comprehension as well.