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islam and homosexuality

 
 
Al-Fatihah
 
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Reply Mon 24 Dec, 2012 06:11 pm
@ehBeth,
Yet your inability to prove otherwise supports evidence to the contrary.
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Al-Fatihah
 
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Reply Mon 24 Dec, 2012 06:11 pm
@ehBeth,
Then your muslim friend is not following islam and is confused just like you.
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Al-Fatihah
 
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Reply Mon 24 Dec, 2012 06:13 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
All sexual activity is not based on lust. Only for those who like to use others and have selfish desires do so.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Mon 24 Dec, 2012 06:30 pm
@Al-Fatihah,
Al-Fatihah wrote:
Homosexuals themselves state that they are able to love the same sex sexually, but not the opposite. By doing so, they are also acknowledging that there is a difference in the sexual nature of attraction between men and women.

Yes, the difference is that sexual attraction between men and women is heterosexual in nature.

Al-Fatihah wrote:
Yet, if you were to ask a homosexual what is that difference, even they wouldn't be able to answer.

I don't know why. Seems pretty obvious to me. Are you sure you know how this whole sex thing works?
Al-Fatihah
 
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Reply Mon 24 Dec, 2012 08:04 pm
@joefromchicago,
I know that homosexuality is based on lust, not love. So it is dispicable and wrong, since lust involves the idea of using a person sexually and doing so is a degrading act.
djjd62
 
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Reply Mon 24 Dec, 2012 08:16 pm
@Al-Fatihah,
once again, that is what you believe you know

but nothing short of brain surgery is going to change your mind

so goodbye
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Mon 24 Dec, 2012 08:20 pm
@Al-Fatihah,
Al-Fatihah wrote:

I know that homosexuality is based on lust, not love. So it is dispicable and wrong, since lust involves the idea of using a person sexually and doing so is a degrading act.

You're unadulterated bigotry and hatemongering is only matched by your pathetic lack of legitimate education. Three cheers for ignorance, hate, and social fascism. Seig heil Al-Fatihah!
Al-Fatihah
 
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Reply Tue 25 Dec, 2012 08:38 am
@djjd62,
Once again, your inability to refute anything stated supports the fact that homosexuality is based on lust, not love, thus it is wrong. Thanks for the clarification.
Al-Fatihah
 
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Reply Tue 25 Dec, 2012 08:40 am
@tsarstepan,
To the contrary, your condoning of such a disgraceful act like homosexuality is no different that any pervert and molestor who lust. Thus you've done nothing but show that your ideology is a disgrace as well
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Wed 26 Dec, 2012 09:14 am
@Al-Fatihah,
Al-Fatihah wrote:

I know that homosexuality is based on lust, not love.

Yes, we know that you "know" that. The problem, though, is that you appear incapable of coming up with an argument that might convince us to agree with you.

Al-Fatihah wrote:
So it is dispicable and wrong, since lust involves the idea of using a person sexually and doing so is a degrading act.

It's interesting that you approach this from a Kantian perspective.
djjd62
 
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Reply Wed 26 Dec, 2012 09:35 am
@Al-Fatihah,
and your inability to offer anything other than paternal claptrap (men and women can love each other because women need protection, please, this is the 21st century) proves nothing either

you disagree with homosexuality, it's your right to do so, but don't pretend that right is some scientific or absolute moral code, it's not
maxdancona
 
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Reply Wed 26 Dec, 2012 09:55 am
@djjd62,
Well... any rule that comes from God is part of an absolute moral code. I agree that they should leave science out of it.

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Al-Fatihah
 
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Reply Thu 27 Dec, 2012 08:46 am
@joefromchicago,
To the contrary, the problem is that you can't refute the argument presented, thus confiring your denial to the fact that homosexuality is based on lust, not love, making it a dispicable act.
Al-Fatihah
 
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Reply Thu 27 Dec, 2012 08:48 am
@djjd62,
There's no need to pretend anything, when you still can resent an argument to refute anything. So you only support the argument that homosexualty is wrong Thanks for the assistance.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Thu 27 Dec, 2012 08:52 am
@Al-Fatihah,
Are you attempting to suggest that homosexuals do not love their partners/wives/husbands?

How do you explain the desire for same-sex couples to marry? They do not need to be married to indulge in lust.

Why do they want to marry if it is not because they love and respect their partners?
djjd62
 
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Reply Thu 27 Dec, 2012 08:53 am
@Al-Fatihah,
you don't present proofs, all you present are your beliefs of the way the world works

we present ours

none of it is proof, so you believe your stone age view, and we'll continue to live in the modern world
joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 27 Dec, 2012 09:33 am
@Al-Fatihah,
Al-Fatihah wrote:

To the contrary, the problem is that you can't refute the argument presented, thus confiring your denial to the fact that homosexuality is based on lust, not love, making it a dispicable act.

What argument? You say that homosexual sex is based on lust because you know homosexual sex is based on lust. That isn't an argument, that's an ipse dixit. I could just as easily say "all Muslims are idiots because I know all Muslims are idiots." There, try to refute that.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Thu 27 Dec, 2012 10:51 am
@Al-Fatihah,
Do you know that you are a target of the same hatred you are spreading?

One of the horrible things that hate-filled Christians say about Muslims is that they are filled with lust and incapable of love. They talk about child sex slavery (which they claim is rampant in Muslim countries) and about the virgins in paradise thing.

Are Muslims capable of love?
Al-Fatihah
 
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Reply Thu 27 Dec, 2012 12:48 pm
@ehBeth,
The same sex can love each other, but they cannot love each other sexually. The desire to have sex comes from lust, not love. That is why homosexuality is wrong, for lust is the idea of using a person sexually and doing so is a dispicable act.
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Al-Fatihah
 
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Reply Thu 27 Dec, 2012 12:49 pm
@djjd62,
What is not proof can be demonstrated so by showing what is false in it. You haven't done it, nor can you do it, thus supporting the fact that it's proof.
 

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