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Elin Nordegren claims Victim Status

 
 
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2010 08:00 am
@engineer,
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Woods can go public too if he wants.


No. He's too much the gentleman. As gb tried to explain, the only acceptable view of women is their own.
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2010 08:05 am
@engineer,
Quote:
It won't stop people from spreading lies about her, but at least her version of the story is out there. Woods can go public too if he wants.


Lies my rear end and yes he can go public the very thing he had been trying to avoid at all costs up to 7o millions or so of cost.

Bet you believes her claims that she did not attack him either that night as he try to escape in his SUV!!!!!!!!
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2010 08:07 am
@spendius,
Quote:
He's too much the gentleman


Well he did cover up her attack on him and that does seem like a gentlemanly thing to do.
revelette
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2010 08:36 am
@BillRM,
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Well he did cover up her attack on him and that does seem like a gentlemanly thing to do.


Or he could just want all this to go away.

I find it hard to believe Nordengren didn't have at least had a suspicion Woods was going out on her. Usually a spouse knows even if they don't want to fully acknowledge to themselves. I imagine she was embarrassed and knew the shine was off of Woods once this whole story broke out and that is why she finally did something about it. I don’t think it is the place of those outside marriages (even celebrity marriages) to judge what happens between two people in a relationship because no one really knows the complications and private emotions that go on in a relationship behind closed doors.

Nordengren contributed to Tiger Woods status/image as a couple in the public, she has a right to her fair share regardless of what went on in their private lives.
engineer
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2010 10:18 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Lies my rear end and yes he can go public the very thing he had been trying to avoid at all costs up to 7o millions or so of cost.

Bet you believes her claims that she did not attack him either that night as he try to escape in his SUV!!!!!!!!

I'd believe her silly tale about the putter before yours about extortion. You could make your argument without resorting to extreme character assasination against Nordegren, but heck, it's fun to kick people around. Then you wonder why she decides to go public with her story. At least there is now a first hand story out there instead of baseless speculation.
Mame
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2010 11:03 am
@revelette,
Could be she did know about a few of them and had arguments with him, who's to say she didn't know? This may have been a real issue for her, and when it finally broke, and she discovered the extent, became furious and resolved to make him pay. Who knows?
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BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2010 11:05 am
@engineer,
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I'd believe her silly tale about the putter before yours about extortion. You could make your argument without resorting to extreme character assasination against Nordegren, but heck, it's fun to kick people around. Then you wonder why she decides to go public with her story. At least there is now a first hand story out there instead of baseless speculation.


She could had taken the thirty millions and the millions more in child support and gone her way and then there would have been no question of her character.
mysteryman
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2010 11:12 am
She reminds me of that woman Paul McCartney was married to, the one he just divorced.

Married only a few years, then wanted half of everything he had, including what he had before they were married.
When she didnt get it, she went public to blame him for everything.

Yes, Elin got her story out, but its only one side of the story.
The truth lies somewhere between what she says, and what Tiger says.
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engineer
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2010 11:52 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

She could had taken the thirty millions and the millions more in child support and gone her way and then there would have been no question of her character.

Of course there would have been, the exact same questions being posed here. In terms of the Woods' estate, 30 million and 100 million are pretty much the same number so I doubt taking less would have made her pristine in the eyes of those who want to speculate. I was thinking about this over lunch and here is how I figure it went down. Woods' lawyer came to him and said "Mr. Woods, if we take this to court, we might be able to get you off for $10 million. If it goes badly, it might be $500 million. The pre-trial discovery and trial will run around six months and your finances will be all over the news. When the trial starts, several women will be called to testify and there will be negative publicity, hurting your earning potential for a longer period of time. I think I can make this go away for $100 million, no trial, no women testifying and you can get back to golf and eventually commercials." I think Woods acted in his best interest in settling quickly and it was a logical decision. I don't see that it must have been something sinister on his ex's part.
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2010 12:07 pm
@engineer,
Quote:
I think Woods acted in his best interest in settling quickly and it was a logical decision. I don't see that it must have been something sinister on his ex's part.


So after being black mail with the threat of his private life being force all out in the open if he did not agree to paying the sum over the pre-nup he did the logical thing and yielded to the extortion.

Still does not made it any less an extortion or any less wrong for her to do so and that go double now that she is still talking in any case.
Intrepid
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2010 12:10 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

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Extortion? You are joking, right? No, of course you're not. You are just going for dumb.


Of could she did, if you do not shoved money in my direction over what our agreement happen to had been at the beginning of our marriage I will increase your PR problems.

That is extortion.


verb:
1. (crime) obtain through intimidation
2. Obtain by coercion or intimidation
3. Get or cause to become in a difficult or laborious manner

Please provide your source for the alleged threat of PR problems.
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2010 12:19 pm
@Intrepid,
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1. (crime) obtain through intimidation
2. Obtain by coercion or intimidation


That pretty must cover it 100 percent.

If you do not pay me a million for this "play" I will released the information that you had have affairs with your staff members and cause you PR problems or if you do not go along with paying me over our agreement I will drag you name even more in the mud.

Letterman in one case Tigers in the other both deal with causing a PR problem and both are extortions.
Intrepid
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2010 12:22 pm
@BillRM,
What's a poor wife to do?

I am sure that you are fretting your tiny head over this much more than Tiger is or has.
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2010 12:32 pm
@Intrepid,
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What's a poor wife to do?


Honor her agreements to start with.
Mame
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2010 01:05 pm
Bill, you have absolutely no bloody idea what went on between them, before, during, or after the affairs and subsequent settlement. Your speculation and constant obsessing over it is really telling about you, not them. You're so ready to jumping to conclusions you've barely had time to land.

I agree with Intrepid - Tiger's probably over this by now. Why don't you drop it?
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2010 01:23 pm
@Mame,
Mane we are not in a court of law or doing scientific research we are just having fun expressing our opinions.

As far as having no bloody idea of what had happen between them we do know that the pre-nup call for 30 millions by reports that had been out there for many months and never challenge and that by reports not being challenge she did ended up with far more indeed.

We do know that in spite of having ended up with this added windfall she is still going out and doing interviews.

The rest is using simple logical and Occam Razor.



spendius
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2010 01:48 pm
@engineer,
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I think Woods acted in his best interest in settling quickly and it was a logical decision.


There speaks the materialist. Nothing poetic. one long yaaaaaaawn. A bunch of crew-cuts carving it up like so many real-estate deals.

No battle of the Yin/Yang. Think of six months leaking and counter-leaking getting nearer and nearer the bedclothes and then exploding in a frenzy of sordid, disgusting evidence from a string of gold-diggers and our intrepid golfing hero explaining how he had been led by the nose by the greatest power in nature, quoting from Origin of Species from time to time and rolling his eyes occasionally at the more extravagent fictions (cue Camera 7). He could claim his rights under the laws of Genetic Susceptibility at 50 atmospheres of pressure of having a lot of money and staying in his hotel room on his own reading Golf World for the third night. Our Foreign Secretary, Mr William Hauge P.C. has discovered the danger of having a male in one's hotel bedroom whilst touring. Tiger could speculate whether any of the gentlemen in the court-room had ever been tested out under such stringent, experimental conditions of that nature when in the prime of their powers having shot a 64 in the third round to take a four stroke lead that very afternoon. Just how many pitfalls are there in a man's path through that sort of maze? Could any one of the gentlemen in the court lay his hand on his heart and claim he could have escaped. And that anyway it was necessary to keep his swing smooth, graceful and accurate (winks at stern Jury Forewoman knowingly), so that the Stars and Stripes would continue to fly triumphantly at the top of World Golf Rankings. In short-patriotic.

Expert witnesses being called to explain the ins-and-outs of leading an Alpha male by the nose without him realising he is being led by the nose so delicately graduated are the steps in such a process. There's a scene in a bar in Footballer's Wives which brilliantly demonstrates how the spark sets it in motion. The plot of it that followed went too fast for real life. It was crude. Useful nevertheless.
And everybody knows that footballers are not Alpha Males. And that few women can match an English Rose at that game when she's putting her best foot forward for the new boy star signing on his own in the Player's Club on a quiet night.

What's that worth to MediaCorps? Millions of trees, felled, trimmed, carted, crushed, pulped, flattened, dried into flimsy festoons of fresh, virgin white space, rolled up, carted, forked off, and unrolled with ink marks inserted in the passage through the giant machine copied from the transcripts including the "sequence deleted"s and dumped on streetcorners to fly away as fast as the avidity of the reader's curiosity. I'll not discuss TV because you can see the drooling in HD and this is a respectable thread.

The law of Genetic Susceptibility at 50 atm. is a scientific law. It's testable, verifiable and repeatable and is peer-reviewed all to **** for nigh on 5,000 years by the best writers the world has to offer.



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engineer
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2010 04:07 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
I think Woods acted in his best interest in settling quickly and it was a logical decision. I don't see that it must have been something sinister on his ex's part.


So after being black mail with the threat of his private life being force all out in the open if he did not agree to paying the sum over the pre-nup he did the logical thing and yielded to the extortion.

There is a difference between extortion and making a logical conclusion as to the consequences of one's actions. If you are a celebrity and you commit serial adultery with people who have no interest in discretion and you decide to play hardball with your ex, you should expect to play hardball. Deciding to avoid that game when the playing field doesn't favor you and you have a good chance of leaving the game crippled is more a sign of intelligence than blackmail.
Mame
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2010 04:19 pm
@engineer,
You're talking to the deaf, engineer.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Thu 2 Sep, 2010 04:37 pm
Tiger doesn't seem to be too worse for the wear even though he did lose sponsors for his exploits. He's building himself a nice new mansion with a 54 million dollar mortage he plans on paying off by 2016.

http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/blog/devil_ball_golf/post/Tiger-Woods-takes-out-54-million-mortgage-on-ne?urn=golf-266707
 

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