Elin Nordegren claims Victim Status

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I don't see it. Show me.

You asking Hawkeye to show proof of an opinion on what other posters here are expressing in their hundreds of postings?

There is no such thing as perfect equality in practice and it is not even good in theory. Through out history what has worked best is the break down the relationship into smaller parts, with the woman leading some parts and the man the others. The overall general direction setting of the couples efforts has almost always been a male leadership role, and I advocate for it remaining so. Men are better at it, women too often get lead astray by emotions, suffer from clouded judgement.

You think YOU have the ability to speak for all womankind? Now, that's really amazing

In my experience it is rare to get an answer out of a woman that is both honest and clear.

The overall general direction setting of the couples efforts has almost always been a male leadership role, and I advocate for it remaining so. Men are better at it, women too often get lead astray by emotions, suffer from clouded judgement.

Many men CHEAT on their wives

Who comprise the majority of the murderers? Men!

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Many men CHEAT on their wives

Many women cheat on their husbands you point being what?

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Who comprise the majority of the murderers? Men!

Men are indeed far more aggressed on the whole then women that is why you are able to be posting on a worldwide computer network instead of living in a cave for example by a nice fire.

It were not women who push over the next hill or the next ocean or drag the secrets of nature kicking and screaming into the light of day.

It does have it downsize such a higher murder rate however and a war now and then.

Nah, hawk just thinks "no" really means "yes". After all, how could a woman resist him.

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In my experience it is rare to get an answer out of a woman that is both honest and clear.

No, it is the women who gathered the food to feed the man. It is the women who bore the children and raised them. It is the women who provided the clothing and shelter.

HAMLET Get thee to a nunnery: why wouldst thou be a
breeder of sinners? I am myself indifferent honest;
but yet I could accuse me of such things that it
were better my mother had not borne me: I am very
proud, revengeful, ambitious, with more offences at
my beck than I have thoughts to put them in,
imagination to give them shape, or time to act them
in. What should such fellows as I do crawling
between earth and heaven? We are arrant knaves,
all; believe none of us. Go thy ways to a nunnery.
Where's your father?
OPHELIA At home, my lord.
HAMLET Let the doors be shut upon him, that he may play the
fool no where but in's own house. Farewell.
OPHELIA O, help him, you sweet heavens!
HAMLET If thou dost marry, I'll give thee this plague for
thy dowry: be thou as chaste as ice, as pure as
snow, thou shalt not escape calumny. Get thee to a
nunnery, go: farewell. Or, if thou wilt needs
marry, marry a fool; for wise men know well enough
what monsters you make of them. To a nunnery, go,
and quickly too. Farewell.
OPHELIA O heavenly powers, restore him!
HAMLET I have heard of your paintings too, well enough; God
has given you one face, and you make yourselves
another: you jig, you amble, and you lisp, and
nick-name God's creatures, and make your wantonness
your ignorance. Go to, I'll no more on't; it hath
made me mad. I say, we will have no more marriages:
those that are married already, all but one, shall
live; the rest shall keep as they are. To a
nunnery, go.

It was merely an illustration of the antiquity of the nature of things in relation to men who are apt to have temptations thrown their way which it is thus unscientific to set aside by citing those men who are not apt to such suffering and thus prone to take a high moral stance in keeping with their station.

Thou shalt not escape calumny" would show that women's reputations are unfairly attacked such as hawkeye has attacked Elin

She married the guy, she was paying so little attention to him that he (she says) was able to run around with other women and text other women constantly with her remaining clueless