Does size really matter?

If I had a giant schlong, would I care?

I mean, er, wait, wait...

Do I care that I have the intellectual prowess of a muffin?

(See, thats what I wanted to say, of course)

Every blooming idiot is not well-hung. Sometimes a moron is just a moron, to paraphrase Freud.

Hmm....that was a cool penis site, nimh. Now that is the stuff they should be showing us in sex ed! None of these 'surprises'.

I think we all need to see more peni in our lives.

Oh god now you had me going back to that site... I think Ive seen enough erect penises to last me a year now (no, I dont really watch those vids my country is famous for ...)

OK, motion page. The top one strikes me as short and fat. Then again it might look short b/c its fat (its all about proportion). (And the "fat" look might actually just be the angle)

The second one - cant really tell, can you? I mean, its pointing right to you, so, hard to see depth.

The third one - I find it extremely difficult to look at the third one and not be instantly distracted by this weird way the guy is looking down at his penis and then up kinda like whistling da-de-daah I'm not really here.. What is that? Or is it more like, "oooh my, look at that [ie, my own penis]"? Odd, disconcertingly odd.

Page two, the top one is just freaky. Who the f*ck knew penises could look like that? OK, in fully erect state it looks pretty normal actually now that I see it again, but in "rising up" something happens there thats just ... ET. Alien penis.

Second from the top - looks normal to me..

The page three guy looks normal to me too. (Heh - I said "page three guy")

Now on page five, the top guy looks small to me, but the one below looks very big... (if weird). And yet the text says there's only half inch difference. In fact, the one thats pictured three times below that one looks very small to me - yet it says its six-and-a-quarter, right in between the other two. What gives?

It said somewhere that overweight people had, on average, smaller penises, and/or that they just looked smaller. Perhaps thats it, if it was the latter? Cause the top and bottom guys look pretty fat, and the one in between doesnt. (Yay, good news for me!).

So, does measured size not necessarily say all about perceived size? Or am I just weird?

OK thats more than enough penises <nods>.

Now THAT'S a sig line for somebody!

Oh well , i measured up with my wife last night after a session for a bit of fun ( no i didn't compare hers to mine either when i say measured up ) , and things are ok but yes , theres a few shots there that you look at and go WTF and when i saw they were average , the smile came back to my face .

A question for the girls ... my reasoning on wanting an 8 - 9 incher would be for position variety . Im touching the 7 and finding a few moves we've seen in DVDs hard as theres enough length for the reach but just not the enjoyment as its no use when its just the tip of the head in there as it equates to a 1 inch experience for her . Why would i want to try the moves on movies , why would i even compare myself to them you ask ... well after 10 years of marriage , why not introduce a few new things or spice it up and get adverturous , the same sex positions all the time can get boring even if were doing it right ( i had to mention my reasoning as i know id be hit on by many questioning why ... haha )


1 thing that gets me though is knowing your mate is bigger , especially with history involved of past shared women . Hes massive though id assume a 9 and i've heard him throw that number around as well so do believe it but it takes them ages to find condoms at night as they don't sell them at the local shop if you know what i mean but still 1 inch more could kills a guy self esteem . I know this is probably a contradiction to the above paragraph but hey , id still take it as im getting snipped soon anyway so condoms wont be an issue .

On another note , how do women feel about their breasts in the sense of do you feel inadequate or bad standing next to a woman whos bigger / perkier . I can tell you that from my part , and this is where i can understand women here saying if you love a guy penis size doesn't matter too much , but if anyones read 1 of my past posts , Miss X does have very small breasts and its no issue for me on a sexually attractive basis so yeah , breast size doesn't matter to me , its just the whole package that will do it and that package includes personality .

Said my bit , ill just go back in my corner now and be queit again .

Hehheh.

Actually, Ive seen attractive men, even with attractive bodies ... but after this thread and the sites it opened, I think I can safely say that I wont ever consider a penis attractive.

Well, thats that issue solved then

OK, wait .. so lemme riff here ... I am fascinated by this dissonance between perception and reality.

Like, Arthur's Wikipedia page notes this:


Int'resting, no? They're all holding the tape measure by their thing, looking at the number, thinking "no, that cant be true", and holding it just this other way that, suddenly, its half an inch more? Or what? The erectionphotos site actually has a pic of a penis of 6 in erection length even though "in a questionnaire this subject reported his erection length as 8 inches." Two inches extra! How the hell do you get two inches extra??

The five studies the Wiki page then lists - all with staff/researcher-done measurements - have the average size at 5.0, 5.1, 5.7, 5.7 and 5.9 inches (and the last one was done by a condom brand during spring break). The erectionphotos site adds a study of 3,300 Italian soldiers (Ponchietti c.s.) that even found an average of just 4.9 inch. It also keeps saying that the Wessels study, which found a 5.1 inch average (and 4.8 in average circumference) is the most reliable.

All of which is in remarkable contrast with the famous Kinsey study, which relied on self-reporting - and found an average 6 inch.

I find this trippy.

Guys, you know what this means, right? If you ever measured your thingalingie (this thread mighta given you the final push..), you can safely deduct some point-inch from what you found, still. Ha! Take that.

Buttt ... I'd bet that the girl will probably also perceive that half-inch extra or so... especially if she's diggin you. I mean, take Mame. (No, I meant figuratively.) She and Onyx were agreeing that 6-7 inch is fine, 5 inch, err.. and less than that, not much use. But when she looked at the pics of actual erections, she said "I don't think the men in my life were bigger than those". Or Shewolf - she's seen 100s of penises yet thinks "the norm seems to be around 6-7 inches long", which means, if we are to believe the research, she is consistently imagining an inch extra :wink:.

Cognitive dissonance everywhere. Aint the human mind amazing?

Very insightful, Nimh. Kudos to you. Thank you for sharing that.

Just FYI, I did NOT like those on page 5!


(yeah, I KNOW you care!) heh heh

Hee ... I did a nimh job on penises. Now thats nerdness.


You know Flush I have a problem with your avatar now... after this thread, your avatar just is the "oh my isnt that a big boy" look.


Ha! I found out. Check this page on the erectionphotos site and look at the second pic from the top. He's all pulling his skin out, and the ruler in, to get a maximum reading ... hee. As the moderator notes, "The ruler shows 8 in. But [..] someone else measuring this penis might have gotten nearer 6 in." Busted!

Boys

well common sense would tell you its to the tip of the nob .

Theres allot going in that site showing dicks before and after erection , thats crap and never constant , mine will go from anything down to about 4cm cold and then if its warm and comfy sometimes its full length on a flop and when i actually do get the erection it just lifts and gets fatter , if ive just gotten out of a cold swim though forget it , get the magnifying glass out to find it .

Its all deceiving .

<sigh>

ya gotta go and pull out the great sites when I cant take a peek huh?





( bean is in my lap.... aint a time for sex ed I tell ya what... )

Nothing wrong with that.
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Boys! is right. Wow; I feel like I have more compassion for men now. Some of these stories are sad I grew up "hiding" my penis and to a large degree lost out many social sports activities due to a great nervousness from showering in front of other men with larger penises. I'd guess there are quite a few men who have felt that way at some point, or something. And the guy saying it looks perfectly fine to me.

Just a personal side note: I have never seen one of those 'watch me grow!' ones before...I mean, like the dude who is the last picture on that page. That's wild.

Ah men! Such lovely variety.

I've heard it put that "some people are showers and some people are growers". I don't remember where I read that, but it's true enough. Some people are nearly as long when flacid as they are when erect, and some people are considerably shorter when limp and grow. This was written in the context of trying to help men to feel less insecure when they see other men in the shower at the gym or wherever that are very well hung, that what you see may be what they have to offer. Some grow a lot, and some grow a little.
What you have is what you have. Nothing can change that (yet).

true , its length is always the same but yep , it can flop to its length and then just comes to attention and ballons .

So to cut a long satory short , if i was on the beach whth the budgie smuglers on i wouldnt be going for a swim ... shrivle ... lol ... dont you remember the George Castanza episode .

No kidding. Seriously, I think I've read more about penises, and seen more of them, these two evenings then ever before. And I never knew.

I mean, myself, Ive never had any issue -- from a passing comment of the ladies here and there I knew I was smaller than some ex-boyfriend and larger than another - I was guessing I was slightly less than average. Never thought much about it. Turns out to be slightly more than average. Well, great.

But some of these stories. On the erectionphotos site and on the one Arthur linked in earlier - the one that plays fast-n-loose with statistics to shock small-willy owners into accepting their condition (this one: penissizedebate.com.) Jesus how sad! So many men so caught up in insecurity, anxiety, stress about this all, up to where it consumed them. Kept them from socialising, even trying to date. Messed up their life. Goddamn.

Here, read Jake's Pix and Thoughts on page 4 of erectionphoto's Visitors gallery. Its a whole therapeutic testimonial thingie of a man with a small penis and a complex about it, deciding to take photos and send them in. It actually changed his life - to where he finally stood up to the bully employee he hadnt dared face down all those years, and everything! It's actually kind of moving.

And I can now even see how it works, too! I've never spent much thought on the whole issue, and even I started to get self-conscious when browsing through that penissizedebate site. It basically tries, omitting some data and conjuring up unverifiable others, to convince truly small-willy owners that hey - anything below seven is less than ideal, anyway, and below six is actually small - so just give up even thinking about satisfying a woman with your penis already, and learn to just enjoy yourself knowing that. I think thats kind of the idea behind it, anyway; on the "main purpose" page, the author says "I slam them with generalized and simplified (and exaggerated) statements about what women want and feel sexually [..] And I make sure to rub it in over and over. [..] The goal is to let them tear down the doubts [..] and start with a fresh plate." It even has an "Authentic Women's Penis Size Preference Chart" (LOL), that actually puts the average of the Wessels study in "not satisfying: too small in length and girth" territory!

Then there's the Wikipedia page that recounts penis size episodes in Sex and the City - heh. But it concludes: "The media image of women's preference may have had an impact on some average sized men, and caused even more damage to below-average sized men who are likely already self conscious. In recent years, penis pumps, pills, and other dubious means of penis enlargement have had increased sales. [..] The media have been criticized for making "penis envy" into a male body issue equivalent to Cosmopolitan Magazine being criticized for their coverage of women's weight."

Are they right? Will tomorrow's men worry about penis size as much as women worry about their breasts or weight? I dunno. But after reading all these stories it's sure easier to put yourself in those ever-fretting women's shoes..

Perhaps there need to be, like, "The Penis Monologues"? That's the space that other site ventures into. The page after the small-willy man who Changed His Life, there's someone who sorta blogged his adult circumcision operation. Sounds yucky, but its actually kinda interesting. And it makes you feel VERY fortunate with your own health. Something you take for granted, but that comes down to something as err, fundamental as not having needles stuck in your penis. And being able to have sex (or, ok, masturbate..).

I guess this was kinda what the "Finally, men talk about their penises" thread was intended to get to... Who knew, eh? Fascinating, really..

Welcome to the world of the average woman, comparing/contrasting, ever scrutinizing herself.

just like there are different size peni ( HA! that is my word for the week... PEEEEEnnniiiii) any who

there are different size vaginas.

Statistically speaking, black women have the largest, where as asian women have the smallest.

Follow those same style statistics, and you have black MEN with the largest peni, and asian men with the smallest..


hmmm

nature rises to the occasion

erections in motion...

<sigh>
i like #4 .........


It made me remember the ....... oddest ( is that a real word? ) penis I have ever seen in my life.

Wont tell the story as to HOW i saw it, that would be even odder...


BUT

Thin, long.
Thin like a permanent marker thin..
VERY long, I could easily say it was about 7 inches long.
And his head....... when erect.... was almost on top of his shaft.
It pointed straight up. His head was out of proportion with the rest of his penis, in that it was very fat.
Almost like a small sweet tomato on the end of a hot dog stick.




just had to share that story











as you were..

Hmmm so thats why you see so few black woman / white man combos out ...

(Or Asian men / white women..)

And pppphhrrrttt... its penises. Its not one penus, so its not two peni either.