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Mid-life crisis

 
 
FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jun, 2006 07:28 am
It's ok smorgs. Sometimes we need to wallow in it for a while. I'm really sorry about what you're going through. Hopefully though, when you come out on the other side, you'll be better for it. Go ahead and analyze it to death, work through every uncomfortable memory, beat yourself up, forgive yourself, and then forgive him. There's no set time limit so take your time. And we are here to listen.
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smorgs
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jun, 2006 07:34 am
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It's ok smorgs. Sometimes we need to wallow in it for a while


Didn't mean to wallow...

The thread just struck a nerve that's all. I'm trying not to talk to my friends or family about it, until I feel stronger, so I've no-one to discuss it with!

Sarah
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jun, 2006 07:45 am
Hi there, Sarah! Very Happy

So, he's over the other relationship & wants to return?

Take your time in working out what you want to do. You might just surprise yourself & decide on something completely different to what you'd expected.
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smorgs
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jun, 2006 07:51 am
I hear you msolga, I'm taking my time, I'm thinking...

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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jun, 2006 07:56 am
I certainly wish I'd done a bit more serious alone thinking at the time, Sarah. Some time spent away from the scrambled brained person till "the troubles" had subsided would definitely been wiser! (Says she, with the wisdom of hindsight!)
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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jun, 2006 08:03 am
... & when I say "alone" time, I include a really good counsellor in that! Sometimes, when you're in the middle of such stressful situations, it's really difficult to detach yourself sufficiently to see the situation clearly. My counsellor saved my bacon!
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jun, 2006 08:31 am
smorgs wrote:
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It's ok smorgs. Sometimes we need to wallow in it for a while


Didn't mean to wallow...

The thread just struck a nerve that's all. I'm trying not to talk to my friends or family about it, until I feel stronger, so I've no-one to discuss it with!

Sarah
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No no, sorry, I didn't mean it negatively. Please feel free to wallow. Maybe wallow wasn't the right word.
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smorgs
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jun, 2006 09:57 am
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No no, sorry, I didn't mean it negatively. Please feel free to wallow. Maybe wallow wasn't the right word.


No, no, you read me wrong, Ducky, I was glad of your post, I didn't take ANY kind of offence, when I was posting I thought it sounded a bit 'wallowy' myself!

I just feel that if I talk to family and friends now, they will give me advice I may not want to follow, they will form a judgement on him, based on how much I'm hurting, it's only natural. I prefer to think it through first. Like msolga, I am in counselling too, all I can say that it is helping alot. But the decision is ultimately mine - but posting and reading this thread is helping as well...it's anonymous and yet personal.

Sometimes the comfort of strangers is a very good thing.

Sarah
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eoe
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jun, 2006 10:03 am
smorgs, that is truly the wise thing to do. I learned that lesson the hard way, crying on my mothers' shoulder about how bad my boyfriend was treating me. I went back to him, forgave him, but my mother never did. He was **** in her book FOREVER.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jun, 2006 10:36 am
I totally understand that, smorgs. I meant to be encouraging you to do that since I know how therapeutic it can be. I meant to say, we're here to listen and this is as good a place to do it as any.
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eoe
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jun, 2006 10:56 am
Sometimes better... Smile
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smorgs
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jun, 2006 11:16 am
Thank you duck - your words are very much appreciated.

I so know what you mean eoe, I have done that myself with my daughters boyfriend...it's hard not too, your family will always take your side, they don't want to see you hurt, and will rarely look at the bigger picture.
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Freedomelf
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jun, 2006 01:37 pm
I know I seem very naive and stupid to many people here, and I have to admit, I was for a very long time. But I believe that it is equally stupid to go in the opposite direction now, especially with someone who has been your constant companion, best friend, and supporter for the past 20 years.

This IS a real condition, and it DOES cause a madness that is virtually impossible to control. Do all men get it? Nope.....but all men don't get cancer either. Does that mean the ones who do are somehow more responsible for the illness? Some of the people who have replied here seem to believe that it isn't and just think I should chuck the whole relationship and tell my boys to do the same with their father. I can't, and I won't. Simple as that.

According to some studies, 40% of married men cheat once. And 85% of them regret it. I don't believe that a single mistake can cause a person to become valueless and absolute garbage to their partner. It has to be more to it than that. And a person who is so unforgiving that they can't see that, well....I kinda feel sorry for them. To be honest, I would RATHER live my life as a naive, stupid, faithful optimistic person, than as a suspicious, unforgiving, and hard-hearted person. In the first case, I may get badly hurt by others. In the second, I would badly hurt myself, by making myself the kind of person that I don't want to be.

Hubby and I talked about so many things last night. He said he wanted to start from scratch, with nothing hidden anymore. He told me things that he lied about these past few months that I would have NEVER found out about, and that really made me angry. But he said that if he didn't tell me, it would eat him alive as it has been for a long time. I found out so much that he lied to me about recently, that I wish I didn't know....but I do believe that he is saying it because the madness is subsiding, and he knows that he is going to lose everything if he keeps doing what he did, and being dishonest.

I am certain he was being honest last night....there is just too much that makes sense now, but that I wouldn't have found out if he hadn't said it. And he KNEW that it would make me angry, and make him have even more trust issues with him. But at the very least, it showed me that he really was doing what he said he was doing.....starting from scratch, with no more lies whatsoever.

The other woman sent me an email saying that she bets I am gloating now that I have won. She tells me that he will be back with her within a month....he won't be able to help himself. Well, I guess we'll see.

He also told me last night that yes, he still has feelings for her, but he does know in his heart who he really loves, and that it is me. But he is willing to wait weeks or months to get me back, and he will sleep in the guest room for as long as it takes. He doesn't want to rush me, because he knows he has hurt me too much. I believe he means what he says at the moment, but we will have to see if he misses her. I don't know what will happen, but I do know that I am going to wait to find out, now that he is back home.

Phoenix, you have a good head on your shoulders and I thank you for the support. And noddy, JB, Tino and others, I really do appreciate all that you have told me, and I am learning a lot from all of you. But I really don't need to be told from others that I am an idiot. You don't know what my husband is really like. You don't know what you would do in my situation......heck, I think back and LAUGH now at the advice I gave my best friend, when her husband wanted to go and meet a woman that he met in a sex chat room. He hadn't even been unfaithful to her yet, but said that he had "fallen in love" with this woman in the chat room, and that he was leaving his wife for this cyber-relationship. I told her at the time that I didn't think I could ever be happy with a man who had developed such strong feelings for someone else....that it would always cause an insecurity that would ruin the relationship. I told her it was best to forget him. GOD I WAS AN IDIOT! Thank GOD she didn't follow my advice. It is 2 years later, and they are getting along much better now. She forgives me for my advice, and is trying not to give me the same advice now.

If anyone believes that I don't know that things have changed forever, that isn't true. As I said, there will be an insecurity for a long, long time, and we will have to work through trust issues continually. I will take nothing for granted in the future....when in the past I took everything for granted. I used to joke that if I ever caught my husband in bed with someone, I would know that it was a look-alike he hired as an April Fool prank. I'll never make such a joke again....and knowing that hurts. Security is out the window.

But does that mean that EVERYTHING is out the window? Nope.....there is still a heck of a lot here. There is a genuine and abiding love.....not just on my part but on HIS part too, believe it or not. Remember he CHOSE to come home to me after living with a woman who is a LOT younger, thinner, sexier and prettier than me, and who is new, interesting and excitingly mysterious. But he chose ME and broke off with her. Yes, there is love on his part.

There is a family with children who still need their father. There is a hard-working man who supports his family and would never dream of drinking, taking drugs or laying a hand to me or anyone else. There is a man who cannot bear to walk by a beggar without pulling out a dollar, or who will not stop to help if he sees a stranded motorist with an open hood. There is someone who provided me with a comfortable lifestyle when I chose to leave my teaching job 3 years ago to homeschool our son. There is a shared joy in both of us liking the same kinds of hobbies, movies and music. There is the knowledge that his family supports me, and my mother loves him dearly and vice versa.

THERE IS A LOT HERE!!!! And I'm not willing to grab my boys and walk away from that, to find a job, stick my son in a new school and disrupt his life, and change everything completely, simply because people hate my husband without knowing him. Sorry if I am getting emotional.....I do understand that everyone is trying to help, and I bear no ill will against anyone. I'm just saying that this is my life, and I have to do what is best for me and my family. And there are people who really don't know what is best for me, telling me that there is something "wrong with me" if I am staying. On the contrary, I believe there is something wrong with a woman who can be so hard-hearted that a couple months of madness can make her forget 20 years of goodness, kindness, honesty and passion. That's just my 2 cents. I hope no one gets mad. Smile
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Freedomelf
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jun, 2006 01:38 pm
and smorg and duck, thank you too. I hope it didn't sound like I was being mean to you. Smile
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jun, 2006 01:52 pm
You are welcome. I hope I didn't come across as insulting -- I didn't mean to be, and certainly didn't mean to imply that you are an idiot. I hope it all turns out well for your family. Feel free to dump your feelings out here whenever need to.
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Freedomelf
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jun, 2006 01:56 pm
hugs, free, and no you didn't. I just didn't want to name names as far as who I thought was a bit insulting. It certainly wasn't you. Smile
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jun, 2006 02:40 pm
Freedomelf- I think that you know yourself, your husband, and your family, and have made a thoughtful decision. Now only time will tell whether you and your husband can have a successful go at it, "the second time around".

I am heartened by the fact that your husband chose to "come clean" with you. I think that it took a lot of courage on his part, and tells me that he is really attempting to be a person of his word.

I wish you, your husband and your kids the very best. There may be some difficulties at first, but from what I know of you, you are a strong woman, and will be able to weather this part of your life. You know that we are always here to give you encouragement through the rough spots.

One thing though, and this is my personal opinion. I don't think that there should be any contact with Brenda, either by you, or your husband. If that means changing your phone number, or and/or getting a different E Mail address, I think that it would be wise if you did that. You and your husband now have to present as a united front, and Brenda will only serve to muddy the waters.

I think that your husband is a very lucky man to get that second chance. Many in his position don't. From what you have said, it sounds to me that he is basically a good guy, who got temporarily sidetracked. Now it is his job to prove to you that he is the man that you believe he is.

Years ago, I heard this story, which was some guidance given to a teenager, who was going on a date, and was very anxious about it. Her mother looked at her, and told her that the best advice that she could give her was on a jar of mayonaise.

A few hours later, the girl was making a sandwich for lunch. The words on the mayonaise jar leaped out at her. It said:

"Keep cool, but don't freeze"!

I think that there is some wisdom in that advice! Very Happy
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smorgs
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jun, 2006 03:33 pm
...not at all freedom, it's all good, I like the way this thread has prgressed, it has made me think an awful lot about things - made me look at all sides and consider...

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Freedomelf
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jun, 2006 03:37 pm
smorgs, I truly hope that whatever happens turns out to be the best for you in the long run. I'll cross my fingers and toes for both of us. Smile
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Eva
 
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Reply Fri 9 Jun, 2006 03:59 pm
Freedomelf...I hope you didn't consider any of my remarks to be insulting. I certainly never meant to be. I was very angry on your behalf...and still am! From your posts, you appear to be a very loving, committed partner. I think you deserve better than this.

Many of us (yes, US! Me, too!) go through phases like your husband has experienced, but we don't act on our impulses. None of us can control our feelings, but we CAN control what we do. Please don't excuse your husband's behavior on the basis that he couldn't control himself. He could have, but he chose not to. This is a subject worthy of counseling, IMO.

I do believe you are making the right decision concerning your marriage and your family, and your last post shows that you are doing so with open eyes and a clear mind. This is very, very good. I wish you the best of luck, knowing that you have a tough road ahead of you filled with lots of ups and downs. For your sake, and even more for your sons' sake, I hope your husband stays the course.
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