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Questions about Homosexuality

 
 
Lash
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2006 08:00 pm
Rex--

That was....cool.

I might insert "the same," instead of "equal," but I loved your sentiment.
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echi
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2006 08:40 pm
RexRed wrote:
echi wrote:
Lightwizard wrote:
There are many studies on pheromones and gay people. It strongly points to the fact that gay men are attracted to male pheromones rather than female (true, disguised too often with heavy perfume!) Thanks RexRed.


Does that prove something?


It might prove that all men are not created equal... Smile Neither are all women created equal... We are all individuals and there is neither male nor female but all are one in the unity of our species.

Right. Good point.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2006 09:15 pm
Lash wrote:
Rex--

That was....cool.

I might insert "the same," instead of "equal," but I loved your sentiment.


Yes, that part could have been worded more precisely... thanks for the observation...

Maybe unique is better than equal...
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2006 09:23 pm
I'm getting a strong drift of male pheromones even through cyperspace from this thread. Someone needs a shower.

It means that, as any professional physician (even my GP came up with it!) would tell you, we are all wired differently. Men and women are wired differently as a start. Each individual in each sex is wired differently -- we are not all identical little fleshy robots. Let's just say that the sexual response to male pheromones by another male is not complete evidence but it's a tag that not one of us is 100% "normal" to begin with. We are born with different eye color, different body types (maybe flat feet?), et al, that are results of genetics. Sexual attraction is one of wiring diagrams and it isn't a mistake in wiring -- nature doesn't really make "mistakes." It's a control freak issue to me -- that there are those that want to direct what is going on in the stage and they are frustrated and angry when it's not going the way they planned. That's an egotism I frankly do not understand, except perhaps in Stalin or Hitler or an alcoholic. The problem is the tyranny of religion that pulls clever little dissertations out of a book that has been written by a arcane committee. You know the book, it's the one that's was written from a dictation machine spoken into by the holy spirit. I think some of them were on spirits when the wrote it.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2006 09:23 pm
< I just have a weird thing about all people being created equal >

< in value >

< but, I'm obsessed with that-- don't mind me >

Smile
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2006 09:24 pm
Some people are more equal than others, Lash.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2006 09:25 pm
<Don't make me come over there!>

Smile
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2006 09:30 pm
Be careful not to pull out your plug. You'll collapse.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2006 09:32 pm
OK, you win. I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2006 09:35 pm
Just playing around with the "wiring" analogy.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2006 09:43 pm
I don't get to be internally wired, like everybody else...?
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2006 09:44 pm
You're usually wired in the true sense of the word.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2006 09:45 pm
<sighs wistfully>

Don't I wish....
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2006 09:46 pm
...and what are you doing home on a Saturday evening? My excuse -- hooked on hi def and Castle Rock Pinot Noir.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2006 09:47 pm
My excuse-- PM material.

Sending.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2006 09:59 pm
I know you like your wine. Try the Castle Rock 2004 Pinot -- it's about $12.00 and well worth it. It makes me feel a bit "sideways" sometimes, however.
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echi
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2006 10:19 pm
Lightwizard wrote:
It means that, as any professional physician (even my GP came up with it!) would tell you, we are all wired differently. Men and women are wired differently as a start. Each individual in each sex is wired differently -- we are not all identical little fleshy robots. Let's just say that the sexual response to male pheromones by another male is not complete evidence but it's a tag that not one of us is 100% "normal" to begin with.

I don't think it is evidence, at all. It's just a doctor saying that some guys are aroused by other guys. I don't think anyone needs any more evidence for that. But, whatever... no big deal.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2006 10:28 pm
It is a clue just like any clue to what was an anomaly that many people still have a blind spot in understanding. If it's no big deal it's because other people's sexual practices, if not harming another non-consenting person, is nobody's business but their own. The sodomy laws have been struck down in the US many years after they were struck down in nearly every civilized countries that are not still despotically shackled in the past. Remember the pink triangles in Nazi Germany? Should we have a country that resembles that government in any way, shape or form?

Relax, it's just sex, in other words.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2006 11:12 pm
Just reading this thread.
Interesting about the pheromone thing.
I remember learning about pheromone receptors, or somesuch, years ago, and have at this point some vague idea that they are related to sense of smell. Huh. I have an an acutely diminished sense of smell. Does anyone else remember the physiology?

Not to hijack - please consider this an aside.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 19 Mar, 2006 05:24 am
There is a vast chemical component that interacts on a cellular level between biology. One can argue that we selectively choose how we are going to interpret these chemicals. It seems that sensitivity to chemicals is genetic but the genetics themselves are chemicals too...

So is thought controlled by chemicals or are chemicals controlled by thought?

Should thought contradict the chemical persuasion or should the chemicals persuade the thought or brain?

How much control does the mind have over chemistry? Can the mind change the sex of a person? Can the mind choose to be sound or insane? Can the mind alter the physical body or does the physical body alter the mind?
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