Clemency for Tookie?

"I am sorry however that they put him to death, I think he got off easy!"

Are you another "he should have been tortured to death" advocate Steviepax. (Pax?)

McGentrix, Tookie was innocent. He was framed. The real killer got away with it. As for FDR, JFK and Clinton, they are gone. Bushie cant hide behind them. He's very much under the gun for lying us into war and his days are spent trying to convince America that he really, really didn't lie us into war. Americans are not buying that by a wide margin.

I can't imagine that being locked up all the time and being subject to brutalization by anyone bigger than me would be "easy," but I haven't been there, either...

Steve, that's right. Before he was put to death new tests should have been made on the shotgun shell and shotgun as requested many times by the defense. What harm could have been done?

Steve, the physical evidence was questioned many times over the years. It was far from a last minute request. The State fought and won against having a real investigation of the physical evidence. What were they scared of? Having their frame-up revealed. The original ruling by the States forensic expert was that the shell could not be proven to have come from the shotgun. He changed his story after being pressured by the prosecutor. And still never conducted any real tests. The real killer was not charged in this case.

The firearms examiner did not testify that Williams' shotgun had been the murder weapon, but rather that the murders had been committed with a weapon "not inconsistent with" a weapon of the caliber, make, and specific model of the shotgun siezed from Williams and conclusively proved, via official firearms sale and transfer documentation, to have been purchased by Williams. Ammunition from the same production lot as that of the spent casing recovered from one murder scene also was siezed with the shotgun. No other murder or other criminal investigation contemporary with the Williams murders investigations implicated a firearm of that specific type, nor was there any open theft report involving the theft of a weapon of that type. Only a weapon of that specific type could have produced the markings found on the recovered casing, with or without particular characteristics linking to any one specific weapon of the type.

...life in prison would be worse than a "Get out of jail free" card.

ILZ, what is your input on tookie(I hope people notice that I don't even capatalize his name) and the events.

I have been to prison, and it sucks, but it's preferable to death by far. If it wasn't people wouldn't be fighting tooth and nail to avoid the death penalty.

I have been to prison, and it sucks, but it's preferable to death by far. If it wasn't people wouldn't be fighting tooth and nail to avoid the death penalty.

IronLionZion wrote:

I have been to prison, and it sucks, but it's preferable to death by far. If it wasn't people wouldn't be fighting tooth and nail to avoid the death penalty.

Like I said, we make it way too comfortable for the inmates. If I were running it, they would WISH they were dead.