baseball MVP & CY YOUNG: who do you like?

anybody else wanna take a stab at it?
award winners should be announced in a week or two...

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@fbaezer,

Gonna crib a bit.

Cy Young
NL
Roy Halliday or Tim Lincecum

AL
Cliff Lee

MVP
NL
helfino

AL
Josh Hamilton or Robinson Canó

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[bump] i think award winners will be announced this week... [/bump]

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As for Rookie of the Year, in the AL Neftalí Feliz was a dead giveaway. The NL had the best generation of rookies in ages. I think Buster Posey deserved the award (but hiperhyped Jason Hayward got too many votes and Jaime García got too few).

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Halladay wins NLCY unanimously*...

Code:

Player           Points     1st Place Votes 

Roy Halladay     224          32* 

Adam Wainwright  122           0 

Ubaldo Jimenez    90           0

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despite winning a measly 13 games, Hernandez wins ALCY convincingly...

Code:

Player           Points    1st Place Votes 

Felix Hernandez    167         21 

David Price        111          4 

CC Sabathia        102          3

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Good, justice was served in the Cy Young Award. I'm now not only 2 for 2, but went 1-2-4 for the NL and 1-2-3 for the AL.
I honestly think Pujols will be 2nd for the NL MVP vote and Carlos González will be 3rd, but I stick to my choices- for this is not a prediction game, but a place for personal opinions.

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@fbaezer,

i still can't wrap my mind around this -- i guess i'm a baseball purist.

there's no effing way 13-12 should get you a cy young... i don't care how low your ERA is, how many K's, innings pitched, WHIP, ect.
the object is to win the game.
if you're team can't hit, gives you minimal run support, then you've got to go out there and throw a shutout.

if felix is such a great pitcher, he should have won more of those games.
his team should have tried harder to help him win more of those games...

[/end rant]

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glad to see that the NLCY winner shares my view...

Quote:

Halladay, who was a much easier pick (unanimous decision!) wouldn't say, for sure, what he'd do if he was voting with the baseball writers, though he seemed to lean against Hernandez.

"I think the guys that are winning and are helping their team, I think deserve a strong look regardless how good Felix's numbers are," he said. "When teams bring guys over, they want them to ultimately, at the end of the day, help them win games."

(Detroit News)

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@Region Philbis,

The only part I agree with your rant is "his team should have tried harder to help him win more of those games..."-

Félix had 31 quality starts in 2010.
Not just your average "quality start".
He shut his opponents 6 times (but only won 4 of those games, 2 no decisions).
Two complete games allowing one run (won both).
5 times he threw 8 innings, allowing one run (3 wins, 1 no decision, 1 loss)
Twice, 7 innings and one run allowed (1 win, 1 no decision)
Three times, 7 innings and 2 runs allowed (one no decision, 2 losses).

He was the best pitcher in 2010.
Not his fault that the rest of the team sucked bad time.

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@fbaezer,

comparing his stats to last year's, i'd say he was more deserving last year.

the argument given by some of the voters is that the CY is to be awarded to the "best" pitcher, not the "most valuable".

i guess i can concede that point, but can you honestly say felix was the most valuable pitcher in the AL?

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@Region Philbis,

I've always understood that the Cy Young goes to the best pitcher, and the MVP to the most valuable player (who can also be a pitcher).
I don't think there is an argument about that.

With that in mind, of course King Felix was not the MVPitcher; no one in Seattle can be. He may have helped the Mariners a lot, but he couldn't even help them to lose less than 100 games in the season.

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@Region Philbis,

Region Philbis wrote:

comparing his stats to last year's, i'd say he was more deserving last year.

fbaezer last year wrote:

Time is ripe (methinks).

Cy Young:
AL
1. Zach Greinke
2. C.C. Sabathia
3. Félix Hernández

I think both Greinke and Pujols are no-brainers.

He would have gotten my vote last year too, but then there was Greinke

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@fbaezer,

in '09...
greinke was 16-8, 2.16 ERA
felix was 19-5, 2.49 ERA

looking at it now, felix might've had a better year.
greinke was getting more pub though...

this year...
felix was 13-12, 2.27 ERA
price was 19-6, 2.72 ERA
buchholz was 17-7, 2.33 ERA (he got almost no votes)

i still say the voting shoulda been closer than it was this year...

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Quote:

Reds' Joey Votto is NL MVP

Cincinnati's Joey Votto is the overwhelming choice as the National League's Most Valuable Player.

The Reds' first baseman received 31 first-place votes and 443 points in voting announced Monday
by the Baseball Writers' Association of America.

St. Louis Cardinals first baseman Albert Pujols was second with the remaining first-place vote and 279 points.
He won the award in 2005, 2008 and 2009.

Votto was a first-time All-Star. He finished second in the NL in average at .324 and third in homers (37) and RBIs (113).

Colorado's Carlos Gonzalez was third in the vote with 240 points. He was followed by San Diego's Adrian Gonzalez (197),
Colorado's Troy Tulowitzki (132) and Phillies pitcher Roy Halladay (130).

(espn)

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@Region Philbis,

Roy shoulda had more votes than that...

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@Rockhead,

pitchers don't garner much consideration for MVP.
pitching every 5th day doesn't help...

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@Region Philbis,

without him, the Phillies don't make the playoffs.

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@fbaezer,

fbaezer wrote:

My take (noticing that the Cy Young award is for the best pitcher in the league, regardless of his team standings, while the MVP award somehow takes into account the player's contribution into making a contender out of his team).

MVP
NL
1. Joey Votto
2. Adrián González
3. Carlos González

The Gonzálezes fate depends a bit on how their teams finish. I think Votto has a strong lead, while Pujols, always great, and who'll anyway get a lot of votes, wasn't enough to make the Cards contend.

fbaezer wrote:

I honestly think Pujols will be 2nd for the NL MVP vote and Carlos González will be 3rd, but I stick to my choices- for this is not a prediction game, but a place for personal opinions.

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