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Further Discussion About Covid-19 and the Covid-19 Crisis 2020

 
 
izzythepush
 
  1  
Tue 28 Apr, 2020 04:48 pm
@revelette3,
revelette3 wrote:


Guess it was four days ago.


It was a different time.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  0  
Tue 28 Apr, 2020 06:18 pm
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glitterbag
 
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Tue 28 Apr, 2020 06:27 pm
@livinglava,
livinglava wrote:


What do you want to discuss here, diseases and pathogens or homophobic discrimination?


You are never interested in discussion, you just like to swoop in and nitpick everything said by others because apparently only YOU really really know what others ares thinking. And we are all grateful for your relentless criticism, let me guess??? School teacher - elementary??
bobsal u1553115
 
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Tue 28 Apr, 2020 06:47 pm
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livinglava
 
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Tue 28 Apr, 2020 07:02 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

livinglava wrote:


What do you want to discuss here, diseases and pathogens or homophobic discrimination?


You are never interested in discussion, you just like to swoop in and nitpick everything said by others because apparently only YOU really really know what others ares thinking. And we are all grateful for your relentless criticism, let me guess??? School teacher - elementary??

I just read and discuss what I read.

I read your post about diseases and pathogens as well as about homophobic discrimination, so I'm asking which one you want to discuss.
chai2
 
  3  
Tue 28 Apr, 2020 07:12 pm
@livinglava,
livinglava wrote:


I just read and discuss what I read.




No you don't.

You read then turn it into whatever it is you want to talk about.

That's why you get so many thumbs down.

Now you'll tell me where I'm wrong.

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chai2
 
  3  
Tue 28 Apr, 2020 07:13 pm
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:


You are never interested in discussion, you just like to swoop in and nitpick everything said by others because apparently only YOU really really know what others ares thinking. And we are all grateful for your relentless criticism,


Shhhhh.....the air is very rare up there.
Don't disturb the gods.
livinglava
 
  -2  
Tue 28 Apr, 2020 07:23 pm
@chai2,
chai2 wrote:

You read then turn it into whatever it is you want to talk about.

That's why you get so many thumbs down.

Now you'll tell me where I'm wrong.

You are telling me where I'm wrong, but you insult me ore-emptively for telling you where you're wrong before I even do?

And that wins thumbs-ups? I'm glad I don't win thumbs-ups if it means creating bad discussion content.
livinglava
 
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Tue 28 Apr, 2020 07:24 pm
@chai2,
chai2 wrote:

Shhhhh.....the air is very rare up there.
Don't disturb the gods.

What's the air like in sarcasm heaven? Is the air of clever put-downs sweet?
chai2
 
  3  
Tue 28 Apr, 2020 07:28 pm
My we're sensitive.

Someone got a lot of participation awards and "good job!!! britney"s growing up, didn't they?

Now you're in the Thunderdom.
JGoldman10
 
  0  
Tue 28 Apr, 2020 07:34 pm
Hi. I was just told by two people the U.S. government issued a decree stating people don't have to worry about paying their rent for the next two months, or something along these lines. Is this correct?
bobsal u1553115
 
  1  
Tue 28 Apr, 2020 08:00 pm
@JGoldman10,
I'd be VERY surprised if that were true, not that it shouldn't be true. No one should be in fear of losing housing for circumstances beyond their control. I think this present emergency should qualify. But we're living in the days of Trump and I got mine - **** you "Christianity".
bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Tue 28 Apr, 2020 09:02 pm
Beloved teacher, 30, dies of coronavirus after twice being denied a test
1 hr ago

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/beloved-teacher-30-dies-of-coronavirus-after-twice-being-denied-a-test/ar-BB13lh6R?ocid=spartanntp

A beloved 30-year-old middle school social studies teacher from Brooklyn has died of COVID-19 following a month-long battle, after twice being turned away for testing before eventually being diagnosed with the virus.

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Rana Zoe Mungin, who had been clinging to life for more than a month at Mount Sinai Hospital, died on Monday afternoon, her mother confirmed to ABC News.

Despite repeated pleas for help and exhibiting various symptoms of the virus, Mungin was twice denied COVID-19 testing at Brooklyn's Brookdale Hospital, according to her family.

It was same hospital where her older sister died of an asthma attack 15 years earlier.


According to one of her friends, her condition was also dismissed as a "panic attack" by an EMT.

Mia Mungin, a registered New York City nurse, has been chronicling her sister's journey across social media for more than a month, and said "she fought a long fight but her body was too weak."

"Racism and health disparities still continues … [and] the zip code in which we live still predetermines the type of care we receive," Mia Mungin wrote on Facebook about the racial disparities in the health care system and the care received by her sister, who was black.

Rana Zoe Mungin taught at Ascend Academy in East New York, Brooklyn, an area of New York City that's among the hardest-hit by the coronavirus pandemic, according to data from the state's health department.

She was a first-generation college student who received a Bachelor of Arts in Psychology from Wellesley College and later earned a Master of Fine Arts from The University of Massachusetts, Amherst, in Creative Writing.

Her case echoes startling data released by the CDC showing that African Americans are being severely impacted by COVID-19 nationwide, accounting for 30% of coronavirus cases in the U.S. despite only comprising approximately 13% of the population.


"She died not only because of COVID-19, but because we live in a world that is racist and anti-black," her friend for more than a decade, Nohemi Maciel, told ABC News. "We know that black people are dying at disproportionate rates. This cannot be left out of the conversation."

"I'm heartbroken and don't know how to live in a world without Zoe. But I'm also angry. I'm angry that her students lost a wonderful and committed teacher, because representation matters," Maciel added.

Lauren Liora, who met Mungin during her freshman year at Wellesley College, said that people who live in areas where city hospitals are underfunded are implicitly being told that "their lives don't matter, that they don't matter."

"Imagine if Zoe had received treatment consistent with the severity of her symptoms, rather than receiving treatment consistent with her origins," said Liora.

"She was the kind of person so captivating and sincere in her dealings with others and her writing that she naturally attracted a following, and scores of friends and admirers recently fought tooth and nail for her without ever having met her," Liora added.

"Zoe was my rock," Maciel added "I cheered her on through grad school and she did the same for me years later. Every accomplishment and setback, Zoe was one of the first to know. She was a fierce and loyal friend."

Wellesley College President Dr. Paula Johnson, founder and former executive director of the Connors Center for Women's Health and Gender Biology as well as chief of the Division of Women's Health at Brigham and Women's Hospital, called the disproportionate impact of COVID-19 on black and Latinx families is a "moral and systemic failure."


"Rana touched the lives of so many members of our community during her time here at Wellesley and beyond," Johnson, the first black woman to serve as the university's president, told ABC News in statement. "As a social studies educator in Brooklyn, Rana and her love of teaching exemplified Wellesley's mission to make a difference in the world, and our motto of Non Ministrari sed Ministrare, 'not to be ministered unto, but to minister.'"

Earlier this month, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio announced that the city would open five additional sites to prioritize the needs of low-income communities of color as an effort to address the racial disparity in coronavirus cases.

"For Zoe, Mayor de Blasio's efforts are too little and too late, but they may not be for someone else like her," Liora said. "I can only hope her story ignites sweeping change."
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FreedomEyeLove
 
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Tue 28 Apr, 2020 09:45 pm
@livinglava,
Quote:
And that wins thumbs-ups? I'm glad I don't win thumbs-ups if it means creating bad discussion content.


You're speaking the truth.

The truth is abhorrent to these people.
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glitterbag
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2020 01:23 am
@livinglava,
Sarcasm Heaven???? Whats it like to sit in judgement and negate other peoples posts, pussy cat? You are an invalidator, that means you twist yourself into pretzels to piss all over others opinions for no purpose other than you wish others to think you are the brightest bulb in the carton. News Flash, you're not...you're just another passive aggressive malcontent sourpuss who can't resist distorting statements in the most negative manner possible. If you were a journalist, and you're not, but if you were you would be engaging in yellow journalism. What you are doing is just trying to convince others that you are smarter than the average bear. How's that working for ya sweetie? Bet you get all happy with yourself for behaving like an overbearing parent who simply can't ever let your child think they are up to your snuff. What a bunch of Malarky.
livinglava
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2020 08:10 am
@chai2,
chai2 wrote:

My we're sensitive.

Someone got a lot of participation awards and "good job!!! britney"s growing up, didn't they?

Now you're in the Thunderdom.

Why are you so combative?

Why don't you just explain your issue instead of just saying mean things?
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livinglava
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2020 08:18 am
@glitterbag,
glitterbag wrote:

Sarcasm Heaven???? Whats it like to sit in judgement and negate other peoples posts, pussy cat?

I avoid sarcasm for the most part because it stifles discussion. If you say something sincerely, it gives someone an opening to disagree and state/explain their opinion. Sarcasm just goads people into accepting what you mean, whether they agree or not.
Judgement? Have you read anything I've posted about Christianity? I explain forgiveness and salvation all the time in religion threads. You don't know what judgment is. To you, anyone that disagrees with you or doesn't share you paradigmatic assumptions is judging you.

Quote:
You are an invalidator, that means you twist yourself into pretzels to piss all over others opinions for no purpose other than you wish others to think you are the brightest bulb in the carton.

I don't compare myself with others. I think independently and explain my thinking. You or someone else might think otherwise and I might think you're wrong. Do you expect me to lie about why I think you're wrong and I'm right to 'validate' you? Hopefully not, because it's better to have someone honestly and openly disagree with you than to lie to your face in order to 'validate' something you've said when they don't truly agree with you.
Show a little respect for the respect that is shown by honestly disagreeing with someone instead of BSing them.

Quote:
News Flash, you're not...you're just another passive aggressive malcontent sourpuss who can't resist distorting statements in the most negative manner possible.

This is a generic statement that I'm sure applies to lots of your ideological enemies in your mind, but I don't identify with it, sorry.

Quote:
If you were a journalist, and you're not, but if you were you would be engaging in yellow journalism. What you are doing is just trying to convince others that you are smarter than the average bear. How's that working for ya sweetie? Bet you get all happy with yourself for behaving like an overbearing parent who simply can't ever let your child think they are up to your snuff. What a bunch of Malarky.

You project a lot onto someone you don't understand. I don't think/write/post to manipulate/BS or otherwise post 'yellow journalism.' I am explaining my honest analyses, and if you don't like them because they conflict with the political paradigms you submit to in order to be part of the Democrat-authoritarianism club you belong to, that doesn't mean they're not well-thought-out and honest (not to mention valid).
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izzythepush
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2020 08:28 am
@glitterbag,
I don’t waste my time on that party.

Bigoted and dim witted with a huge sense of entitlement.

Life’s too short to waste talking to that miserable thing.
livinglava
 
  -1  
Wed 29 Apr, 2020 09:41 am
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

I don’t waste my time on that party.

Bigoted and dim witted with a huge sense of entitlement.

Life’s too short to waste talking to that miserable thing.

How do you know that you're not just politically biased against people who defy your socialist views?
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revelette3
 
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Wed 29 Apr, 2020 10:54 am
@livinglava,
Both were discussed in the post of yours I responded to.

Quote:
The problem is that you're attributing collective blame for the HIV-discrimination. You can't assume it is the exact same people who discriminated against HIV that now want freedom to ignore COVID19.

You may be right that some of the people are the same, but when you ascribe collective blame, you're lumping in all individuals with a certain identity, e.g. bowling patrons who eat at the Cheesecake Factory and have automatic weapons, with HIV-discrimination.

Also, you're implying that if there was discrimination against people with HIV then it is legitimate to retaliate by discriminating against people who could be carrying COVID19; but that is completely illogical since HIV was/is not airborne while COVID19 is. So discrimination makes sense to stop the spread of COVID19 in ways that were not warranted for HIV.

So while I understand what you are saying about HIV discrimination being wrong, it really has nothing to do with COVID19, even though it was a virus and epidemic as well.

Basically, you're just angry about homophobia, maybe rightly so, but as a result, you're trying to scapegoat and discriminate further.


I was simply responding to certain points in your post, not the overall conversation you were having with others. You brought up both points.

On the points in regard to your post. The republican party, in particular, the far-right wing of the republican party have been against homosexual in all kinds of issues. The evangelicals wing of the republican party has been out front in protesting gay rights for years. So have the tea-party, Sara Palin types of republicans. Trump encouraged the "liberate" protest and his brand of republican which are the Sara Palin types marched to his orders.

As for my previous post, those were merely interesting points I wanted to share.

There have updates on how the virus is spread and I think it is useful to know.

Also, I think those people putting themselves and other at-risk with their protest should be made to see how harmful their opinions are. They may be free to express those opinions, but so are others free to express how ignorant and harmful those opinions are to others and themselves.

 

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