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Bernie Sanders 2020

 
 
hightor
 
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Reply Sat 17 Aug, 2019 10:19 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
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Why is it stupid? Because you don't like him.

There's enough nervousness in the agricultural sector as it is, between floods and tariffs. Why send a signal that exported wheat is not a valued commodity? I think wheat producers might begin to doubt whether the government has their back and this could affect business decisions.
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How does it undercut his credibility?

Here, read the rest of the story:
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A White House spokesman directed questions to USDA and the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative. Requests seeking comment were not returned.

"The president was on a campaign speech and speaking, as he normally does, off the top of his head," Chandler Goule, CEO of the National Association of Wheat Growers, told the Capital Press. "What's most unfortunate, in my mind, is he was sitting here in the last couple months talking about how all our farmers in the United States are doing great, but yet, they're not and they're suffering."

Goule said Trump's comments were "very frustrating." He said the president claims to be continually supporting farmers, but started a trade war, and then directly attacks "the bread basket commodity of the United States."

"Do I want to say that it was probably speaking before you think?" Goule said. "Yes, it probably was, but you're the president of the United States and the farmers and ranchers of this country are who put you in office. To have you attack a commodity that is high-quality and in high demand ... and that truly depends on export markets is really just irresponsible."

"I disagree with the President’s comments and stand by our wheat growers in Eastern Washington," Rep Cathy McMorris Rodgers said. "We value our relationship with Japan and are committed to providing the high quality wheat they need. We pride ourselves in producing the best wheat in the world and will continue to lead on cutting-edge research to help with global food security.”

In a statement, the Oregon Wheat Growers League said it was "profoundly disappointed" in Trump's comments.

"The President's dismissive statements ... demonstrated that he doesn't fully appreciate the 70 years of efforts by generations of wheat growers to build the great relationships we have with our customers in Japan," the league stated.

Relationships between Japanese millers and U.S. farmers began in 1949, when the league organized a trade delegation to investigate expanding wheat sales.

Japan is the No. 1 market for U.S. wheat, and the No. 2 market for soft white wheat grown in the Pacific Northwest, the league said. U.S. wheat has a 50% market share in Japan.

"Our customers in Japan don’t buy our wheat because they are doing us a favor or to make us feel good, they buy our wheat because we have built a relationship with them, earned their trust, listened to their needs, and provided great customer service," the league stated.

"This is not a situation in which they're simply buying what can be close to $1 billion worth of wheat a year for political reasons," said Steve Mercer, vice president of communications for U.S. Wheat Associates, the overseas marketing arm for the industry. "This is a need and a desire on the part of their industry to purchase U.S. wheat."


It looks as if he doesn't really understand how foreign trade works; his statements are prone to error and are often untrustworthy.
roger
 
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Reply Sat 17 Aug, 2019 10:28 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

It looks as if he doesn't really understand how foreign trade works; his statements are prone to error and are often untrustworthy.

I was beginning to suspect just that
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2019 08:00 am
Joshua Collins 4 Congress
@Joshua4Congress
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Aug 15
Amazon is paying people to do anti-union propaganda on social media.

WalMart is firing people for posting anything pro-union online.

Bosses are threatening to fire employees who talk to pro-union people on Twitter.

The bosses in our country are scared. Unionize your workplace.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2019 11:04 am
@edgarblythe,
Unions are the only way workers will get a chance to control their own future. Organized labor is stronger than any one company or boss. I believe in unions, because I was a union member while attending college, and we were provided with decent pay. Unions help non-union workers with better pay and benefits, because they must compete for workers.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2019 11:53 am
@cicerone imposter,
Yes. I was a Teamster in the mid 60s and they took care of me when I needed it.
Real Music
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2019 12:01 pm
Bernie Sanders rolled out his new criminal justice plan on Sunday.


Published August 18, 2019
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Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont) unveiled his plan to reform the criminal justice system on Sunday, with proposals to cut the country’s incarcerated population in half, ban private prisons, legalize marijuana, and end mandatory minimum sentencing, solitary confinement, and the federal death penalty.

“America’s prisons are hotbeds of human rights violations, torture, sexual assault, and wrongful imprisonment,” he wrote in the plan, which was published on his campaign website of ahead of a campaign event in Columbia, South Carolina, scheduled for Sunday afternoon. “We must put an end to this barbarism and respect the rights of all human beings and treat them with basic dignity.”

Other Democratic presidential candidates have also put forward ambitious plans to overhaul the justice system, including former vice president Joe Biden, Sen. Elizabeth Warren, Sen. Cory Booker, and Mayor Pete Buttigieg, some of whom have also called to halve the prison population, ban private prisons, and end solitary confinement.

But Sanders’ plan is among the most comprehensive, in part because it proposes to restore voting rights to all incarcerated people, an idea Sanders first put forward earlier this year at a CNN town hall. Other candidates have been more timid on this issue, focusing on expanding the franchise to people only after they finish their sentences.

In addition to ending private prisons, whose profits have soared under President Trump, Sanders says he will:
•Stop charging people for prison phone calls;
•Audit prison commissaries to ensure they are not price-hiking (something that Warren has also proposed);
•End cash bail, a practice that disproportionately keeps low-income people locked up ahead of their trials;
•Vacate past marijuana convictions, something that could help communities of color, who are disproportionately prosecuted for these drug crimes; and,
•Legalize safe injection sites and needle exchange programs.

Sanders also calls for an end to prison gerrymandering, a common practice whereby states count incarcerated people as residents of the town where their prison is located, rather than where they are from, reducing representation in their communities.

Sanders’s plan is no less ambitious on policing. He wants to establish national standards for use of body cameras and for when police can deploy force, a response to public outrage over police killings of unarmed people of color. He also wants to require the Justice Department to review all officer-involved shootings, a major departure from the Trump administration. (Former Housing Secretary Julian Castro, another Democratic candidate, has also called for national standards on police force and for more thorough investigations of officer-involved shootings, as part of a police reform plan that is perhaps even more detailed.)

Echoing proposals by Sen. Kamala Harris, Sanders is also calling for higher pay to public defenders, who represent people without money to hire their own attorney, but who are currently underpaid and overwhelmed, with some juggling hundreds of felony cases a year. As part of that proposal, Sanders wants to cancel their student debt. His plan also suggests reinstating the federal parole system, which would allow people to spend less of their sentences in prison, and to expand the use of halfway houses, which the Trump administration has sent fewer people to. Other priorities in his plan include ending the national rape kit backlog, preventing children younger than 18 from being tried in adult courts, and guaranteeing a living wage to all incarcerated workers, many of which currently make mere pennies on the hour.

The senator unveiled his plan during a weekend of campaigning in South Carolina, an early voting state where the majority of Democratic voters are African American.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/08/bernie-sanders-criminal-justice-policy-announcement-prisons-police/
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2019 01:47 pm
@hightor,
Again...you'll notice it is the trade organizations, not actual wheat producers who are complaining.

He didn't send a signal that our wheat is not a valued commodity, he said Japan doesn't truly value it as other customers do, but they are nevertheless buying it.

How could that comment possibly impact the value of American wheat?

I don't know who buys our wheat other than Japan, but let's say Iceland does. The buyers their (if they even heard the comment) aren't going to think "Geeze we've always thought American wheat was great but if the Japanese don't really need all that they buy, we better look to other markets!" Only someone with an animus for Trump or a job that depends upon him rising to every real or perceived critique of his client, who interpret Trump's comment to mean he was saying Japan is buying inferior wheat because of his prowess at deal-making.

I would not have made the comment because it could reflect poorly on the Japanese, not American wheat. Despite what you might think, he's not a fool. He knows the Japanese aren't "stupid" enough to disrupt trade relations with the US because of a comment they might not appreciate. He made it for domestic political purposes. Every president we have ever had has kept politics in mind in making decisions and statements. Foreign leaders are more than happy to work with us and then make disparaging comments about us to their people...for political reasons.

I can assure you that the rest of the world doesn't tune in to Trump's rallies. and my bet is that the vast majority of Japanese citizens wouldn't have a clue about what we are discussing.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2019 01:51 pm
@roger,
roger wrote:

hightor wrote:

It looks as if he doesn't really understand how foreign trade works; his statements are prone to error and are often untrustworthy.

I was beginning to suspect just that


Based on what? A comment about the Japanese buying more American wheat than they need? That's precisely how international trade works. The Japanese what to sell as many of their cars as they can to Americans, if they need to buy more American wheat than they need, they will be happy to do so...and they have.

Trump is not a Free Trader. Which nation with which we trade is?
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2019 01:52 pm
@edgarblythe,
I was a Teamster in the mid 70's and they did nothing for me except get me let go from a part-time job I had while I was going to school.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2019 02:36 pm
@Real Music,
How much of these proposals by Bernie do you believe he can deliver?
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2019 02:45 pm
He's laying out policies to strive for, to change the national narrative to the positive, instead of consistently losing as the good guys have done for thirty years. Once the public sees they have the ability to control the direction of the country, these policies can fall into place. Nobody thinks we can magically have it all on day one. It will take a couple of progressive terms to get most of it in place.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2019 03:03 pm
With him and his earthshaking cabinet in place—and people seeing him make these pronouncements and taking these people-serving executive actions—and taking on those Republicans by name from his bully pulpit, it’ll feel like he broke us out of a long torturous imprisonment.

He’ll go to Kentucky in Mitch McConnell’s town, and talk to those people who vote for him. He’ll be a master communicator and I believe seeing what he can and will do for people will turn this country toward a strong majority of support for all of his policies.

Give him that desk and that pulpit. He will use it like no one has before. The public will —will change.

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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2019 03:12 pm
Meanwhile, news you can use:

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/442738-poll-almost-one-third-of-biden-supporters-pick-sanders-as-their?amp&__twitter_impression=true

Excerpt:

Former Vice President Joe Biden (D) is atop the field of Democratic presidential candidates in most polls, but a new survey finds that many of his supporters would be willing to back his top rival, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

A Hill-HarrisX poll released Wednesday found that 27 percent of registered voters who support Biden said Sanders was their second pick to become the Democratic nominee.

____________________

Cha-chiiiiing!
Banana Breath
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2019 09:19 pm
@Lash,
Sanders is a gadfly, plain and simple. He wanted to whip the Democratic party hard enough to get them to adopt some of his positions. Now they have. I expect him to back out but keep cracking the whip with others like Elizabeth Warren carrying the torch of extreme left wing socialism and an unlimited national debt. He doesn't really want the job, and just wants to retire knowing that any third world immigrant can walk into the country unimpeded and get a ton of money without even asking for it for any purpose they see fit, while the nation's most productive companies, largest employers, and the makers of the medicines and vaccines that keep you alive will be shut down. Welcome to your future.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 18 Aug, 2019 09:53 pm
@Banana Breath,
None of the other candidates are planning to make good on most of Sanders' positions. He would be a fool to step aside for the likes of Warren, who is shadowing Sanders' positions since declaring, but her history shows her to be a neocon and a centrist, not a socialist.
Lash
 
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Reply Mon 19 Aug, 2019 03:27 am
@edgarblythe,
Have you read his policy on incarceration??? Amazing!!😊 I’m so damn glad this guy exists.
Lash
 
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Reply Mon 19 Aug, 2019 03:28 am
@Banana Breath,
Boy, have you read THIS situation wrong.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 19 Aug, 2019 05:35 am
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Have you read his policy on incarceration??? Amazing!!😊 I’m so damn glad this guy exists.

I have a copy to read today.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 19 Aug, 2019 10:23 am
U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders
2 hrs ·
The scientists tell us we have fewer than 12 years to transform our energy system away from fossil fuels to energy efficiency and sustainable energy, or else there will be irreparable damage done to this planet.

Whether our climate-action plan is 1,000 pages long or two pages long, at the end of the day, we all know what it’s about. It’s about building the political power to tell the fossil fuel industry: Sorry, you cannot continue to destroy the planet for short-term profits.

Our job: come together to mobilize a response as large and serious as the emergency itself. Our future depends on it.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 19 Aug, 2019 11:27 am
@Banana Breath,
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Sanders is a gadfly, plain and simple.
So is Trump, and look where it's gotten him?
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