Need your valuable advice guys!!!

Probably, this is waste of time for me

I would probably kill you in your sleep if I were married to you.

Yup, you must be right, Ron. You just go out and try that, but don't forget to come back here and let us all know how it went ;-)

Woman are sooooo annoying that when men dedicate their lives to them, they don't understand. Women demand more from men when men already given everything. Women are soo uncertain that they piss men off sometimes.

You think?

Sure

The more love given to women, more they become Insolent.

that is why woman needs to be control, coerced, and managed by men,

I will get killed while trying to give love to women by managing, and controlling (Apparently, controlling is the most effective and only way). How miserable thought is that?

Controlled - Not allowing someone to think for themselves. Keeping them emotionless.

Coerced - To force someone to act or think a certain way, by the use of pressure and threats. To dominate, restrain or control. To bring about by force or threat.

Managed - To make submissive to one's authority. To gain control over.

Any man that ever does the above to me will not only get kicked out of my home - but he will see a restraining order delivered by the police within 24 hours.

You have GOT to be joking!

So . . . your previous statement that women should have full authority over their own choices was a LIE. You believe . . . as a man . . . it's your job to define gender roles and control, coerce, and manage your wife.

How will you control, coerce, and manage her? Will you beat her into submission? How will you accomplish your gender goals if the woman in your life disagrees with you?

Well of course those were true 'til u guys started saying rub my feet and all.

obvously, beating or using any physical force is not acceptable.
Probably, through money, through emotion etc

Can someone explain to me, how Ron was able to see the girl's face flush red when obviously she was wearing a burqa?

So u r saying um from mid-east huh?

Is that supposed to be funny cjhsa? Cuz it isn't!

Poor, poor ronfg. <shaking head> He's digging himself deeper and deeper....

You just don't get it, do you?

Men and women were made to be partners, not one over the other. We should do things for each other out of love, not because it is our duty or stereotypical role. Whatever one is good at and wants to contribute, the other should accept with gratitude. And neither should demand that the other do anything. Both pitch in to get whatever needs to be done...done.

It's really simple, ronfg. No controlling necessary. No managing necessary. Not if it's love we're talking about.

The whole stereotypical "man's role" and "woman's role" thing is hopelessly outdated and unworkable in today's world. Thank God. Now things are handled according to one's talents or capabilities. If a woman has greater earning power than a man, it's no disgrace. If a man is better at household tasks or childrearing than a woman and chooses to do that, that's fine. Whatever works. It really depends on the two people. It's quite freeing, actually, not to have to live by strictly defined "rules," but to have choices. And for ALL of those choices to be okay.

I've been happily married for more than 20 years, btw.

Loosen up, ronfg. Life doesn't have to be so structured.

Just like the sweet, fragile, shy girl that you want to date.

She told you no . . . and that pisses you off. You know she likes you, you just have to convince her that you're the one for her . . . after all, she's so uncertain . . . you should make the decision for her.

You will dedicate your life to her. You will work. You will pay all the bills. All you want from this sweet, feminine creature is for her to cook and clean for you, make love to you, and bear your children. In exchange, you will give her everything . . .

And if she wants to work outside the home . . . that's fine. You will allow her to do so -- IF she understands her main purpose in life is to cook for you. If she comes home from work too tired to cook . . . that's going to piss you off. You will be forced to control, coerce, and manage her.

Maybe you can punch the wall and put a hole through it . . . or slap her around and give her a bloody nose (or worse). She'll start cooking in a big hurry . . . or maybe your a$$ will land in jail.

Your views about male/female relationships are extremely troublesome. You're traveling a very scary path.

Rongf - You are a little confused, a pitbull needs to be managed and controlled not another human being.

By the way, where did you get these ideas about relationships with women? Did you grow up in a household were your mother was subservient to your father? Do you have passive sisters? Who were (are) your male female role models? What is your basis for your beliefs within your own life?

Back to work for me - but I will check in later...