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Why I left the Democratic Party

 
 
Reply Fri 4 Aug, 2017 05:09 pm
Well, this story gives one an idea why the Democrats suck almost as bad as the Republicans.

The Democrats and Hillary’s Funders Just Sunk to An All-Time Low

The divide between establishment Democrats and progressives in the wake of Hillary Clinton’s defeat in the 2016 presidential election has taken an interesting twist in a Florida Congressional race.

Florida Democrats are raising money for sophomore GOP Congressman Carlos Curbelo, who represents the 26th congressional district, in his campaign for reelection against Democrat Debbie Mucarsel-Powell.

The Democrats co-hosting the August 23 fundraiser include former Miami Mayor Manny Diaz, Homestead, FL Mayor Jeff Porter, Florida City, FL Mayor Otis Wallace, top Hillary Clinton donor Ira Leesfield and attorney Roland Sanchez-Medina, who has worked on Democratic campaigns against Curbelo in the past.

The Democrats joined a group of Curbelo supporters that includes GOP Senator and former presidential candidate Marco Rubio, who will also host an event for Curbelo.

Curbelo, who paints himself as a moderate, is a pro-life Republican who voted to repeal and replace Obamacare.

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Curbelo is Republican, pro-life and against single-payer, but the Dems will fundraise him anyway. http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2017/08/in-bipartisan-show-of-support-democrats-plan-to-host-fundraiser-for-curbelo-hes-also-got-rubio-lined.html
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@PatriciaMazzei A group of well-known local Democrats will collect campaign cash later this month -- for a Republican. Miami Rep. Carlos Curbelo will attend an Aug. 23 fundraising reception hosted by...
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Mucarsel-Powell, who allegedly supports single-payer healthcare and is backed by Planned Parenthood, has slammed Curbelo for voting to replace the Affordable Care Act with Trumpcare. She also noted that Curbelo has voted “more than 86 percent of the time” in line with President Donald Trump’s views, though Curbelo has distanced himself from the President.

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The Dems are supporting a, uh, Republican in Florida. He's running against a Dem who is pro single payer. So. Yeah. http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2017/08/in-bipartisan-show-of-support-democrats-plan-to-host-fundraiser-for-curbelo-hes-also-got-rubio-lined.html
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The Florida 26th congressional district tends to lean Democratic, and has been identified as a Mid-term target for national Democratic strategists in 2018. But having prominent local DNC-friendly operatives hosting the event or on the guest list highlights just how much the establishment Democrats seems willing to push back against the surge of progressives within its ranks who supported Bernie Sanders in his 2016 presidential bid.

http://reverepress.com/politics/democrats-hillarys-funders-just-sunk-time-low/
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hightor
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 05:21 am
It's Florida, man.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 03:59 pm
The Clintons are pushing toward a new single party uniting Corporate Dems and Corporate Republicans, basically tasked to do the bidding of those with enough money to pay them.

Clinton talked about everybody meeting in a nice 'purple space'. We saw her reject the left in her own party and attempt to attract so-called moderate Republicans instead. This is why they feel confident in continuing to reject progressives. They had decided to retool the party before Clinton lost, they just thought the transition to a one-party country would be under her leadership.

Kamala Harris has already been annointed to run for president of the remnants of the Dem party. Supposedly, Rs are looking for someone to run against Harris and Trump. If he's not removed by impeachment first.

I've been a registered Indy since the 80s. Voted for Bernie and Jill Stein.

I have to say--my country is an unrecognizable shitshow. There is such a thick network established throughout DC, I don't think even a Bernie administration could touch it.

I do feel we've lost the whole thing irretrievably.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 04:36 pm
Jill Stein is who I voted for last. She will never inspire people. Bernie is still trying to move the Democrats. When he gives up and starts a new party I will pay him more heed.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 04:40 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:


Kamala Harris has already been annointed to run for president of the remnants of the Dem party. Supposedly, Rs are looking for someone to run against Harris and Trump. If he's not removed by impeachment first.

I have to say--my country is an unrecognizable shitshow. There is such a thick network established throughout DC, I don't think even a Bernie administration could touch it.

I do feel we've lost the whole thing irretrievably.


You're too much of a pessimist, and "unrecognizable?" When was it any different within the last 100 years or so? The only difference between now and the past is that we have alternative news sources, and we have a better view of the corruption. We're no longer limited to Walter Cronkite telling us everything is rosy in DC.

A Sanders administration could never touch the Establishment...he's a member in good standing.

Maybe Kid Rock or The Rock. (Half kidding) Absolutely someone who has not spent years (if not decades) cuddled up within the Establishment. (That excludes Bernie)

I appreciate that Trump is very flawed and not everyone's cup of tea, and whether or not he ever was a true anti-Establishment candidate (I think in part he was) his victory against Clinton tells us that a lot of Americans are sick to death of the Establishment.

We, the people, need to put aside partisan tribalism for a little while and come together on electing someone who will truly drain the swamp. Once that's done we can go back to throwing insults and feces at one another.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 04:42 pm
One of the first things we need are term limits.

I used to think they were a bad idea, because they robbed people of voting for someone they want in office, but it works great with the presidency and we need it in congress.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 04:46 pm
@edgarblythe,
Seven more years of Trump. Thanks Edgar.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 04:50 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

Seven more years of Trump. Thanks Edgar.



Do you actually think that Jill Stein voters led to Trump's win?
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 04:53 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
I think that disaffected Hillary voters led to Trump's win. Some of them voted for Stein. Some of them voted for Trump just out of spite. Many of them just stayed home.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 04:56 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

One of the first things we need are term limits.

I used to think they were a bad idea, because they robbed people of voting for someone they want in office, but it works great with the presidency and we need it in congress.

This is one of the most important things this country can do, imo.

I almost think there should be a mandatory skipping of generations too. Corruption always finds a way.

Why don't we investigate finances of elected officials? Why do we allow them to allow Monsanto to poison us?

Why is Flint's water unsafe?

I'm continually surprised that the status quo isn't smashed.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 05:11 pm
@Lash,
Term limits won't help, unless politicians also are not allowed to become lobbyists or cash in on information they received while in office.
Lash
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 05:21 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
I'm usually ridiculously optimistic, but I'm also a realist. I'd suspected all the horseshit that has been proven during the last election, but I didn't know it was as entrenched as it is.

The FBI, the CIA, DC cops,...important news is suppressed. I always thought the mainstream media supported democrats. I see now that support is directed at certain democrats. I didn't realize just how powerful political donors are.

You're full of **** about Sanders, but say what you will. It doesn't matter.

Your last paragraph is on the money, but one of the 500 reasons Trump is being ripped to pieces is because he's a political outsider with no network of cronies to get his back. A total outsider will be gutted by the mafia of lifetime millionaire members in that elite club we've let them create for themselves. It's easy when they have a media, justice dept., CIA& FBI working 24/7 for them.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 05:24 pm
@maxdancona,
Save your thanks for the DNC, for cheating voters out of their primary choice.
Lash
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 05:27 pm
@edgarblythe,
I'd banish lobbyists.

It's a dirty word.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 05:31 pm
Edgar, I'm sorry. I started out a bit in left field, and I've wandered away from the intent of your thread.

I'll take it elsewhere if it continues.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 05:35 pm
@Lash,
You are doing fine.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 06:27 pm
@Lash,
How is Monsanto poisoning us? With GMOs?
Lash
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 07:16 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

How is Monsanto poisoning us? With GMOs?

Mostly with poison.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/foodbabe.com/2016/11/15/monsanto/amp/
Lash
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 07:19 pm
There's a Snopes refutation. Snopes likes money too.
And, if you wade through their narrative, it doesn't really even try to give proof that the claim is false...
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 5 Aug, 2017 07:42 pm
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