IS AMERICA A BULLY?

@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

Look at the Amanda Knox thread, you've got Americans lining up
to insult a dead British girl and her grieving family.

I don t remember whether I have posted thereto.
I know that I m not tremendously familiar with that thread.
I wish that she remained in perfect health beyond 1OO years,
but to the extent that I read of this trial, I got the sense
that the Italians treated Amanda very un-fairly.
It was very doubtful that she was guilty nor that she shud suffer.

izzythepush wrote:

I'm not saying all Americans by any means,
but a significant number none the less. Were you British,
would you be happy if someone with Foofie's hatred of all things British
was camped down the road from you with access to military hardware?

I am very peripherally aware of a dispute
between u both qua the Middle East; (not my thing).

1. Do u believe that the American troops stationed there HATE the English ???

2. Do u fear that thay will execute acts of violence against Englishmen ?

David

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@Setanta,

Setanta wrote:

Jeeze . . . Mr. Mensa. Who's is the abbreviation of who is. Whose is the possessive case of who.

Read more here.

(I suspect this effort is wasted, because you're never wrong, are you David?)

I don 't accept your characterization of my posting history.
I 'm perfectly willing to admit it, when I 'm convinced that I 'm rong.
My ego is not as frail and delicate as yours.

Having checked your link, I see that your authority, Ms. Lawless,
supports your point of vu. I wonder whether I was confused; its possible.

On a tentative basis, I 'm conceding the point.
I vaguely remember that this was part of a trichotomy
whose 3rd member eludes my memory: whose, who 's and ?

In any case: thank u for your advice, Mr. Setanta; very nice of u.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

Here is a thread on Amanda Knox.It must be the one to which izzy is referring because he makes the same argument therein.

http://able2know.org/topic/138895-1

Now if you read this thread in it's entirety, you will be hard pressed to find "Americans lining up to insult a dead British girl and her grieving family," but you will find quite a lot of anti-American sentiment posted by izzy.

The Americans, according to izzy, who "lined up to insult the dead British girl and her family?"

Orolloy
Gungasnake

and (believe it or not) wandeljw!

Now Orolloy is a kook and in another thread on this topic he posted an outrageous and offensive comment about the girl who was murdered, but is it sensible for anyone to assume Orolloy speaks for Americans? Izzy was upset that American posters didn't chastise orolloy for his ugly comments, but apparently he didn't consider that most of us have him on "ignore." You can't crticize what you don't see. And BTW, there were numerous Americans who did chastise orolloy.

Gungasnake is deliberately provocative but he wrote the following in this thread:

Quote:

I mean, sure it's a shame about the British girl getting raped and murdered, Poop, but it doesn't really sound like Amanda Knox or her boyfriend had anything to do with it...

Now this is hardly a model of expressed compassion, but this is Gungasnake, and it is also hardly an insult of the dead girl and her grieving family.

As for wandeljw's comments, I seriously doubt that anyone who has spent any time in this forum believes that he would have insulted the dead girl or her family. There are over 70 pages of comments in this thread and I didn't review all of them, so I suppose it's possible wandeljw is guilty as charged, but I sure don't believe it, and I doubt many, if any, others will either. Of course izzy could provide us with quotes to back up his statements, but that's never something he cares to do.

BTW, in the linked thread izzy rationalizes his fear of American military bases in the UK based on #1 That all Americans have contempt for the British victim in this case, and #2 The stationed American soldiers and airmen likely do as well. Paranoid much?

But this is izzy to a tee. He gets a bee in his bonnet and launches attacks that go beyond hyperbole into outright lies.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Don't accuse me of lying you loathsome ****. That's exactly what you did. As for bullshit about leaving A2K you've lied about that before, only to post as someone else, and then say it was you all along.

F wrote:

By the way, a post arguing that the UK's health plan shouldn't be a model for the US is not asserting your son should die.

I see you do remember it now, and you're trying to wriggle out of it. Your comments on the Charlie Brown thread confirm all you care about is getting your snout in the trough. The elderly, the disabled, the unemployed should all be killed with neglect.

As for working hard, try living the life of your Mexican cleaning lady for a day to find out what real hard work is. You just exploit the hard work of others, you're a louse sucking the lifeblood of the body politic.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

The US will have troops on British soil as long as the British want them to.

America will never give up its bases, no matter what the consequences are.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

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I imagine you also believe that the idea that the US was behind the 9/11 attacks is well established too. As well established as the idea the CIA killed Kennedy, Freemasons rule the world, and aliens are responsible for crop circles and cattle mutilation.

I've never said anything of the kind, and your need to resort to such nonsense shows how shaky your case is. Fact, Harold Wilson resigned very prematurely in a climate where there were fears of a coup by the establishment with American backing. Now you can spin that fact as much as you like and bring in nonsense about aliens but it's still a fact.

You've shown you're a liar.

Remember this?
http://able2know.org/topic/216669-1 Well that was a lie.

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@OmSigDAVID,

The troops stationed here may loathe the locals, there's plenty that do. Americans funded terrorist campaigns in the UK right up to 9/11. The bases were most likely a key factor in the resignation of Harold Wilson. The bases have made us complicit in illegal acts of extraordinary rendition.

The bases never protected us, they made us a target. Look at the Cuban missile crisis. They were there to ensure that if a war broke out between USA and the Soviet Union, Europe would be the battlefield.

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@izzythepush,

Quote:

Americans funded terrorist campaigns in the UK right up to 9/11.

Is this from some alternate universe? Id love to hear about the train of evidence.

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@farmerman,

Google "Noraid."

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@izzythepush,

No Id rather hear your quick take. I find that Googling just as often unearths agenda filled content that is entirely "inside" information that often bears no parallel to truth and is meant only to deceive.
has the British government come pit on alleged aiding and abetting of terror by the US?

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@farmerman,

Noraid funded the IRA, and it was allowed to operate by the American government.

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@izzythepush,

Congressman Pete King was (is?) one of the leading supporters: IRA was (is?) "the legitimate voice of occupied Ireland"; "We must pledge ourselves to support those brave men and women who this very moment are carrying forth the struggle against British imperialism in the streets of Belfast and Derry." ... ... (source: a quick google search)

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@izzythepush,

I see.
You have to understand that , often you go off sounding like JTT "light".
So, by saying "Americans" you aren't saying "The Americans"

Governments often move slowly in approaching conclusions in timely issues. I knew of several fraternal organizations in NEw England that were clandestinely raising money for the IRA and SInn Fein in the mid 80's and were investigated by the IRS questioning their 501 3(c) status because of it. That was in the late Reagan years.
IF I as a citizen wanted to give money to the IRA during that time , I guess Id be considering the brutal handling of the indigenous peoples by the British Government. US tried to consider itself a friend to Britain AND Ireland during the time of their "troubles".

I love how you seem to try to deny the warts on your own public face

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@farmerman,

So far from denying it you actually support the perpetration of terrorist acts on UK mainland soil. The fact that working class people in Manchester and Birmingham had nothing to do with the oppression of the Irish makes no difference.

By that logic you can justify 9/11.

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@izzythepush,

I begin to se how Finnsy can state that you start off with a point that quickly escalates into lying.
Ill leave you to you yell at someone else.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

Look at the Amanda Knox thread, you've got Americans lining up to insult a dead British girl and her grieving family. I'm not saying all Americans by any means, but a significant number none the less. Were you British, would you be happy if someone with Foofie's hatred of all things British was camped down the road from you with access to military hardware?

Don't compliment yourself. I do not hate all things British. I ignore many things British. You really do not understand how Jews might be thinking. To survive as a minority, one needs to learn not to hate, just to avoid, and ignore. "Hating" is a luxury for the majority population. At best, one can say I have "contempt" for many things British. I do though watch BBC dramas, since the British are cute in their cultural excesses, like penguins, in my opinion.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

I imagine you also believe that the idea that the US was behind the 9/11 attacks is well established too. As well established as the idea the CIA killed Kennedy, Freemasons rule the world, and aliens are responsible for crop circles and cattle mutilation.

Well, if Freemasons ruled the world, I'd sleep better at night. I never met a Freemason that was not a gentleman.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

As for working hard, try living the life of your Mexican cleaning lady for a day to find out what real hard work is. You just exploit the hard work of others, you're a louse sucking the lifeblood of the body politic.

Doesn't the woman get paid more than she could earn back in Mejico? And, since cleaning la casa de un Gringo es trabajo duro, a quien lo hacera? Isn't Finn nice to help economically the lives of the Hispanics in the U.S.

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@farmerman,

You're just not willing to take things to their logical conclusions, and prefer to listen to propaganda than the actual facts. Ulster did vote to stay in the UK, something people like you conveniently ignore. Maybe those unionists did come over from Scotland in the reign of Elizabeth I, but that's still years before a successful British colony was established in America from which your country evolved. What about those of us 'indigenous' Irish whose great grandparents moved to England? Is it still alright for the IRA to blow us up?

If you'd wanted to help the Irish people you might have written to the Irish government to see what they suggested. There were plenty of organisations around whose help didn't involve blowing up innocent civilians.

For the record I really wish we could get shot of Ulster, let it join Ireland or go independent. It's way too much of a drain on the British taxpayer consuming far more than they actually raise.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

The troops stationed here may loathe the locals, there's plenty that do.

I have NEVER, in any State wherein I have resided
heard ANY American veteran express loathing for the English locals; not even disapproval.
What has led u to believe otherwise??

Has there been strife between American troops and the locals ?
I have not heard of anything. Please explain.

David

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