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The Winding Road To The Republican Nomination For President

 
 
sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2012 04:34 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
I'm so loving it.

It really lends itself to memes, too.

A few:

http://dailydish.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451c45669e20167641b046b970b-320wi

http://dailydish.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451c45669e20168e9159413970c-550wi

http://www.plunderbund.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/romney-etch-a-sketch.jpg

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcROGc3lZLA5BbrLl7xNvTZ-mYXrfscfsWUUQ-H6LBP2cA7_cpDG

Santorum's loving it:

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/03/21/HL_SANTORUMETCHSKETCH_032112_620x433.jpg

DNC too:

http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Snapz-Pro-XScreenSnapz333-620x340.png
DrewDad
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2012 04:57 pm
@sozobe,
I liked Gingrich handing a kid an etch-a-sketch and saying, "now you can be a politician, too!"
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2012 05:02 pm
@DrewDad,
No!

Too much.

Joe Klein had this to say about it:

Quote:
In the Arena
2012 Election
Mitt Romney’s Etch A Sketch Disaster
By Joe Klein | @JoeKleinTIME | March 22, 2012 | 161
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I’ve been thinking about this all night: Eric Fehrnstrom’s Etch A Sketch gaffe yesterday may go well beyond a momentary embarrassment and become a campaign-defining disaster, much as John Kerry’s “I voted for it before I voted against it” gaffe — which came at almost exactly the same point in that campaign, as Kerry locked down the nomination — was in 2004. This is true for several reasons:

1. Most obviously, this was a classic Kinsleyan gaffe — an inadvertent blurting of the truth — that goes to the very heart of the character problems that have bedeviled Mitt Romney throughout this campaign. It provides a handy prop for Romney’s opponents and an obvious template for future TV ads.

2. It makes it much harder, perhaps impossible, for Romney to begin to tack back to the center to appeal to centrist voters, an absolute necessity for the fall campaign after the free-range extremism of the Republican primary. Every time Romney makes a move or even a head fake, it becomes an Etch A Sketch moment.

3. There is a gestalt to every campaign, a deep organic spirit. Kerry’s campaign was infected by the candidate’s indecision about what to do regarding the war in Iraq. Bill Clinton’s campaign was propelled by his native resilience. George W. Bush succeeded because of his gormless certitude. The Obama campaign’s steadiness emanated from the candidate’s no-drama persona. In Romney’s case, this spirit expresses itself in embarrassing gaffes, often at the moment of victory — and it reflects the sterile management-consultancy ethos at the heart of the candidate. In last week’s issue of the New Yorker, Louis Menand had a terrific essay about how this ethos really is Romney’s defining characteristic. A management consultant or private equity turnaround specialist can wipe the slate — or Etch A Sketch — clean and start anew with each new project. A political candidate can’t. There has to be some passion for a presidential candidacy to work. Romney has none, just a deep abiding faith in his ability as a turnaround guy. A turnaround guy. A turnaround guy.



Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2012/03/22/etch-a-disaster/#ixzz1ptDPWBYG

Cycloptichorn
hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2012 05:18 pm
Damn - without the Daily Show I've missed this talk of etch-o-sketches. Off to google news to find out some context.

I offer this as my favourite (until now) etch a sketch cartoonie.

http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/000000/20000/0000/900/20939/20939.strip.zoom.gif
sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2012 05:32 pm
@hingehead,
Here's where it all started (Eric Fehrnstrom is a senior Romney campaign guy):

Interview with CNN:

Quote:
FUGELSANG: Good morning, sir. It's fair to say that John McCain was considerably a more moderate candidate than the ones that Governor Romney faces now. Is there a concern that the pressure from Santorum and Gingrich might force the governor to tack so fared to right it would hurt him with moderate voters in the general election?

FEHRNSTROM: Well, I think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign. Everything changes. It's almost like an Etch a Sketch. You can kind of shake it up and we start all over again.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1203/21/sp.02.html

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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 22 Mar, 2012 05:39 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Romney is a "turn-around guy," but the story behind those turn-arounds is how he bankrupted the company, destroyed jobs, and created losses for the company's investors. The story behind the story is often more interesting in how he made his millions.

I think Americans care about saving and creating jobs; not destroying them.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Fri 23 Mar, 2012 11:17 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Mar. 22, 2012
Commentary: Steve Schmidt faces heat after 'Game Change'
Dan Morain | The Sacramento Bee

Some conservatives speak volumes as they try to pillory Steve Schmidt, the strategist who helped run John McCain's 2008 presidential campaign and lately has been getting attention thanks to Woody Harrelson's portrayal of him in the movie, "Game Change."

Pay a visit to Conservatives4Palin.com. There, you'll find everything critical about Schmidt. There's a link to a Washington Times piece that denounces him as "a longtime loser," and a broadcast by an angry New York-based radio talk show host, Mark Levin.

"Steve you're quite the punk. You really are a punk," Levin said, incensed that Schmidt would dare to belittle McCain's vice presidential choice, Sarah Palin.

On the flip side, Schmidt has become a regular on MSNBC, offering a conservative counterpoint to the hosts' liberal slant. With Schmidt on hand to provide authentication, "Game Change" gave MSNBC folks plenty of dish about Palin. When I reached Schmidt by phone, he seemed to wear the attacks by Palin's acolytes like a badge of honor.

"I believe it is a profound mistake to define conservatism around issues like gay marriage and contraception," Schmidt told me, "and around a cult of personality, where a true conservative is defined by fidelity to individual radio hosts or the outrageous statements they make."

Conservative talkers are free to use supposedly public airwaves to hurl names at Schmidt. But he has hardly been a loser. Some of what he accomplished in his 41 years is enough to give nightmares to his MSNBC friends.

Schmidt got his start in politics in California as a 20-something aide who ran Tim Leslie's 1998 campaign for lieutenant governor and Matt Fong's U.S. Senate candidacy. Those humbling campaigns didn't work out well, and the New Jersey native made his way back East.

He became part of George W. Bush's 2004 re-election team, one of nine people who met regularly at the D.C. home of Bush's senior strategist, Karl Rove, who nicknamed him "Bullet." Schmidt framed a note he got after the victory: "Steve, I meant what I said Thursday. Victory would have been impossible without you. Best, Karl."

He has other keepsakes from those days: a tally card from the U.S. Senate, showing a 78-22 vote in 2005 to confirm John Roberts as chief justice of the United States, and a 2006 card showing the 58-42 vote for Justice Samuel Alito. Scribbled on a card is this note: "Steve, You do great work. 2 for 2 on the Supreme Court. Dick" – as in Vice President Cheney.

Republican strategist Ed Gillespie, who was counselor to Bush, led the Roberts confirmation effort with Schmidt's help; Schmidt took the lead on Alito.

"Steve played a very important role," Gillespie told me.

Schmidt came back West in 2006 to manage Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's re-election. The action hero won easily.

Schmidt was reluctant to sign on to the 2008 McCain campaign. It was grueling, commuting between Washington, Arizona and suburban Sacramento where he and his family lived. It became tougher after McCain selected Palin as his running mate, a move that Schmidt urged.

At the 2008 Republican National Convention in Minneapolis, there was a media onslaught when it became known that Palin's unmarried daughter Bristol was pregnant. Schmidt, a tough guy with the shaved head, bulled his way into the press area in the convention center, where he was immediately surrounded.

I was there and asked a question about the situation. Schmidt went off. No one would dare ask such questions about a man, he said, indignant. It was quite a show. In a quieter time that week, he said he was sorry, nice but not necessary. He had been playing his part.

While Palin was energizing the base in Minneapolis, Schmidt stepped out of character and went to a gathering of the Log Cabin Republicans, and told the organization of gay Republicans about how close he is to his sister and her partner. In what some conservatives see as an apostasy, he embraced the notion of same-sex marriage.

As some insiders see it, Schmidt violated consultants' unwritten rules by coming out as a "Game Change" source. But the resigned Alaska governor struck first, excoriating Schmidt in her 2009 book "Going Rogue."

In the movie, Harrelson offers a Schmidtism that news lasts for 48 hours. History lasts longer. This episode isn't over. It has to do with the future of the GOP.

Presidential politics shouldn't be a function of conspiracy theories and personal attacks, in which one candidate claims that a rival palled around with terrorists or about where he was born. As Schmidt believes, the nation's leaders ought to be better than that. Voters ought to demand it.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Fri 23 Mar, 2012 04:47 pm
The deep south state of Louisiana will hold its primary tomorrow. 46 delegates will be awarded proportionally on the basis of the votes cast by registered Repubs. Any candidate who garners fewer than 25% of the votes gets no delegates. Gingrich and Paul are unlikely to reach 25%.
Polls today show Santorum leading Romney by mid-double digits. He might get 28 delegates vs 18 for Romney.

Did you ever have an Etch-A-Sketch? I did and found it frustrating.
ossobuco
 
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Reply Fri 23 Mar, 2012 05:11 pm
@realjohnboy,
No, I'm not sure I even saw one. Maybe some of my cousins' sons had them as toys at some point. I have done etchings on both copper and zinc. One wants to ring one's own neck if one misdraws on the asphaltum. Not that that ruins the etching, but you have to start over..

The etch a sketch thing is an interesting analogy for some of the changes in politician's view. I think it's more general than just Romney.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 23 Mar, 2012 06:03 pm
@ossobuco,
Agreed; both party members do it, but the importance of the issues "might" be the difference between the two. We all observe different issues differently, and put different weights on them.

What I find most disturbing is about Romney's lies upon lies, but he seems to be the favorite for the GOP.
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roger
 
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Reply Fri 23 Mar, 2012 06:04 pm
@realjohnboy,
realjohnboy wrote:


Did you ever have an Etch-A-Sketch? I did and found it frustrating.


They told me it was a laptop, and I had to shake it to reboot.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Sat 24 Mar, 2012 04:23 pm
Turnout in the Repub primary in LA is reported to be very light. Great weather trumps political fervor, I guess.
Only 20 of the 46 delegates will get awarded today. Proportionally. Santorum will win most of them, but if we do the math he will lag far behind Romney.
Gingrich could fold his tent.
roger
 
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Reply Sat 24 Mar, 2012 05:33 pm
@realjohnboy,
Odd that great weather has the same effect on voting as terrible weather.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 24 Mar, 2012 06:10 pm
@roger,
Can we assume from this that weather has little influence on voting?
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Sat 24 Mar, 2012 06:18 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Great weather on a Saturday probably is a big deterrent to voting.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Sat 24 Mar, 2012 11:04 pm
@realjohnboy,
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/536005_406823082680484_205344452828349_1472766_1380518349_n.jpg
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2012 09:15 am
Rick Perry Gets Fresh With Former GOP Rivals
www.huffingtonpost.com
Rick Perry spoke at the annual Gridiron Dinner on Saturday evening, where he won over the exclusive crowd with a series of jokes on gay marriage and his former presidential primary opponents.


‎"The weakest Republican field in history, and they kicked my butt."
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2012 09:32 am
@edgarblythe,
See, now that's funny! Gotta love someone who can poke fun at themselves.

Cycloptichorn
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2012 12:04 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
The quip about his degree in animal husbandry and how Santorum might interpret that was awesome.
The turnout in the LA primary was not all that bad compared to 2008. Up, I believe. Santorum did better then the polls had suggested. That has to be a bit troubling for Romney. The exit polls had him down in all but the "people earning over $200K" category.
I am inclined to believe that many conservative voters will end up voting for Romney in November, if he is the nominee, because they dislike him less than Obama.
We get a week off ahead of primaries in Wisconsin, Maryland and D.C. on Apr 3rd. 98 delegates.
Starting tomorrow, the Supreme Court discusses the healthcare legislation.
I thought that there might be a thread about that on A2K by now.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 25 Mar, 2012 12:09 pm
@realjohnboy,
rjb, Why don't you start one on health care and the SC. Many are now benefiting from ObamaCare, and wonder what will happen to those people if it's overturned.

I, personally, thought ObamaCare was sloppy, and said so when the legislation was approved. I think there's a thread on a2k about it that has long been inactive.

The SC can demolish the whole program, just parts of it, or none of it. It should be interesting to see how the SC handles this issue.
 

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