The Winding Road To The Republican Nomination For President

@realjohnboy,

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Santorum. meanwhile, seems to be focusing on social issues.

Probably because they're more subjective, and therefore it's more difficult to refute a position using facts. Morals. Values. Notoriously unmeasurable.

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It Is Illinois, After All...
Early indications today suggest that turnout in the Republican primary is light to moderate. There have been reports of logistical problems with the voting process which have non-Romney supporters screaming "foul."
The "beauty contest" popular vote will probably have Romney winning by mid-double digits over Santorum (17%?). But Romney will likely end with a larger percentage of the delegates leaning towards him due to incompetence on the part of Santorum's campaign. Gingrich and Paul didn't have enough money to play and will be in single or low double digits.

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@hingehead,

Subjective is spot on! It's easy to twist social issues in so many different ways, nobody will know if the position of the candidate has changed. Look at the subject of contraception; how many different ways can one describe this issue?

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@realjohnboy,

I went to my polling place at 6:15, forty-five minutes before it closed. The election judge told me that there had been a total of two requests for Republican ballots all day.

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@joefromchicago,

What the hell does that mean, Joe?
24% of the vote in: Romney (56%); Santorum (27%); Paul (10%); Gingrich (7%).

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@realjohnboy,

realjohnboy wrote:

What the hell does that mean, Joe?

What are you having trouble with?

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Romney's staff got him in hot water on the right side of the fence this morning with a revealing response to a question:

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HOST: Is there a concern that Santorum and Gingrich might force the governor to tack so far to the right it would hurt him with moderate voters in the general election.

FEHRNSTROM: Well, I think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign. Everything changes. It’s almost like an Etch A Sketch. You can kind of shake it up and restart all of over again.

Needless to say, Conservatives are not pleased with this answer. At all.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

well no political folks like honesty

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@Cycloptichorn,

Heh.

February, 2012: "I'm severely conservative." -- Mitt Romney

July, 2012: "I'm an electable moderate." -- Mitt Romney

Conservatives in July 2012 (through November 2012 inclusive):

http://massrealestatevoice.com/image_store/uploads/5/5/9/7/1/ar126446242017955.JPG

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@sozobe,

Did you hear Romney's speech? He's telling the electorate that the election this year is about "economic freedom." What in hell does that mean? He's claiming that voting for him will provide "economic freedom." The audience clapped and shouted as if they knew what he was saying. They are too stupid to be voting.

I guess they hate the fact that Obama gave them a middle class tax cut, saved the auto industry, and reduced the deficit.

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@joefromchicago,

What is a "request for a Republican ballot"?

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@realjohnboy,

In Illinois, a voter can only vote in one party's primary. Consequently, a voter must choose whether he will vote in the Republican or Democratic primary election. Depending on that choice, he will either request a Republican or Democratic ballot. So when I said that there had only been two requests for Republican ballots, that meant there had only been two ballots cast in the Republican primary in that precinct all day.

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@joefromchicago,

Thanks, Joe. I was not aware of the details about the rules in IL.

Meanwhile the various campaigns had to disclose financial stuff by last night. The extended battle for the nomination is certainly getting expensive.
Romney's camp took in $11.9M in February and spent $12.3M. That left them with $7.3M in cash on hand. But that was ahead of the expensive IL primary.
His SuperPAC started out the year with $44M but that has now dwindled to $17.9M.
Santorum raised $9M in February and he spent $7.8M. He still has $2.6M but his SuperPAC is pretty much tapped out.
Gingrich and his SuperPac are out of money unless Adelson puts in some more.

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@realjohnboy,

Obama, on the other hand, pulled in 45 Million in February, and spent very little of it.

Cycloptichorn

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@Cycloptichorn,

I listen to NPR's Talk of the Nation, particularly on Wednesday's, when it is about politics. Today started about IL, but was followed by a discussion with someone named, I believe, Michael Duncan (I may have that wrong; I was listening while driving).
He was with the RNC and has worked with numerous Repub candidates over the years. I liked that he didn't slip into canned answers to embellish his own record or denigrate other people. He apparently is a bit of a political historian.
One comment that caught my ear had to do with how the Repubs got hurt in 2008 when there was an open race between the Dems and Repubs to succeed Bush. McCain won his party's nomination early while Hillary and Obama got all of the attention with their battle and McCain was largely ignored.
When running against an incumbent president, however, the party out of power needs to unite quickly behind a candidate, he argues. I think that is true.

But a party that is seriously divided on direction?

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@realjohnboy,

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But a party that is seriously divided on direction?

That's the reason why Obama doesn't need money to win his second term; he just needs to challenge all the lies and innuendos being spoken by the GOP candidates quickly with facts.

Worsening economy, job loss under Obama, government takeover of our economy, contraception is about freedom of religion, blame the president for high gas prices, worsening foreign relations, and ObamaCare will cost 1.3 million jobs.

It should be easy to defeat those damn liars.

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@cicerone imposter,

the problem is, there are a lot of stupid people that believe every word...

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@cicerone imposter,

Rachel Maddow is now providing the lies told by Romney; lies upon lies. This is the guy who supposedly got rich through deals with Bain Capital.

This was found on the internet.

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Romney made huge fortune while workers lost jobs, stockholders and creditors lost money.

Here's just one example:

In 1992, Mitt Romney was running Bain Capital, a private equity firm. Bain Capital bought American Pad & Paper Co. (Ampad) for $5 million.

Over the next several years Romney's firm bled the company dry. Hundreds of workers lost their jobs. Stockholders were left with worthless shares. Creditors and vendors were paid less than 50 cents on the dollar. While they were exploiting the company, Romney's firm charged Ampad millions of dollars in "management fees." In all, Romney and his investors reaped more than $100 million dollars from the deal.

In addition to being a compulsive liar, he's getting votes from conservatives and women. What's wrong with this picture? They want a compulsive liar to be our president?

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Rasmussen released another poll today showing Obama winning in Virginia - this time by 9 over Romney.

Romney can't lose Virginia and really hope to win the nomination without sweeping almost every other state. Please refer to:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html

Obama's up by an average of 5.2 in VA now over the last 4 polls. If this keeps up, that state is going to have to turn light blue on the map.

Cycloptichorn

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The Etch-A-Sketch thing is a bigger story today than it was yesterday. It's on every right-wing blog as a prime topic of discussion.

Cycloptichorn

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