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How old were you when you had your 1st boyfriend/girlfriend?

 
 
GracieGirl
 
  1  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 07:56 am
@FOUND SOUL,
FOUND SOUL wrote:

It's worth a try hun if you promise to limit it to that:)

You can only try.

Remember though your Dad loves you and you "are" still his princess, they hate seeing you grow up and they fear for you, that's normal, still be his little girl, you are allowed to grow up as well:)

Show him you are responsible that's all I am saying and don't expect "immediate" changes.

Geez you are bringing me back to my past in a big way lols

Smile


Yeah, I'll try. Thanks FOUND SOUL. Very Happy Mr. Green
Ticomaya
 
  3  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 08:15 am
@GracieGirl,
GracieGirl wrote:
And I'm friends with my dad on Facebook but we dont talk or play games or anything there. So, sometimes I forget that he's there and he's checking stuff and everything. He shouldn't be checking my stuff anyway. ...

I've got to disagree with you here, GG. He loves you, and that's why he's keeping tabs.

You know, there are some parents who don't care enough about their kids to do what your dad is doing. You are lucky to have him. I know that' hard for you to see and understand right now, but you will in time.
Ragman
 
  1  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 08:17 am
@GracieGirl,
OK, No offense but I'll withdraw from my commenting more. I'll read only onward from this point. Cool
GracieGirl
 
  1  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 08:18 am
@Ragman,
Ragman wrote:

Quote:
He shouldn't be checking my stuff anyway. I'm never on his Facebook page looking at all his stuff.


I feel your frustration as I experienced something similar as the son of someone whom I felt was an old-fashioned parent. This is where you're hazy about the role of a parent - your parent. It is the nature of children to want to push back against their parents control. 'The lessons you learn now will cement in your head how you'd do it differently as a parent.

He's the parent and 'cause he has this responsibility he feels that it's his job to watch over you. Yes, sadly... that means FB snooping, too. It's his right as a parent. When you're 16, it should be a bit different - not that it would be a consolation to you. When you're out from under his 'watch' it will be different.

Remember his job is to raise the best Gracie that he knows how. The way he chooses to do it (in this particular way) differs from your idea.
This is somehting you need to overcome but not avoid.

See if you can bring your b/f over for dinner and allow him to see how your b/f is up close. It might make all the difference. Show your dad you are not sneaking around and want him to know someone you like and who you feel that he should open his mind and heart to also.

Things WILL change. You'll change and he'll change. There are big changes from 14 to 16 and then 18. Just because you aren't aware of the change, it doesn't mean trhe change didn't happen and aren't going to happen.


I get what you're saying. I really really do. I know my dad loves me and it's his job to watch over me but still, he's not being fair. I'm not trying to push against his control, I just wanna have fun. I wanna date and hang out with guys like all my friends. I still don't see how that's such a bad thing. I hate it when he bosses me around for no reason. I get that it's parents 'job' to protect us but sometimes parents just need to back off. I know I sound bratty and I don't mean to but I hate this. I'm not doing anything wrong. I shouldn't be punished. And I'm sick of all the pointless rules and how he never listens to anything I say. I love my dad but he makes me hate him sometimes. I just want him to leave me alone and let me do what I want sometimes. He tries to control everything.
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GracieGirl
 
  1  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 08:27 am
@Ragman,
Ragman wrote:

The mistake we make as teens (or even from one decade to the next) is that we feel that the way we think at the moment is the way we'll think in the future. You can't possibly know how you will think in a year or two. You have to learn how to accept not having control and accept what you can't change.

That isn't to say that I think there is a thing wrong with you dating Colin or your relationship. However, your Dad needs you to show him that you are worthy of more trust. Remember the Fb entry was not wise but not the end of the world either.

This is what we learn from just living and observing. Only more life experience can give you that. No matter how smart and mature we are - even when we are ahead of the curve like I feel you are. Your perspective will change. That is what life teaches us. Same thing goes for me too.


I know what you mean and I think you're right. It's still annoying though and I'm still mad and it hurts my feelings alitte. I mean, he doesn't even trust me and he thinks I'm stupid and I don't know anything. He's my dad he should know that it's not like that. And no matter what I say he never listens. If I need to compromise and accept stuff then he needs to, too.
Just because he's old doesn't mean he knows everything and just because I'm young doesn't mean I dont know anything. I think I know just as much as he does.
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GracieGirl
 
  1  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 08:35 am
@Ragman,
Ragman wrote:

It's not a simple cut-and-dry issue, a we all can see ... based upon your being 2 years younger than some of your classmates. You have to be patient and keep keep talking it over with your Dad..but do NOT do things behind his back 'cause that would torpedo your relationship and would make him question your ability to be trusted more.

I wish you all the best with this issue, Gracie. For me to tell you that you should avoid rebelling would be to try turn the tide back. If you had a mother to bounce this off of it would be easier. Perhaps somehow if there were a third person to help moderate his stand it would make such a difference.


I'll talk to my dad and I don't wanna do things behind his back but I like Collin and I love dating him and I'm not gonna break up with him just because my dad's being weird about it. I'm gonna ask my dad about having Collin over for dinner. But if after dinner my dad still doesn't want me to date, I'm still gonna be with Collin because we aren't doing anything wrong.
GracieGirl
 
  1  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 08:41 am
@jespah,
jespah wrote:

GracieGirl wrote:
jespah wrote:
Hmm. I was first kissed when I was 9. But that was not a boyfriend, per se. I also "dated" in summer camp, which essentially meant you kissed (sometimes more, generally not) and also held hands and spent time together. That was early/mid-teens, 13, 14, that kinda thing.

Had my first real date-date I think when I was 15. Keep in mind I was younger than everyone because of when I'm born, plus I skipped a grade. So 15 meant I was in my junior year in High School. I went to a party with one guy named Tom and left with a different guy, also named Tom. Tom D. (the second one) and I dated all summer; he came to my house and met my folks. He was a sweet guy but not Jewish. My folks kinda liked him, though, despite the fact that he was a bit long-haired; he was going to go to college for engineering, and was a year ahead of me (his sister and I were in class together).

It ended when he went off to college, to Drexel University. He had won a local scholarship and all. I remember hearing about him when he graduated college; he turned around and funded a scholarship for another kid to come after him. Dunno what happened to him but I imagine he is designing bridges somewhere. Smile


You had your first kiss when you were 9?! Laughing
I had my first 'real' kiss with Collin last week at lunch. It lasted about 5 seconds but it was perfect except his lips were chapped.
So, you started dating at 15. That's a year and a half away for me. Too long.

I skipped grades too. So, even though I'm 13 I'm a sophomore and all the kids in my class are 15 and 16 but I hang out with my bestfriend Natalie and her friends and they're 16 and 17. So 'all' my friends are dating.

Haha! I like your Tom story. Smile You're Jewish? Jewish confuses me alittle. Is that a religion or race? Aren't you blonde? I thought all Jewish people were dark haired.


Well, at nine, with Robbie, it was more like he just grabbed me. It was during a field trip.

And the 15 thing was real dating, as in he would come to the house, etc. and we would go out for an ice cream cone or to the movies or whatever. I did kiss guys in between (mainly at summer camp, probably because there was less parental hovering and the freedom of summer, plus the idea was that it would not last/peers would not see). But I don't remember actually seeing anyone for more than once or twice until Tom D. (then Steve after him, then Chris - I thought I was in love with Chris -, right before college. College was a very different story).

I know what you mean about seeing everyone else doing these things and you can't/people think you're too young, etc. I was 13 and I was in 9th grade. Everyone else was coming up on 15. There were definitely couples. For me, it felt lonely, like I was left out.

Yeah, I'm a nice Jewish gal (it's a religion, not a race. There are black people who are Jews!). The current hair color is from a bottle but I really was a blonde kid. There are those of us with some Polish ancestry. But only a few of my cousins on either side of the family are blonde. RP is also Jewish and he's auburn. We'll have a Chanukah party here with Roberta, Ragman, jcboy and anyone else in the tribe. Of course everyone is invited.


Yea! See, you DO get what I mean. I do feel left out when all my friends are talking about their boyfriends and relationship stuff or when they're out on dates. I wanna do that stuff too.

And I always thought Jewish was a race. How did the Nazis know if someone was Jewish or not? I never understood that. I asked my teacher but I don't think she explained it.
Ragman
 
  2  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 08:49 am
@GracieGirl,
You go, girl.

You show here that you have the ability to listen to reason and hear advice despite your strongly held views. I'm confident (once again) that you'll do fine with this and other issues in your life. You make us 'adults' glad we talk to you to help you sort things out.

Just please don't say this again: "he makes me hate him". I cringe when I read that. Also, you need to know you are in a power struggle. Power struggles like this have always been there with teens and their parents. We've all been there. Where yours differs is that you might need another adult person to help smooth this out a bit more and not make it so arbitrary and rigid.

I feel strongly that you'll come out of this issue a wiser and stronger person. AFTER you have Colin over for dinner let's see what happens. I would hope and think that he will back off, too ... but if not, I'd be pushing for a 3rd adult to help HIM moderate his stand. God knows how you two will work that scenario out...but it's a good idea nonetheless.
jcboy
 
  9  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 08:58 am
I kind of had a girlfriend when I was 16, her name was Christina. I think it last all of a week. I ended it when she wanted to do something nasty to me. Ewe!
GracieGirl
 
  1  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 09:27 am
@Ticomaya,
Ticomaya wrote:

GracieGirl wrote:
And I'm friends with my dad on Facebook but we dont talk or play games or anything there. So, sometimes I forget that he's there and he's checking stuff and everything. He shouldn't be checking my stuff anyway. ...

I've got to disagree with you here, GG. He loves you, and that's why he's keeping tabs.

You know, there are some parents who don't care enough about their kids to do what your dad is doing. You are lucky to have him. I know that' hard for you to see and understand right now, but you will in time.



I know he loves me and he's a great dad. He's awesome except when he's being overprotective and super strict.
I get that he's watching out for me but come on, I'm a teenager now. I'm not a kid anymore. I dont need him checking my Facebook or reading my text messages or having all his rules. He's making me wanna get as far away from him as I can. I can't wait to leave for college.
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GracieGirl
 
  2  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 09:32 am
@Ragman,
Ragman wrote:

OK, No offense but I'll withdraw from my commenting more. I'll read only onward from this point. Cool


OK. No offense taken. I know we've been going back and forth alot. But I really do get what you were saying and I think you're right even though I don't like everything you said. I liked hearing your opinion and stuff. I understand where my dads coming from alittle more now but I still think he's wrong.
Anyway, thanks Ragman! Comment or just read, I don't mind. Smile
jespah
 
  3  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 10:15 am
@GracieGirl,
GracieGirl wrote:
jespah wrote:
GracieGirl wrote:
jespah wrote:
Hmm. I was first kissed when I was 9. But that was not a boyfriend, per se. I also "dated" in summer camp, which essentially meant you kissed (sometimes more, generally not) and also held hands and spent time together. That was early/mid-teens, 13, 14, that kinda thing.

Had my first real date-date I think when I was 15. Keep in mind I was younger than everyone because of when I'm born, plus I skipped a grade. So 15 meant I was in my junior year in High School. I went to a party with one guy named Tom and left with a different guy, also named Tom. Tom D. (the second one) and I dated all summer; he came to my house and met my folks. He was a sweet guy but not Jewish. My folks kinda liked him, though, despite the fact that he was a bit long-haired; he was going to go to college for engineering, and was a year ahead of me (his sister and I were in class together).

It ended when he went off to college, to Drexel University. He had won a local scholarship and all. I remember hearing about him when he graduated college; he turned around and funded a scholarship for another kid to come after him. Dunno what happened to him but I imagine he is designing bridges somewhere. Smile


You had your first kiss when you were 9?! Laughing
I had my first 'real' kiss with Collin last week at lunch. It lasted about 5 seconds but it was perfect except his lips were chapped.
So, you started dating at 15. That's a year and a half away for me. Too long.

I skipped grades too. So, even though I'm 13 I'm a sophomore and all the kids in my class are 15 and 16 but I hang out with my bestfriend Natalie and her friends and they're 16 and 17. So 'all' my friends are dating.

Haha! I like your Tom story. Smile You're Jewish? Jewish confuses me alittle. Is that a religion or race? Aren't you blonde? I thought all Jewish people were dark haired.


Well, at nine, with Robbie, it was more like he just grabbed me. It was during a field trip.

And the 15 thing was real dating, as in he would come to the house, etc. and we would go out for an ice cream cone or to the movies or whatever. I did kiss guys in between (mainly at summer camp, probably because there was less parental hovering and the freedom of summer, plus the idea was that it would not last/peers would not see). But I don't remember actually seeing anyone for more than once or twice until Tom D. (then Steve after him, then Chris - I thought I was in love with Chris -, right before college. College was a very different story).

I know what you mean about seeing everyone else doing these things and you can't/people think you're too young, etc. I was 13 and I was in 9th grade. Everyone else was coming up on 15. There were definitely couples. For me, it felt lonely, like I was left out.

Yeah, I'm a nice Jewish gal (it's a religion, not a race. There are black people who are Jews!). The current hair color is from a bottle but I really was a blonde kid. There are those of us with some Polish ancestry. But only a few of my cousins on either side of the family are blonde. RP is also Jewish and he's auburn. We'll have a Chanukah party here with Roberta, Ragman, jcboy and anyone else in the tribe. Of course everyone is invited.


Yea! See, you DO get what I mean. I do feel left out when all my friends are talking about their boyfriends and relationship stuff or when they're out on dates. I wanna do that stuff too.

And I always thought Jewish was a race. How did the Nazis know if someone was Jewish or not? I never understood that. I asked my teacher but I don't think she explained it.


I think there's something about skipping a grade (or more) that is an experience that other people just don't share. I don't mean to sound snobbish. It's more like - life is different. These days, I am often the oldest person in my group, but for years I was the youngest. I think as a teen there's a feeling that you're missing out. You do find yourself feeling left out and odd in both camps, whether it's the people in your grade (who are older) or the ones who are your age (who are a year or so behind you). Eek!

As for how the Nazis knew - lotsa reasons. Census records, for one. People would identify their religion, and they had for a long time before the Nazis came to power. People went to synagogue, or they had years before. Their last names. Their looks (yes, though that wasn't necessarily reliable). And their lovely neighbors would rat them out, too.

But a lot of people were righteous and hated what was happening in Germany, Holland and other places where the Nazis were. Anne Frank and her family (you may have read her diary. If you haven't, it's an outstanding book) were hidden by a family friend named Miep Gies. Oskar Schindler used bribery and exaggerrated manpower needs (he made a list) to get Jews to work in his factory, rather than have them sent to concentration camps. The Steven Spielberg film, Schindler's List, is about this. It is an excellent film but it is difficult viewing. And these weren't the only folks who did this.
Ticomaya
 
  2  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 11:56 am
@jespah,
jespah wrote:
I think there's something about skipping a grade (or more) that is an experience that other people just don't share. I don't mean to sound snobbish. It's more like - life is different. These days, I am often the oldest person in my group, but for years I was the youngest. I think as a teen there's a feeling that you're missing out. You do find yourself feeling left out and odd in both camps, whether it's the people in your grade (who are older) or the ones who are your age (who are a year or so behind you). Eek!

I am also a member of that group of kids who skipped a grade. I skipped Kindergarten, so I was always the youngest in my grade -- not as young as GG, mind you. But I never had any issues, socially or academically, because of being the youngest. I was still one of the biggest kids in my grade. If I had not skipped a grade, I would have been a monster on the athletic field my senior year (when I was a Freshman in college).

My first "real" girlfriend was when I was 15 (barely). I was a Sophomore, and she was a <gasp> Senior.

Eva
 
  2  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 12:16 pm
@GracieGirl,
GracieGirl wrote:
...I don't know why I put it on Facebook. I was just excited and happy and I wanted all my friends to know. And I'm friends with my dad on Facebook but we dont talk or play games or anything there. So, sometimes I forget that he's there and he's checking stuff and everything. He shouldn't be checking my stuff anyway. I'm never on his Facebook page looking at all his stuff. That's why I don't even like going to my Facebook page to talk to friends anymore. He's soo annoying. Rolling Eyes


He wouldn't have to snoop, Gracie. It would have popped up on his News Feed. Whenever you change your relationship status, it's like making an announcement to the whole world. Everyone on your friends list is notified. If your dad changed his relationship status because of a girlfriend, it would pop up on your News Feed as well.
GracieGirl
 
  1  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 01:00 pm
@jespah,
jespah wrote:

GracieGirl wrote:
jespah wrote:
GracieGirl wrote:
jespah wrote:
Hmm. I was first kissed when I was 9. But that was not a boyfriend, per se. I also "dated" in summer camp, which essentially meant you kissed (sometimes more, generally not) and also held hands and spent time together. That was early/mid-teens, 13, 14, that kinda thing.

Had my first real date-date I think when I was 15. Keep in mind I was younger than everyone because of when I'm born, plus I skipped a grade. So 15 meant I was in my junior year in High School. I went to a party with one guy named Tom and left with a different guy, also named Tom. Tom D. (the second one) and I dated all summer; he came to my house and met my folks. He was a sweet guy but not Jewish. My folks kinda liked him, though, despite the fact that he was a bit long-haired; he was going to go to college for engineering, and was a year ahead of me (his sister and I were in class together).

It ended when he went off to college, to Drexel University. He had won a local scholarship and all. I remember hearing about him when he graduated college; he turned around and funded a scholarship for another kid to come after him. Dunno what happened to him but I imagine he is designing bridges somewhere. Smile


You had your first kiss when you were 9?! Laughing
I had my first 'real' kiss with Collin last week at lunch. It lasted about 5 seconds but it was perfect except his lips were chapped.
So, you started dating at 15. That's a year and a half away for me. Too long.

I skipped grades too. So, even though I'm 13 I'm a sophomore and all the kids in my class are 15 and 16 but I hang out with my bestfriend Natalie and her friends and they're 16 and 17. So 'all' my friends are dating.

Haha! I like your Tom story. Smile You're Jewish? Jewish confuses me alittle. Is that a religion or race? Aren't you blonde? I thought all Jewish people were dark haired.


Well, at nine, with Robbie, it was more like he just grabbed me. It was during a field trip.

And the 15 thing was real dating, as in he would come to the house, etc. and we would go out for an ice cream cone or to the movies or whatever. I did kiss guys in between (mainly at summer camp, probably because there was less parental hovering and the freedom of summer, plus the idea was that it would not last/peers would not see). But I don't remember actually seeing anyone for more than once or twice until Tom D. (then Steve after him, then Chris - I thought I was in love with Chris -, right before college. College was a very different story).

I know what you mean about seeing everyone else doing these things and you can't/people think you're too young, etc. I was 13 and I was in 9th grade. Everyone else was coming up on 15. There were definitely couples. For me, it felt lonely, like I was left out.

Yeah, I'm a nice Jewish gal (it's a religion, not a race. There are black people who are Jews!). The current hair color is from a bottle but I really was a blonde kid. There are those of us with some Polish ancestry. But only a few of my cousins on either side of the family are blonde. RP is also Jewish and he's auburn. We'll have a Chanukah party here with Roberta, Ragman, jcboy and anyone else in the tribe. Of course everyone is invited.


Yea! See, you DO get what I mean. I do feel left out when all my friends are talking about their boyfriends and relationship stuff or when they're out on dates. I wanna do that stuff too.

And I always thought Jewish was a race. How did the Nazis know if someone was Jewish or not? I never understood that. I asked my teacher but I don't think she explained it.


I think there's something about skipping a grade (or more) that is an experience that other people just don't share. I don't mean to sound snobbish. It's more like - life is different. These days, I am often the oldest person in my group, but for years I was the youngest. I think as a teen there's a feeling that you're missing out. You do find yourself feeling left out and odd in both camps, whether it's the people in your grade (who are older) or the ones who are your age (who are a year or so behind you). Eek!

As for how the Nazis knew - lotsa reasons. Census records, for one. People would identify their religion, and they had for a long time before the Nazis came to power. People went to synagogue, or they had years before. Their last names. Their looks (yes, though that wasn't necessarily reliable). And their lovely neighbors would rat them out, too.

But a lot of people were righteous and hated what was happening in Germany, Holland and other places where the Nazis were. Anne Frank and her family (you may have read her diary. If you haven't, it's an outstanding book) were hidden by a family friend named Miep Gies. Oskar Schindler used bribery and exaggerrated manpower needs (he made a list) to get Jews to work in his factory, rather than have them sent to concentration camps. The Steven Spielberg film, Schindler's List, is about this. It is an excellent film but it is difficult viewing. And these weren't the only folks who did this.


I think you're soo right about the skipping grades thing. It's hard being younger than everyone else sometimes and some people just don't get it. I just started 'fitting in' this year. I think my friends forget how much younger I am sometimes. I don't look younger anymore and I act just like they do and I think I'm just as mature as they are. I'm probably MORE mature than they are but they still get to do more stuff than me. It sucks. And I don't really hang out with other 13 year olds. Me and my sister are the only 13 year olds at our high school and we don't hang out with any younger kids in our neighborhood. I take gymnastics with one girl, Sydney and she's 13 but she'll be 14 in January I think. We're friends but we don't hang out much because I'm into different stuff. I don't know, it's weird.

I read The Diary of Anne Frank and it was soo good and I cried. I read it in 6th grade I think. Thanks for clearing the whole religion or race thing up for me. I learned about the Holocaust and all that last month I think. I never understood how they knew who was Jewish and who wasn't. I mean, I can't really tell. I can't look at someone and be like 'Oh you're Jewish!'.
Oh! And did you see that movie "It's a Beautiful Life"? I think that's what it's called. It's the saddest movie ever. I cried and cried and cried. Sad


shewolfnm
 
  4  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 01:00 pm
@jcboy,
jcboy wrote:

I kind of had a girlfriend when I was 16, her name was Christina. I think it last all of a week. I ended it when she wanted to do something nasty to me. Ewe!


Laughing Laughing Laughing
I think I broke a rib
Laughing Laughing Laughing
GracieGirl
 
  1  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 01:03 pm
@Ticomaya,
I skipped Kindergarten too. Smile
I dont know, maybe because you were bigger it was easy for you to fit in. I mean, you weren't noticeably smaller or younger. Plus you were a boy. I dont think parents give boys as many rules as girls. It's soo sexist. You could do all the things your friends could, right?
ossobuco
 
  1  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 01:07 pm
@jespah,
Responding quickly to Jes - will be back at ya, Gracie, re your thoughts and my thoughts.

I've read about the carabinieri in Rome warning the Jews of nazi raid timing.
People in Pitigliano helped hide the local jews in caves. There was a lot of bad stuff going on in Italy too, but not everyone was horrid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitigliano
I might have read that in Barzini's book, The Italians.

Re the carabinieri, maybe in Branko Bokun's book, Spy in the Vatican (well, that's another story, re his trying to tell Cardinal Montini (a later pope Paul) about massacres by the Ustache Croats).

End of digression, back to dating..
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GracieGirl
 
  1  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 01:07 pm
@Eva,
Eva wrote:

GracieGirl wrote:
...I don't know why I put it on Facebook. I was just excited and happy and I wanted all my friends to know. And I'm friends with my dad on Facebook but we dont talk or play games or anything there. So, sometimes I forget that he's there and he's checking stuff and everything. He shouldn't be checking my stuff anyway. I'm never on his Facebook page looking at all his stuff. That's why I don't even like going to my Facebook page to talk to friends anymore. He's soo annoying. Rolling Eyes


He wouldn't have to snoop, Gracie. It would have popped up on his News Feed. Whenever you change your relationship status, it's like making an announcement to the whole world. Everyone on your friends list is notified. If your dad changed his relationship status because of a girlfriend, it would pop up on your News Feed as well.


Oh yeah! I forgot about that. But still, he's the one who 'insists' that we be friends on facebook. So, I know it's because he wants to snoop around.
And Facebook is soo stupid. The News Feed is soo pointless and stalkerish. They keep changing stuff for no reason. Facebook was fine the way it was before.
GracieGirl
 
  2  
Sun 4 Dec, 2011 01:08 pm
@shewolfnm,
shewolfnm wrote:

jcboy wrote:

I kind of had a girlfriend when I was 16, her name was Christina. I think it last all of a week. I ended it when she wanted to do something nasty to me. Ewe!


Laughing Laughing Laughing
I think I broke a rib
Laughing Laughing Laughing


You & jcboy are freaks. Razz
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