I wasn't exactly thinking about my dad when it happened...
Quote:Im NOT childish and I'm wayy more mature than other 13 year olds ... I understand NO just fine. Doesnt mean I'm gonna listen when I hear it.
Actually, that sounds like quite a lot of 13 year olds.
* ding ding ding*
still love ya gracie.. but...
*ding ding ding*
Does anyone miss being 13?
Thanks Thomas!! Exactly! You're the only one who gets that.
Quote:A mature teen has condoms even though they may not want sex because they KNOW it can happen. Doesnt make them bad.. just makes them smart.
And isnt it the boy's job to get condoms?
Quote:Well, I don't think that's quite fair.
The whole "stopping him from kissing you" thing. She likes him, and has for a long time, and he asks her out (yay!) and then kisses her (yay!) -- these are things she's happy about, and I think that's fine. I don't think that in and of itself it's anything she has to feel bad about. It also doesn't sound like it was something where impulse and emotion were really the main factors -- she wanted to kiss him before the kiss, she wanted to kiss him during the kiss, she wanted to kiss him after the kiss. Not something she regretted.
I think we may be viewing the sequence of events differently, possibly because we don't have that many details.
I'm not under the impression that Collin actually asked Gracie out, on a date, the way you or I might think of it--Do you want to get some pizza after school? Want to go to a movie with me? Want to go to the mall on Saturday?--nor does it sound like they have ever actually been on "a date" of that type.
It sounds more like Collin, who Gracie has been in classes with for years, suddenly started paying more attention to her in school, and they began talking more in school, and then he kissed her, in school.
That's my understanding of events from Gracie's description, and it was in that context that I made my remarks.
The impression I have is that the timeline is something like this:
- For a while now, she's liked Collin (more than just this year)
- He asked her out. (When I said that I didn't mean "would you like to go to Penny's Pizza joint on Friday?", I meant the more colloquial version: verbally expressing interest in her in the form of a question, which she answered in the affirmative.)
Then after that, and not immediately, these things happened, though I'm not sure which first:
- They kissed.
- She changed her Facebook status to "in a relationship."
Then after that:
- Her dad saw the Facebook status, and didn't like it one bit.
Lissa dates whoever she wants whenever she wants. She just broke up with a guy who was 16 and I thought she had sex but she didnt. She did some stuff though. She thinks its stupid that Im arguing with dad. She thinks I should just tell him what he wants to hear. Maybe I should, but it doesnt feel right. And I still dont feel like Im doing anything wrong, so why should I have to hide it, ya know?
....I thank Murphy every day for not being a woman. Otherwise I'd have to go to go through all that hormonal stuff again about now. (I'm 42.)
Gracie, what kind of dating was your brother allowed to do at 13, and how is it different from the kind of dating you wish to do with Collin?
ossobuco wrote:I need to review. I thought the brother was younger.
There is an older brother and a younger brother. A couple of posts ago, I linked to the post where she talks about the older brother.
I've never really had a "true" girlfriend, it's kinda complicated, but there is this girl I've been in love with since I was 16, I'm 18 now and we still see each other but were merely just friends DX
I also recently had a "boyfriend" for about 3 weeks but that didn't really work out too well v,v
I still have more soul searching to do I guess XD
EDIT---I didn't realize this post had 12 pages o.o
This all sounds like I'm a fear of sex person - quite the opposite. I love it.
Slow is good.
Statutory rape... Has this been mentioned yet? Do you know what would happen if you had sex with Collin say in 6 months time? Collin would be charged with statutory rape with a minor, heavy duty, jaol, for minors, a boys home, a criminal record, no hope of a decent job.
If you don't think you "love" him, then it's just the desire in my opinion to have what your sister has, what your brother had, being rebelious, wanting to win, do what you want...But, you are doing it at a cost, to someone else, Collin, he has to keep it in his pants ...
Have you asked your dad why it's sixteen for you and thirteen for your brother? Your father is a jurist. Perhaps he could be persuaded, or at least embarrassed into giving ground, by having to explain his discrimination.