Rioting spreading through London & to other English cities.

This may not be as smooth as it seems. The Tories have made a great thing about immigration, and as things stand they will not be able to employ him unless they change their own immigration legislation. Also there's a lot of ruffled feathers amongst senior British police officers, who are already angry with the Tories over the riots, and the politicisation of the police. The Tories want to bring in elected police commissioners, despite there being very little support for it among the police or the general population.

We don't do policing by force. Anybody can cut crime using force.

The "crisis" is a Media event. It's like football highlights programmes that just show the goals and the sending offs. A complete distortion. Nothing to do with football actually.

We trust our cops. I'm not convinced we trust Cameron. I certainly don't.

Ah I see, Izzy. Thanks.
But it sounds (from the Guardian article) like he's already been ruled out from taking the top job but will have a considerable influence on the government, anyway.
As Cameron's advisor on police matters.
Sounds to me like their might be even more conflict brewing (if his advice differs from Scotland Yard) between the government & the police.

Also very much a political event, by the sounds of it.

Elected police commissioners?

Politicizing policing?

Madness.

Media is the political event of our era. It's been rioting and looting for a very long time. The riots in London were a mere incident. A serious one but an incident nevertheless. Media is an ongoing racket of counterjumping criminality. It will do us all in.

there might be more conflict...
Don't you just hate it when you do that & can't change it?

Carry on now ....

You love it Olga. And Media knows you do. It gives meaning to sitting in front of the idiot box. They are so corrupt they don't even know it. Wicked is when you know it. Evil is when you don't.

Zing...there it goes...right over your head lol.

ETA: Yes, MsOlga...I chalk it up to fast typing...but I definitely know what you mean

Thank you for your understanding & sympathy, Irishk.

You're welcome. Now if we could only do something about those hampsters...

And hamsters lol.

You know, spendius, I receive very little of my news from television.
These days it's mainly from a variety of online sources & (ABC) radio.
But I do know what you mean (I think).
You can read about the same event from a few different sources & wonder if you're actually reading about the same event at all ...
(Which brings me back to the Murdoch press (especially in Oz).... but I will resist the urge to go there again!)

You seem to understand this rather well!

What do I know about religious altars; I'm Jewish.

Please show me the statistics that most white parents do not care if a child marries out of the race. Many parents, possibly a majority, might even prefer their children to marry within the same religion (i.e, Jewish, Catholic, Protestant, etc.)

However, being a bigot as a private citizen is not wrong in the U.S.A., as long as I do not act out any bigotry in an unlawful manner. I may give all the Jews I meet a red lollipop, and not give any lollipops to people of other faiths; that is my right to discriminate in a lawful manner.

Actually, I would give a red lollipop to all Republicans; none to Democrats; regardless of religious affiliation.

Also, as a Jew, am I supposed to show that I am not anti-German by visiting Germany, rather than bypass it on some vacation (that I do not go on anyway). I believe I have every right to avoid Germany, and its native citizens, based on my awareness of history. Now do not assume that is blaming today's generation of native Germans for the Holocaust. It is my way to say, wait 500 or so years (a la the Spanish Inquisition) to have Jews feel comfortable in Germany. Just a lesson about how elephants and Jews do not forget.

(Damn. Looks like more bun fighting coming up.
And here I was thinking I'd almost gotten the tread back on topic! Back in England, even . )

Yep MzO - looks like a couple of folks need to eat more fibre!

night MzO xxxx

Yup!
Night night, possum.
Sweet dreams.

before I go tho... laughing

[quote="izzythepush"]
I've known a few Cornishmen who feel like that, when they pop over the border into Devon.
[/quote]

ha, ya cheeky "grockle" ahaahhahah Much worse when folk cross the t'other side of the border

lalllaa

I iz A Cider Drinker
When the moon shines on the cow shed
And we're rollin' in the hay
All the cows are out there grazing
And the milk is on its way

Chorus:
I am a cider drinker
I drinks it all of the day
I am a cider drinker
It soothes all me troubles away
Ooh aargh ooh argh aay

It's so comely in the kitchen
The smell of rabbit stew
When the breeze blows past the farmyard
You can smell the cow sheds too
When those combine wheels stops turning
And a hard day's work is done
There's a pub around the corner
It's the place we have our fun

Chorus:
I am a cider drinker
I drinks it all of the day
I am a cider drinker
It soothes all me troubles away
Ooh aargh ooh argh aay

Now dear old Mabel, when she's able
We takes a stroll down lover's lane
And we'll sink a pint of Sproffey
And we'll play old natures game
But we end up in the duck pond
The pub is sized to close
With me breeches full of tadpoles
And the newts between me toes

Chorus:
I am a cider drinker
I drinks it all of the day
I am a cider drinker
It soothes all me troubles away
Ooh aargh ooh argh aay
Ooh aargh ooh argh aay (x3)

LET CIDER BE THE SPICE OF LIFE!

All done in the best poooossible taste I'zy, as Mr Everett would have said

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