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Rioting spreading through London & to other English cities.

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 24 Aug, 2011 12:22 am
@roger,
roger wrote:

He got that monicker when he passed through Albuquerque on the way to Hollywood. Though it's misspelled, the town is named after the Duke of Alburquerque.
You have been a contestant on Jeopardy! I hope, with that kind of trivia floating around in your brain.....
McTag
 
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Reply Thu 25 Aug, 2011 02:03 am

The police handled this very badly.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14646187
roger
 
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Reply Thu 25 Aug, 2011 02:17 am
@hawkeye10,
Oh, alRIGHT! The town took it's name from the Duke. I made up the part about John Wayne.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 25 Aug, 2011 03:18 am
@roger,
Don't worry, Hawkeye didn't notice.
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McTag
 
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Reply Thu 25 Aug, 2011 03:40 am
@roger,

You don't spell Albuquerque that way, as far as I am aware.
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 25 Aug, 2011 04:53 am
@McTag,
You have to admit Mac that the Haringey Borough Commander is not bad looking.
McTag
 
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Reply Thu 25 Aug, 2011 11:51 am
@spendius,
Gratified the somebody actually opened the link and read it...though admittedly you didn't go as far as claiming to have done that.
I always thought the police did this all wrong. Their own elf 'n safety seems to be their overriding concern, which it shouldn't be, in my opinion. Not when the stakes are so high.

Yes, women in uniform, eh?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Thu 15 Sep, 2011 10:05 am
This report fuels the suspicion that the English judiciary was not left to make its own decisions about the flood of alleged rioters coming through the courts, but was subject to pressure from ministers.
Quote:
Magistrates were urged to abandon sentencing guidelines when dealing with rioters last month because "nothing like this was envisaged", according to court documents released to the Guardian.



And this article highlights the fact that piling large numbers of people into prisons, whether sentenced or on remand, can cause collateral damage within the system.
Quote:
An influx of more than 1,000 prisoners in the immediate aftermath of the riots that hit England last month has fuelled gang culture in prisons and led to serious incidents, the chief inspector of prisons said yesterdayon Wednesday.
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 15 Sep, 2011 11:54 am
@Walter Hinteler,
That might have been the general idea Walt. Collateral damage and increased gang culture calls for more spending to counteract them.

Isn't Clockwork Orange based on the idea that such processes eventually runaway with expenditure until the point is reached where some cheaper method is required.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 15 Sep, 2011 12:11 pm
@spendius,
Yarbles.
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roger
 
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Reply Thu 15 Sep, 2011 01:28 pm
@McTag,
McTag wrote:


You don't spell Albuquerque that way, as far as I am aware.


Well, they darn sure used to. http://www.cabq.gov/museum/history/foundingabq.html
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 18 Oct, 2011 11:37 am
Lord Judge, the Lord Chief Justice, as president of the appeal court (Queen's Bench Court) has taken a firm line on offences committed in the context of the recent riots ...

Judgement Approved by the court for handling down
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 18 Oct, 2011 11:40 am
@Walter Hinteler,
The most controversial cases are the two guys who organised riots that never happened. Their sentences have been upheld, but those who handled stolen goods have had their sentences cut.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jan, 2012 07:34 pm
@McTag,
Quote:
Cop: May I enter your house to look for illegal items?
Citizen: Yes
Cop: thank you *enters*

McTag wrote:
Let's go back to this for a moment.

It was apparently written with irony intended, but it all depends on your relationship with the local police.
The relationship between the law-abiding citizenry and the police should be one of trust and cooperation.

My reply would be "Of course, I have nothing to hide. Be careful to wipe your feet, and don't wake the dog."
Every citizen whose I.Q. exceeds (or at least equals) that of a moron
shud know that the relationship between government and the Individual citizen is ADVERSARIAL.

Personal freedom and privacy, on the one hand

and

jurisdiction of government on the other hand, are INVERSELY PROPORTIONAL.


( It also boggles the mind that Mr. McTag wants an agent of government
rifling thru his personal belongings, making an inevitable mess in his house; very odd; perhaps a strange fetish ?
He did not say what he does with the police officer, when he finishes searching.)

Note also the oxymoron (or near oxymoron)
of "law abiding citizen"; like unicorns, thay cannot exist.





David
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jan, 2012 02:34 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Every citizen whose I.Q. exceeds (or at least equals) that of a moron
shud know that the relationship between government and the Individual citizen is ADVERSARIAL.


What happens if we win Dave?

And you cheated Mac. He never said he "wanted" the cops at his door.
spendius
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jan, 2012 02:39 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
The odd thing Dave is that we never see you chained to the White House railings in an all-weather, six months protest.

Your militancy seem to be something between you and your dressing table mirror. A serious fetish.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jan, 2012 07:39 pm
@spendius,
and spendi's cumulative courage of conviction is directly proportional to that evening's intake of suds.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2012 02:55 am
@spendius,

DAVID wrote:
Every citizen whose I.Q. exceeds (or at least equals) that of a moron
shud know that the relationship between government and the Individual citizen is ADVERSARIAL.
spendius wrote:

What happens if we win Dave?
Then the jurisdiction of government
is curtailed, degraded and strangled, operating to the GLORY
of freedom of the Individual.

spendius wrote:
And you cheated Mac. He never said he "wanted" the cops at his door.
I disagree: he wrote of the intrusion of government WITH APPROVAL,
as if there were nothing rong with it.
Ergo, he wants that to be the status quo.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2012 02:59 am
@spendius,
spendius wrote:
The odd thing Dave is that we never see you chained to the
White House railings in an all-weather, six months protest.
I am not deluded so badly as to believe that it 'd have any helpful effect.




spendius wrote:
Your militancy seem to be something between you and your dressing table mirror. A serious fetish.
I offer my best libertarian exhortations to the electorate.





David
McTag
 
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Reply Tue 10 Jan, 2012 03:30 am
@OmSigDAVID,

Quote:
I am not deluded so badly as to believe that it 'd have any helpful effect.


Oh, I don't know.
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