Rioting spreading through London & to other English cities.

@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

I hope that u did not beat him up and strip him.

You miss the good 'ole days riding with the klan don't you?

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@izzythepush,

But he does love the attention!

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@JPB,

I just want what he's been smoking.

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@izzythepush,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

I 'm just glad that I don 't have
any weeping, naked men on MY conscience.

izzythepush wrote:

What on earth have you and your NRA buddies been up to?

We have been up to the utter extirpation
of any government control of guns
and up to the defeat of any politicians who have supported it.

David

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@izzythepush,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

I hope that u did not beat him up and strip him.

izzythepush wrote:

You miss the good 'ole days riding with the klan don't you?

No. That 's too much trouble n time consuming.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

Thanks for the kinds words but I ran into those lectures too far into the past to remember where and how I first came across them.

Your story remind me of another example of not keeping your mouth shut and that the police are free to lied to you.

In Miami the first black police officer hired by the city was kill with a rifle bullet and a long life time later a tip came in that a teenager at the time did the deed.

No evidence at all as the tip came by way of a wife who now dead husband gave her the information on his death bed and deal in any case with an event fifty/sixty years or more in the past.

The Miami police track the man name down in New York City where he had live a criminal free life and now have great grand kids.

They ask him to confessed so they could clean up this old crime implying or telling him that they was not interested in charging him fifty or sixty years after the fact.

He confessor and of course they charge him and drag his rear end back to face the charge that only his confession supported.

It came out that the first black police officer had the habit of beating the area black teenagers including the shooter and that along with the fact that there was no indication that he broke one other law in his long life a deal was done and he was allow to go home to New York.

Here all he needed to do was keep his mouth shut and that would had been the end of the matter in the first place.

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@izzythepush,

To me it's just a really bizarre way of thinking - no matter how many times I look at it, and I'm trying to understand why he would think that - I can't even begin to understand why he believes this. Barking. Too much time reading and entering the world of conspiracy theories /drama - and yet his wife is fighting for her country in some of the hell holes of this world. I can't imagine some of the conversations they must have when her orders disagree with her spouse Shocked

That's none of my business tho. Just seems bizarre.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:
I hope that u did not beat him up and strip him.
izzythepush wrote:
You miss the good 'ole days riding with the klan don't you?
No. That 's too much trouble n time consuming.

What is it with you, and being beaten and stripped naked? I'm quite flattered Dave, but I'm not into that sort of thing. I think there's specialist websites for lethargic gimps.

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STOP PRESS. Michele Bachmann has won the Iowa straw poll.

Stand by your bed Dave. At attention.

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@High Seas,

Thanks for this info, HS.
I for one do not think the scale of immigration we have seen here is a good thing. Many areas of English cities have been completely changed in character, not to say that some change would not have been a good thing in some cases, but too much and too far in my opinion.
I also fear that the next fifty years will see greater pressures on western Europe from mass movements of population suffering from drought and famine as well as economic downturn.

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@izzythepush,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

I hope that u did not beat him up and strip him.

izzythepush wrote:

You miss the good 'ole days riding with the klan don't you?

OmSigDAVID wrote:

No. That 's too much trouble n time consuming.

izzythepush wrote:

What is it with you, and being beaten and stripped naked?

I 'm glad that u asked that, izzy.
The point that I 'm trying to bring out
is that there is not much DIGNITY
to doing it nor to having it forced upon u in the street
(it is singularly ignominious, beyond ineffability)
and that a much happier, more honorable victim
is one who has SHOT a pervert
that attempted to inflict the disgrace upon him.
Such a victim can be proud.
( In my opinion, .44 special hollowpointed slugs shoud be used,
aimed toward the large bowel. ) In America, we believe
in double taps (i.e., 2 rounds discharged in immediate succession).

That the Englishmen TOLERATE this obloquy:
what does that tell us about English courage??????
( or preferring to grovel ?? )

izzythepush wrote:

I'm quite flattered Dave, but I'm not into that sort of thing.

U r not into self defense???
Insufficient courage??
I understand that is endemic in your country.
What woud Winston Churchill say about that?
Maybe u 'd prefer the counsel of Neville Chamberlain.
He was better at grovelling than Churchill was.

izzythepush wrote:

I think there's specialist websites for lethargic gimps.

Geeeezzzzz, even Chamberlain used decent English grammar.

David

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@McTag,

Even I own a hoodie. It's pink.

So, is this burkaphobia in action?

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

STOP PRESS. Michele Bachmann has won the Iowa straw poll.

Stand by your bed Dave. At attention.

I wonder whether she will be our first female President.

David

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@ossobuco,

Oh goodness me no. But I must presume you are joking.

Hoods allow street gang members to hide their identity. Some wear two hoods on top, and a scarf underneath. I think violent Italian football hooligans started it, and it soon caught on.

Our new proposals are for it to be an offence if when ordered by police to remove the coverings, the person(s) remain covered up.

Maybe they'll begin to disguise themselves as observant muslim women. Human ingenuity knows no bounds.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

izzythepush wrote:
I think there's specialist websites for lethargic gimps.

Geeeezzzzz, even Chamberlain used decent English grammar.

How would you construct that particular sentence? You and decent grammar are barely on nodding terms.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

spendius wrote:
STOP PRESS. Michele Bachmann has won the Iowa straw poll.

Stand by your bed Dave. At attention.
I wonder whether she will be our first female President.

Well if she does, I will start an e-petition demanding that we withdraw from NATO, and ask Vladimir Putin to consider reforming the Warsaw Pact. Cheap Russian gas, cheap Russian vodka, and a currency the Chinese aren't about to take a dump on.

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@McTag,

Of course it is joking, though I do have a pink hoodie from the S. Army. I think my niece would like it, but she's not here and I wear it once in a while in winter.
Given the pink thing, I could probably sell it for big money (sardonic).

I'm very dry in speech, McTag, except sometimes when I fulminate.

Violent italian hooligans started it? I'll grant there are berserko italian hooligans, but hooligan stuff crosses borders.

Re the process there re i. d. 'ing, I entirely agree with you.

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Further Iz & McTag's posts about the deaths in Birmingham on Thursday ....
I've just read these two articles in the Guardian.

First , from the "comment" section of the paper. The father of one of those killed & his dignified plea for calm, not reprisals:

Quote:

Tariq Jahan has been hailed as a voice of reason. Only hours after holding his dead son in his arms, the grief-stricken father has provided hope for a peaceful resolution to a most horrific tragedy. His voice, full of pain, urged his community to stay away from any reprisal attacks for the killing of his son Haroon and two fellow young Muslim men

Tariq Jahan's is the patriotic voice of a first-generation Muslim migrant:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/11/tariq-jahan-first-generation-muslim-migrant

Then this article about the community in which the deaths occurred.
These residents described their area as "the Bermuda triangle", a sort of neglected, no go zone, which has been left almost entirely to its own devices ... neglected by police & politicians.
Not one politician visited their area after the deaths in their community.
And now they wonder if, following the tragedy of last Thursday, whether they'll simply be forgotten & neglected again, after the dust settles.
Just tragic & heart-breaking, that people are expected to live like this.

Quote:

UK riots: Death on the Dudley Road
Guardian.co.uk, Saturday 13 August 2011 22.56 BST

Three young men died when a car hit them in Birmingham last Tuesday. Jamie Doward finds dismay, not anger, in Birmingham

Birmingham: Members of the public continue to pay their respects at the scene of a hit and run following civil disturbances in the Winson Green area. Photograph: Jeff J Mitchell/Getty Images

Quote:
....Local people speak fatalistically but not angrily. They are gloomy about their prospects but most are not talking about retribution or revenge. Instead, they are more interested in trying to articulate why their area, like many others in England's inner cities, is so vulnerable to looting and violence.

All of the Dudley Road's problems – racial tensions, inadequate policing, poverty – that exploded in a single horrific act of violence had been building up for years, they say. They had been warning problems were in danger of spiralling out of control but they lived in the Bermuda Triangle and no one had paid any attention.

"If we were talking about the deaths of three white ladies from Harborne [a smart Birmingham suburb] then there would be a national scandal and something would get done," Azam said. "But nothing will happen because it's us. The media and the politicians will move on in a few days and that will be the end of that."

Westminster's response to the tragedy seems to have reinforced this belief. "We lost three people the other day," one man said. "And David Cameron went to Wolverhampton, 20 minutes down the road. He didn't come here."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/13/uk-riots-death-dudley-road

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@McTag,

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