Rioting spreading through London & to other English cities.

Surprisingly insightful piece from Russell Brand

Never thought I'd see the day when you declared yourself to be a supporter of what are usually considered to be amongst the most brutal regimes on earth.

And you haven't.

This rioting did not begin as peaceful protests. The violence of the rioters is not the defensive response of otherwise civil demonstrators.

That you are attempting to equate these thugs with the reform movements in Iran in Syria is shameful, not because you actually believe there is equivalence, but because you are laboring so greatly to throw a rhetorical punch that couldn't knock the seeds off of a dandelion.

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Of course peaceful political demonstrations are far from what has been going on in the UK.

Surely you understand this Cyclo?

Of course I understand that.

And yet you make your ridculous charge.

Back to the statement I made in my last post - do YOU understand that our decades of Liberal policies have NOT led to the situations that you describe? That rioting and violence here are lower than ever? How do you square that with your predictions?

As they led to these riots in the UK and elsewhere in Europe they will lead to the same here if we do not alter the path we are travelling.

BTW - Current affairs do not prove or disprove current predictions. Do you understand that as well?
Cycloptichorn

The former New York and Los Angeles police chief is to meet David Cameron next month to discuss how to tackle violence on England's city streets.

About 1,600 people have been arrested after days of riots, arson and looting.

Mr Bratton said arrest was appropriate for the most violent, but the issue was one for society as a whole.

"You can't arrest your way out of the problem," he told US broadcaster, ABC.

"Arrest is certainly appropriate for the most violent, the incorrigible, but so much of it can be addressed in other ways and it's not just a police issue, it is in fact a societal issue.

"It's not easy, it's hard work, but it can be done and in many respects you have to argue that it must be done because you just can't continue the way you've been going."

He went on: "I think part of what the government is going to do is to take a look at what worked and what didn't work during the course of the last week.

"My assignment is to focus more on the issues of the American experience dealing with gangs and what we may be able to share with them that might help them to prevent similar activities in the future."

Over the past two decades, Mr Bratton has gained a reputation for introducing bold measures to reduce crime, particularly in LA after riots in 1992.

"Our success in Los Angeles in reducing gang violence significantly was a co-ordination of very assertive tough police tactics but also a lot of community outreach, a lot of creative, innovative programmes such as a significant use of gang interventionists."

Downing Street said Mr Bratton would not be a long-term, paid consultant and would not be formally appointed to any UK police force

Msolga, I have never doubted your confidence in the clueless things you say.

These riots are the price that must be paid for decades of Liberal policies, and they will come to America if we continue on our current path.

The current coalition British government is hardly pushing "Liberal policies". Quite the opposite. And its policies are hardly popular. It is interesting that the riots are happening now and not during what you'd see as more "liberal" times in Britain, under a Labour government.

The policies of the current British government did not give rise to the seething layer of British youth who have no pride, no ambition, and no morality. These young men and women have been raised by a thoroughly Progressive society that expects nothing of them and of which they expect everything.

Clearly, they were not fashioned by the current government's policies

But there are others here who choose to simply prefer to interpret what's occurred in Britain through the prism of their own experiences, biases or prejudices, with little real concern or understanding about what has occurred in a country which is not their own.

Why would anyone who wasn't out to cause trouble, cover their face?

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But there are others here who choose to simply prefer to interpret what's occurred in Britain through the prism of their own experiences, biases or prejudices, with little real concern or understanding about what has occurred in a country which is not their own.

You're spot on there.

Of course not, he has not drunk the Cameron "get a bigger hammer" kool-aid,

DUH, everybody always interprets new information through the prism of their own experiences, biases and prejudices......this is how the human brain works.

DUH