Rioting spreading through London & to other English cities.

@Cycloptichorn,

I am a supporter of any government that deals withactual rioting in the manner which I described.

Of course peaceful political demonstrations are far from what has been going on in the UK.

Surely you understand this Cyclo?

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@Cycloptichorn,

Always part of the problem in some of these discussions is what who thinks the words liberal or Liberal mean. I didn't understand the rest of the world's take on Liberal until I got to a2k, or of the word liberal in the US, for that matter, as it can be indicted from two sides, or maybe more than two sides. liberal is a changing set of tropes from mind to mind.

The commonality is that others take us as some kind of mental monolith.

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@BDV,

Semantics.

Call it rioting, call it wilding, call it looting, or call it thuggery. It's all the same thing and we know it when we see it.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

but it always point to a rotten core

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@Finn dAbuzz,

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

I am a supporter of any government that deals withactual rioting in the manner which I described.

Never thought I'd see the day when you declared yourself to be a supporter of what are usually considered to be amongst the most brutal regimes on earth.

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Of course peaceful political demonstrations are far from what has been going on in the UK.

Surely you understand this Cyclo?

Of course I understand that.

Back to the statement I made in my last post - do YOU understand that our decades of Liberal policies have NOT led to the situations that you describe? That rioting and violence here are lower than ever? How do you square that with your predictions?

Cycloptichorn

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@Finn dAbuzz,

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These riots are the price that must be paid for decades of Liberal policies, and they will come to America if we continue on our current path.

...er, I don't live in the UK, Finn, but I think I can confidently say you are way off the mark here.
The current coalition British government is hardly pushing "Liberal policies". Quite the opposite. And its policies are hardly popular. It is interesting that the riots are happening now and not duriung what you'd see as more "liberal" times in Britain, under a Labour government.

But I'll leave that to the British posters to explain, if they care to.

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@ossobuco,

Yes. Exactly, osso.

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@msolga,

OMG, the riots have spread to Edinburgh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG-XWBVdonQ

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@eurocelticyankee,

hah

Cycloptichorn

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@ossobuco,

I'll add to that old post that I wouldn't be surprised if Bratton's take to Cameron would be a well couched lecture.
On the other hand, he has a security firm now, so maybe the stripes have moved.
But my take on him is that he cares about both community connection and security.

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@eurocelticyankee,

Oh no!
Not Edinburgh too!
Looks extremely dangerous! Razz

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It's Media. And Media is in charge of explaining it all for you.

The result is predictable.

Media caused the financial crisis and they explained that for you as well.

With a predictabilty which I wish I could apply to tomorrow's horse races.

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@Finn dAbuzz,

This has nothing to do with Liberal Policies, it's about trying to run public services on the cheap. What Liberal Policies? They've not been in power since Lloyd George. It might help if you knew something about the political system over her.

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@spendius,

Is this your way of saying that you find no value in intellectual honesty?

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@msolga,

Let's hope Glasgow doesn't join in eh?

Infant mortality in Glasgow is 5.4 and in S.E. England 3.9.

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@reasoning logic,

What's intellectual honesty rl. It certainly isn't talking about intellectual honesty as if doing so is proof of you being intellectually honest. That's the oldest intellectually dishonest trick known to mankind and it is time you stopped employing it with me.

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@spendius,

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What's intellectual honesty rl.

This is your Chance to show everyone that you are not a psychopath Spendius! Please give us your definition intellectual honesty.

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An aside - what pearblossom is thumbing down posts he or she disagrees with? that's no reason for downing a post.
There are other reasons like personal insults being hurled, which are understandable.
If you don't like an argument, argue back or be quiet.

Only my opinion, of course.

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@ossobuco,

Please include a little detail so that we can all be on the same page!

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@spendius,

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Infant mortality in Glasgow is 5.4 and in S.E. England 3.9.

Is that correct?
If so, shocking.

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