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Rioting spreading through London & to other English cities.

 
 
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2011 05:40 pm
@Izzie,
I understand Izzie and never for a second did I think you were saying any of what is going on is okay or justified.

Someone told me something once. If two people are fighting it usually takes one person doing a 180 degree turn to change that. So, we need to change things. How? I wish I had the answers. The one answer I do have is it has to start with one person, doesn't it? One person helping another with figuring out what is the right thing to do? Because of my experiences, I definitely believe it all has to do with each of us taking responsibility for our choices and not blaming them on what someone has done, etc.

I am sure the children of the man killed in Mississippi by that 17 year old felt like lashing out or at least thought about it. But, so far, it seems they haven't. That takes self-control and I pray if that ever happened to me I'd have the self-control it would take to do the right thing.

I think we don't stop to think before we react anymore.......not meaning anyone specifically......but society as a whole like you said.

An example, I did a thread today that Tico needed a new avatar because I thought Arnold was so disrespectful wearing that t-shirt that said I Survived Maria. Now, I cloaked, and yes, I mean cloaked, it in humor but I got to thinking............I don't know wny Tico uses that avatar and maybe I would be offending him in some way. I thought who am I to tease Tico because I don't like what Arnold did? What a hypocrite, huh? So, I know we sometimes do things without thinking and then when we do think about it realize our wrong and sometimes we can fix it but sometimes we can't. Somehow we have to all learn that violence isn't the answer. Getting mad and burning, looting, etc., only adds fuel to the fire.

I have no doubt the people, at least I hope those people, once they calm down will look back on what they did and realize how they did not help the problem. Unfortunately, it seems the greatest lessons we learn in life are the ones that hurt the most.

I took no offense at what you said, Izzie. You have always been a dear!
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hingehead
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2011 05:45 pm
'Irony 101' or 'how to troll a country'

UK riots: Iran calls on UN to intervene over 'violent suppression'
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad condemns British government for its 'brutal beating' of 'the opposition'

Full story
dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2011 05:49 pm
@hingehead,
Reminds me of Idi Amin's "Bananas for Britain" campaign.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4132547.stm


This sort of thing is so delicious for brutal dictatorships, oligarchies and theocracies.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2011 05:51 pm
@hingehead,
hingehead wrote:

'Irony 101' or 'how to troll a country'

UK riots: Iran calls on UN to intervene over 'violent suppression'
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad condemns British government for its 'brutal beating' of 'the opposition'

Full story
Kinda reminds me of the response from China and Japan when after years of delivering lectures on corporate transparency we had Enron, or when we for years gave lectures to the world on how to grow economies using the free market and loose government oversight we had the collapse of WallStreet. Iran has a good message here of "**** you very much for all of your lectures over the years, hypocrite".
Izzie
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2011 05:53 pm
@dlowan,
The latest blurbs over here are "Gadaffi recongises the rioters as the UK's new goverment"

<sigh>

to zzzzzzzzzzz - nite y'all!
eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2011 05:53 pm
I watched a programme this evening called "Kidnapped: A Georgian Adventure". It was the story of young James Annesley. In 1728, 12-year-old James Annesley was snatched from the streets of Dublin and sold into slavery in America - the victim of a wicked uncle hell-bent on stealing his massive inheritance. The programme traced James's astonishing journey from the top table of 18th century society to its murky depths. The story, which helped inspire Robert Louis Stevenson's book Kidnapped, reveals some disturbing home truths that cast a shadow over the century of the Enlightenment.
What amazed me the most was the extent of the practice of kidnapping young children, usually poor kids, street kids across Britain.
I cant help but wonder if it were still possible like it was in Georgian times, would all these rioters be deported into indentured servitude or slavery
This is how the well to do dealt with the young street kids then. The very word kidnap comes from this practice and it was a convenient way of dealing with the poor and disenfranchised classes. I wonder.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0135m59
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Irishk
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2011 05:57 pm
@hingehead,
Ahmadinejad = blithering idiot in Farci.
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roger
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2011 05:59 pm
I know what! Establish a cordon, round them up, put them on ships, and transport them. To AUSTRALIA!

Or China, or Iran.
dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2011 06:01 pm
@Izzie,
Izzie wrote:

The latest blurbs over here are "Gadaffi recongises the rioters as the UK's new goverment"

<sigh>

to zzzzzzzzzzz - nite y'all!



You don't find it funny?
eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2011 06:02 pm
@roger,
No No, people are queuing up to get into Australia these days, that's not severe enough.
SIBERIA, I say that will teach them moral values.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2011 06:11 pm
I do not find it odd that some of you can find humor in this!
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2011 06:14 pm
@hawkeye10,
I voted you up! You can tell how many biased view points are out there by your vote downs when you are only sharing a point of view!
Irishk
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2011 06:25 pm
@eurocelticyankee,
Siberia is too cold. I'll bet there are some kids in N. Korea that wouldn't mind trading places, though.
eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2011 06:27 pm
@Irishk,
Too true and half of Africa as well, hell, half the world.
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eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2011 06:29 pm
@reasoning logic,
These are the consequences of "crying wolf" or in his case "spewing bullshit".
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2011 06:32 pm
@eurocelticyankee,
Not trying to be mean but could you share this empirical evidence that you claim exists?
I am not talking about your opinion but your empirical evidence to your claim!
I do not agree with him on all issues but I do think that he had a valid opinion!
eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2011 06:37 pm
@reasoning logic,
The evidence is all around you.

You just have know where to look.

Like maybe his posts? eh?

Quote:
These are the consequences of "crying wolf" or in his case "spewing bullshit".


Like I said consequences.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2011 06:38 pm
@eurocelticyankee,
Try to break his post down and share the fallacies with us all!
hingehead
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2011 06:41 pm
New London 2012 Olympic logo http://t.co/Z5kNzX6

Too soon?
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eurocelticyankee
 
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Reply Wed 10 Aug, 2011 06:53 pm
@reasoning logic,

I didn't read his post, can you not understand the "cried wolf" reference?
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