The best way to do something about mass murders is to take the tools away that make it possible.
The second amendment cannot grant a right to something that did not exist when it was written.
Muzzle loaders were the state of the art when the second amendment was written.
assault weapons were not covered by the second amendment.
You don’t have to fire a full 900 rounds to know its capable of firing 900 rounds a minute. If you can fire 15 rounds in a second that is 900 rounds in a minute.
Simply without the gun most murders would not take place. How do we know this? All we need to do is look at the civilized world where gun ownership is restricted. In the civilized part of the world a child has is 36 times more likely to live to his nineteenth birthday than a child living in America.
Controlling guns does not violate anyone’s civil liberties
as the only legal guns are muzzle loaders.
Beating confessions out of suspects would not save any lives as many people would confess just to stop the beating and in the meantime the real killer is out on the street still killing people while the Police are patting themselves on the back that they solved the crime.
Do you believe you were born with the right to an AR-15? You are about to find out that is not the case.
Free speech is limited already. There was both spoken and written free speech when the constitution was written.
The internet is only a new method of delivering it.
America is only 242 years old the founding fathers were free to encode in law what they choose there were bound by no previous laws but were free to adopt what they wanted.
The right to bear arms is specific to that time period.
there is no amendment that gives you a right to a certain design handle.
If that is the case and they are not capable of firing 900 rounds a minute, then it would be false advertising on the company’s part and the manufacturer would have to take the guns back.
What we know for sure is the Las Vegas shooter fired 1,000 rounds in ten minutes. That was 100 rounds a minute while changing guns and loading them.
The best way to do something about mass murders is to take the tools away that make it possible.
The second amendment cannot grant a right to something that did not exist when it was written. Muzzle loaders were the state of the art when the second amendment was written.
The conservatives always want the constitution to be enforced to the letter of the law and assault weapons were not covered by the second amendment.
We spend ten times more than any other country on earth on the military.
The military would always purchase the most lethal weapons available on earth. That is why the military just had to have its version of the AR-15.
One thing for sure the AR-15 will not be a good choice for a sniper to shoot somebody from a half mile away.
However, it is great for close up mass murder like in a high school. I think you have the wrong post we both know the AR-15 has thousands of notches on its stock.
The AR-15s are not known for accuracy they depend on spraying a number of bullets.
Hollywood has nothing to do with the history of the AR-15.
The fact that the shooter was able to kill 58 people and shoot another 422 in just ten minutes has never even been approached by any professional soldier in any war in history of course he had an advantage he had the high ground.
When a car says it will run 300mph it is not theoretically the cars is tested to make sure it does. The company that designed the AR-15 test their guns to see that it lives up to the design limits. You don’t have to fire a full 900 rounds to know its capable of firing 900 rounds a minute. If you can fire 15 rounds in a second that is 900 rounds in a minute
The statistics from other countries show that it is gun ownership that is the problem not the people.
Do think other countries don’t have the same type of people?
It is the tool they have taken away that gives their children 36 times more likely to live to adulthood.
People who kill with guns are basically cowards take the gun away and they will not physically take someone on with a knife. Guns literally make the coward.
One thing for sure the AR-15 was made long after the second amendment.
So, you believe that the constitution is flexible when it comes to guns. They should be able to stretch it a mile to make assault weapons legal.
If we spend 10 times more than any other country on our military, we would buy the best weapons.
That was your point that the military had weapons that were inferior to the AR-15.
So, your telling me the military got together and said let’s give our guys inferior weapons, so they will lose wars. Do you think that makes sense?
The AR-15 is designed to fight a war close up to assault an enemy position or commit mass murder. A mass murderer does not want to shoot his victims from a ½ mile away he wants to be close to them, so he can enjoy watching them die.
All these mass murderers can’t be wrong they know the AR-15s were made for mass murder.
What I know about the AR-15s comes from the mass murders they were used commit and the information from the various manufacturers.
Tell me do you know of any soldier that was able to kill 58 people and wound 422 in 10 minutes? There is a reason this doesn’t happen on the battlefield in war the other army is shooting back.
Las Vegas shooter showed us how fast the AR-15 semi-automatic could become fully automatic. The design capability to fire 900 rounds a minute is still there.
I actually doubt the military purchased the best weapon available at the time.
You don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about.
In retrospect probably not, but do you actually have any proof that the Defense Department knowingly armed troops with an inferior weapon?
Do you? I was in AIT when the M16 was introduced. I remember my utter amazement that a good hard-hitting and accurate rifle like the M14 was being replaced by something which seemed more like a toy. We were fed that crap about the "tumbling bullet" to make us feel better about about the weapon's lethality.
Currently on ID we have a killer casing two women in a car shooting at them. After they crash their car the killer gets out to finish them off. He finished one of the women off but ran out of bullets and the other one lived. If the killer had ammunition, he would have killed her but once he was out, he didn’t bother to kill her.
The statistics from other countries show that it is gun ownership that is the problem not the people.
One thing for sure the AR-15 was made long after the second amendment.
So, you believe that the constitution is flexible when it comes to guns. They should be able to stretch it a mile to make assault weapons legal.
All these mass murderers can’t be wrong they know the AR-15s were made for mass murder.
Mass murders are not taking their time to shoot at specific targets.
Las Vegas shooter showed us how fast the AR-15 semi-automatic could become fully automatic. The design capability to fire 900 rounds a minute is still there.
We were fed that crap about the "tumbling bullet" to make us feel better about about the weapon's lethality.
The killer probably didn’t have a knife because he knew he would not use it.
When a child in America is 36 times more likely to be killed by gun violence than in other countries that is a statistic is one that towers over all others.
The rule of law applies to the AR-15 and nothing more. As long as you have access to some type of gun the promise of the second amendment is fulfilled. The second amendment gives you a right to own a gun, but it does not specify what type, nor does it limit certain guns from being banned.
A pistol grip is not a gun just an accessory and the second amendment didn’t say you had a right to bare accessories.
The second amendment has been far more broadly interpreted that the founding fathers could have ever imagined.
I do not know of an instance where a policeman has been a mass murder though some have been serial killers.
Most policemen are not armed with AR-15.
If you are shooting into a crowd speed is what matters the more bullets into a crowd the more deaths
just look at Las Vegas. Do you believe you could beat 480 people shot in ten minutes by carefully aiming each shot?
Just because bump stocks are now outlawed does not mean someone next week can’t invent something that works far better.
If it is the people that are the problem, why are so few killed with knives and other sharp objects?
That one statistic may provide the leverage needed to change the gun culture in America.
“A right to bare arms” is just that. You are doing exactly what they accuse activist judges of doing you are reading in things that are not in the second amendment.
If the second amendment said that it granted you a right to any future development of weapons you might have a case, but it doesn’t, and you don’t.
The pistol grip is an accessory and in no way is it required.
You are reading things into the second amendment that aren’t there.
It could be that the policemen are not allowed to take the AR-15s home with them and since policemen can shoot people at work that they can take their frustration out there. It also possible policemen that the background check and psychological test weed out the mass murders.
If you are trying to kill one specific person aiming might be necessary but if it doesn’t matter the more bullets into the center of the crowd is what works according to the experts, the mass murderers.
It is the AR-15 that are the problem, not the bump stocks.
Then it follows that if we eliminate guns our children would have a better chance to make it to adulthood as most killers prefer a gun.
That is not a fake statistic
the gun slaughter that goes on in the United States is not tolerated in the civilized world.
If you gave parents a choice between civil liberties and their child’s life the overwhelming majority would choose their child life.
The statistic is as good as gold.
There is no way that people that lived 200 years ago could grant you a right to military grade assault weapons. They could only grant you a right to what existed when the second amendment was written. You still believe you get a Cadillac Escalade for the price of a Chev Cruise.
Talking about activist judges you are contending the second amendment says “forbids any restrictions” there is no such statement in the second amendment.
When you start seeing thins that aren’t there you are an activist judge.
Trump would like to have power to censor the television network he even recently threatened to sue Saturday Night Live because he is demanding there should be equal time given to disparaging Democrats.
We have a government for a reason and one of those reasons is protect the population from dangerous and deadly weapons. That is a real civil liberty.
We have 40,000 reasons a year to ban pistol grips.
The right to bare arms does not grant you the right to no restrictions
and the court decision support the restriction on dangerous and deadly weapons.
When the police are confronting multi suspects armed to the teeth or those known to have dangerous and deadly weapons they need to be as well armed as the suspects. These suspects have often bragged that they will not be taken alive. They must be able to grant their wish.
If killing 58 people and shooting 422 is a subpar performance than another mass murderer who took the time to aim should have easily broke the record, but it didn’t happen for a reason.
Taking time to aim would take precious time a mass murderer does not have. A crowd will not stand still and wait for you to take aim.
Do you really believe that mass murders are not a problem? When your children are killed you will change your mind.
The facts are clear the rest of the civilized world murder is far lower than in America
there is no other reason except that America has many times the guns that other countries have. Guns make murder easy there is no other rational explanation.
America’s murder rate is 1,910% times higher Japan and America murder rate is 446% of that of the United Kingdom.
It is very simple to verify that statistic and that involving murder rates in other countries.
You and the NRA believe that the truth is not the truth, but it is.
What we know for sure is that mass murder is found all over the United States as well as murders committed with guns.
The statistic is verifiable and true and done by one of the top Universities in the country.
This country is over 200 years old and those that lived when founded could not have ever imagined the future where guns fired 900 rounds a minute and mass murder is just entertainment. Had founding fathers had any idea how the future would turn out the second amendment would have never been written.
“Shall not be infringed” has absolutely nothing to do with technology 200 years in the future. That applies to you baring a 1776 gun. It has nothing to do with future technology.
The second amendments exist just not all of the things you read into that are there.
When you start reading things into the second amendment you are acting like an activist judge.
Court rulings have already ruled that dangerous and deadly weapons can be banned.
Pistol grips are no more than an accessory and there is no amendment that says accessories can’t be banned.
The restrictions that has been upheld in court is “dangerous and deadly.” There is no such wording in court decision as “unusually.” You are reading things.
Police kill several people in a shootout is not considered mass murder it is just another day at work.
When you need to kill several people very quickly that is what the assault weapons are designed for.
In most situations the police don’t need assault weapons but when they come up against criminals armed with assault weapons it puts them on an equal footing.
By the time you took to aim the crowd would have dispersed or someone would take your gun away. Your only safety is a shower of bullets.
Do you have trouble holding onto a rifle without a pistol grip? Most people don’t have any problem holding onto a gun without a pistol grip.
The facts are clear the rest of the civilized world murder is far lower than in America there is no other reason except that America has many times the guns that other countries have.
Guns make murder easy there is no other rational explanation. America’s murder rate is 1,910% times higher Japan and America murder rate is 446% of that of the United Kingdom.
What we know for sure is that mass murder is found all over the United States as well as murders committed with guns.
think that most parents would choose the life of their child over having a gun in the house.
In fact, most parents have already made that choice only one third of American households currently own guns and as each gun nut dies America is changing one funeral at a time.
The statistic is verifiable and true and done by one of the top Universities in the country.
This country is over 200 years old and those that lived when founded could not have ever imagined the future where guns fired 900 rounds a minute and mass murder is just entertainment.
“Shall not be infringed” has absolutely nothing to do with technology 200 years in the future. That applies to you baring a 1776 gun. It has nothing to do with future technology.
The second amendments exist just not all of the things you read into that are there. When you start reading things into the second amendment you are acting like an activist judge. Court rulings have already ruled that dangerous and deadly weapons can be banned.
Police kill several people in a shootout is not considered mass murder it is just another day at work.
When you need to kill several people very quickly that is what the assault weapons are designed for.
In most situations the police don’t need assault weapons but when they come up against criminals armed with assault weapons it puts them on an equal footing.
