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The Communist Origin of the Modern Conservative Movement VI

 
 
Zardoz
 
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Reply Sat 7 Mar, 2026 09:38 am
@izzythepush,
If you read history, you know that the president had wanted to enter the war long before pearl harbor but there was a faction that wanted to prevent it. There is view that the president was aware of the Pearl Habor attack and let it happen to bring America into the war. There was simply no way to move the whole Japanese fleet across the ocean without being noticed.

Nazi Germany declared war on the United States after Peral Habor.

In Vietnam both the Chinese and the Russians supplied state of the art weapons to the Nort Vietnamese. In last 60 years, the state-of-the-art weapons have advanced considerably. Since Iran was supplying weapons to Russia, we can expect Russia to return favor in kind.

Trump was angry not because it was a stupid question but because it scares the hell out of him and he just filled his diaper. You might remember Trump is a coward's coward.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 7 Mar, 2026 11:23 am
@Zardoz,
What Roosevelt wanted is academic.

America entered the war because of Pearl Harbor.

And America did very well out of it financially, Britain didn't finish paying off Lend lease until Tony Blair was prime minister.

One of the reasons for the infamous London smogs post war was the dirty coal burned as all the decent stuff went to pay off the Americans.

People died in the smogs.

If America really wanted to help out its allies we wouldn't have fought, and won, the Battle of Britain all on our own.

And anyway, Trump is no Roosevelt, he's a fascist only interested in himself.

He's already reducing the sanctions on Russian oil, helping Putin out.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 7 Mar, 2026 11:28 am
@izzythepush,
I'm sure all the other post war presidents would have honoured their NATO commitments had the need arisen, but Trump is different.

America can no longer be relied on.

Btw, the only country to have triggered NATO's mutual defence clause is the US after 9/11.
Zardoz
 
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Reply Sun 8 Mar, 2026 08:02 am
@izzythepush,
One of the principals that the United States was founded on was to stay out of foreign wars. Europe had been at war almost perpetually throughout history. They saw no reason to involve the United States in foreign wars it was just a lose, lose situation. The world got smaller with the invention of the airplane and steam ships.

Roosevelt was not a king; we live in a democracy. There was a strong communist movement that was antiwar alongside several strong religious groups. In a democracy you need to change public opinion first.

My uncle died in the Battle of The Bulge he did not die in the Battle of Japan. My dad served in the European theater, and he didn't fight Japan. The United States had no reason to enter the war in Europe other than to save what was left of Europe. Hitler declaration of war was meaningless as it would been years before he could any do any real damage to the US. Hitler only declared war against the US because that is what allies do. Hitler had absolutely no viable war plan for the US we had to go over there.

America did not pay off their war debt until after Reagan in fact they still owe it.

The thing is once you buy something you have to expect to pay for it, a lesson young people learn the hard way.

Thirteen thousand people die every year over here because of pollution generated by burning coal.

The last time I saw your homeland was being bombed and looked like Iraq, if that is what winning looks like I don't want to win.

I would have to agree with you about Trump he has to be a relative of Hitler.

The idiot formerly known as Trump knows high gas prices will make him look like Custer at Little Big Horn in the next election.
Zardoz
 
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Reply Sun 8 Mar, 2026 08:10 am
@izzythepush,
Greenland was getting close to trigging the mutual defense clause. I suspect Trump will trigger the defense clause for some planed future seizure for drug running.

The only Trump can be relied upon is to bite like the snake he is.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 8 Mar, 2026 12:45 pm
@Zardoz,
We're more democratic than you, with strict limits on political advertising it's much harder for rich oligarchs to buy elections.

That's why we have free health care and you have carcinogenic food additives.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 8 Mar, 2026 12:51 pm
@Zardoz,
If Henry Ford hadn't given all of Ford's German profits to Adolf Hitler there might not have been a war in the first place.

And America used WW2 to ensure dominance in Western Europe post war.

When the Yanks came over here in 1942 we assumed they'd be going back when the war was over.

They're still here carrying out bombing raids on Tehran.
Zardoz
 
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Reply Mon 9 Mar, 2026 07:34 am
@izzythepush,
To be sure the supreme courts decision that ruled that money was free speech. If money in politics is free speech, then it cannot be limited. The argument that the money of the rich is free speech ad can never be limited for rich is an argument for unending corruption and the ordinary man will have very little to say.

What can I say, Hillary Clinton started pushing national care in the 90s when her husband was president. At the time even General Motors was supporting it. They realized the most expensive cost in a car was health insurance. Obama got close but the conservatives blocked it and we got less. I am retired and health insurance and Medicare cost me close to $1,000 a month. It has been worth it as my wife's medical expenses easily exceeded a million dollars in the last five years.

The conservatives keep saying free market, free market. The example I use is that your family is swimming at the beach and your son is drowning. You go to the lifeguard and say my son is drowning. He says this is a free market beach. How much will you pay? You reply any price just save him. There is no real free market when you have no choice.
Zardoz
 
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Reply Mon 9 Mar, 2026 07:44 am
@izzythepush,
Henery Ford hated Jews worse than the leader of KKK.

War always changes the political make up of countries

There is more than one way to take control of a country.

The bombing won't stop until Little Hitler sends boots on the ground. Little Hitler thought he could bomb Iran into submission that was like they thought that they would throw roses at their feet when they invaded Iraq instead of bombs. Little Hitler could imagine that the rioters would just take over but that was just his imagination.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 9 Mar, 2026 07:57 am
@Zardoz,
In other words the rich and powerful made sure their demands were catered to instead of the general population.

Hardly democratic.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Mon 9 Mar, 2026 08:07 am
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Americans aren’t facing a democratic collapse. We’re living in its aftermath
Eric Reinhart

The US was an oligarchy well before Trump’s first term. Recognizing this reality is essential to building a true democracy

Since Donald Trump returned to the White House, American political life has taken on a familiar rhythm. Each week brings another court ruling framed as a breaking point, another election cast as the last real one, another executive order described as the moment it all finally tips over the edge, another person murdered by a government that’s finally gone too far. Democratic party fundraising emails promise to “save the Republic”. Commentators warn that the guardrails are giving way. Anxious citizens refresh their screens, waiting for the collapse of American democracy.

This state of permanent panic rests on what Sigmund Freud called an illusion: a belief embraced not because it reflects reality, but because it satisfies a psychological need. The illusion in this case is that the United States still has a democracy to lose. The more unsettling truth is that Americans are not living under threat of future democratic breakdown; we are living inside the aftermath of one that has already occurred.

For tens of millions of people, democratic life has been absent for decades as they endure precarious housing, inaccessible healthcare, unchecked policing powers, debt servitude, vanishing public goods, and near-total exclusion from meaningful formal political power. For others – the wealthy, the politically connected, the donors and oligarchs – the same system produces not insecurity, but insulation, along with a constant need to rationalize the deprivation of others upon which their power is predicated and to disavow any responsibility for it.

These are not signs of a democracy under threat. They are symptoms of one that eroded – if it ever existed – long ago. Why, then, does American political discourse remain fixated on a catastrophe that always seems imminent but never quite arrives?

In his essay on the “fear of breakdown”, the psychoanalyst DW Winnicott described patients who become consumed by the dread of an impending disaster, only for analysis to reveal that what they fear lies not in the future at all. It is instead the displaced anxiety of a breakdown already suffered but never experienced – an early failure of the environment to hold the person together in the face of abandonment so overwhelming it was defensively short-circuited, repressed rather than lived. What returns later is the echo of that unlived event in the guise of a future threat.

Winnicott developed this concept through the treatment of individual patients, but his insights are also pertinent to group dynamics and political collectives. Nations too generate defenses against reality: denial, idealization, displacement, projection, regression, collective forgetting. America’s fixation on democracy’s perpetual near-death is one such defense; it’s also a political strategy. It allows liberal politicians, institutions, media and elite universities and professional groups who have benefited from longstanding inequalities to avoid confronting a more uncomfortable truth: the decline of democracy did not begin with Donald Trump but unfolded gradually across decades, including under the stewardship of the Democratic party leaders who now brand themselves as democracy’s last line of defense.

To acknowledge this is not to downplay the authoritarian project advancing under Trump. It is instead to try to understand it clearly enough to oppose it effectively, rather than remain caught in the loops that immobilize the country’s elite political class that is refusing to confront its own complicity.

Their story is mired in nostalgia, insisting that the US had a functional democratic order that is now suddenly slipping away under the threat posed by a singular, unprecedented figure – an aberration in American history rather than its reflection or culmination. The solution, in this telling, is preservation: defend institutions, restore norms, shore up checks and balances.

But to what democracy, exactly, are we trying to return? One built on settler colonialism, slavery, and the genocidal dispossession of Indigenous nations that continued – as explicit policy – well into the 20th century? One that excluded women until 1920, Black citizens until the 1960s, and trans people – with many liberal politicians and pundits’ backing – still today? The government that expanded formal rights only to hollow them out through mass incarceration, voter suppression, racialized wealth extraction, and – enabled by the supreme court – corporate capture of public institutions and elections? The democracy that bailed out bank and auto executives while millions of working-class people lost their homes, jobs and retirements due to corporate crime, sending suicide, addiction and despair to historic levels? The political system that has – under Barack Obama, Joe Biden and Trump alike – presided over the fastest growth in economic inequality and anti-democratic concentration of power in history while doubling down on a domestic police state and imperial violence?

Well before Trump’s first term, evidence clearly indicated that the United States was already an oligarchy. Decades of bipartisan deregulation, privatization, union-busting, and welfare retrenchment dismantled the public infrastructures that enable people to experience themselves as participants in collective life and progressively transferred the democratic power of the people over to corporations, unelected judges, and billionaires.

If democracy is not simply a constitutional arrangement but a lived experience of shared fate, ethical commitments, and civic presence, then millions of Americans have very clearly not lived in one for decades. And if your neighbors are not living in democracy, then neither are you.

As long as we imagine democratic collapse as something still to be prevented, we will remain politically paralyzed, clinging to norms, leaders and procedures whose authority has evaporated. We will fight to restore a pre-Trump order that provided the fertile ground out of which far-right politics continues to grow.

ear of breakdown binds us to a past we cannot restore – because it never existed – and prevents us from building the future we need. Winnicott observed that this fear diminishes only when the truth it conceals is finally truly experienced rather than repressed. When a patient confronts reality, a new direction becomes possible.

Genuine democracy is built and sustained by the everyday public infrastructures that allow people to rely on one another: thriving public housing, childcare, schools and libraries, universal healthcare, unions, public media, real community safety, and public health as direct social care. Where these institutions wither, democratic imagination withers – and fascist fantasies thrive. Where they are valued and invested, democracy becomes a lived practice rather than an anxious memory.

Ambitious policies such as universal childcare, Medicare for All, guaranteed housing, debt relief, green investment, and a national corps of community care workers, then, are not merely policy proposals. They are engines of democratic subjectivity – ways for people to feel part of something larger and to encounter one another outside the cutthroat marketplace and the politics of fear.

These projects cannot magically heal a nation that has never been whole. But they can create the conditions in which we might stop mourning an illusion and instead devote ourselves to the work of finally making democratic life a tangible reality.

What’s giving me hope now
Even as Democratic party leaders retreat into caution, empty rhetoric and procedural theater amid the rise of fascism in the United States, many ordinary Americans have stopped waiting for them. Across the country, including in my Chicago neighborhood, people have begun organizing among themselves to protect our immigrant neighbors and friends from state violence enacted by ICE, with measures including rapid-response phone trees, volunteers monitoring ICE and vulnerable neighborhood areas, mutual aid funds for detained neighbors, and community groups sharing legal resources and safe shelter.

These efforts are emerging not because the Democratic party has suddenly discovered courage and principle, but precisely because it has not. People are stepping in where their political representatives have cowered, choosing to defend their neighbors directly rather than waiting for permission from institutions that have proven unwilling to act. These acts are small, improvised and often invisible outside the communities within which they occur, but they reveal something essential: democracy does not begin with politicians and institutions that promise to save us. It begins when people decide they will not abandon one another. Following that instinct – to build the care and protection we need ourselves rather than defer to a thoroughly corrupted two-party system – is essential for broader democratic renewal. If that spreads, if Americans insist that good government grows from the bottom up rather than the top down and refuse to let grassroots movements be co-opted for politicians’ careers that put party loyalties over care for people in need, then the possibility of a real democracy may yet live.


https://www.theguardian.com/global/commentisfree/2026/mar/08/trump-democracy-oligarchy-policy
Zardoz
 
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Reply Tue 10 Mar, 2026 08:09 am
@izzythepush,
The article makes some good points, but the major wealth shift occurred during Reagan's term where social security taxes were raised 5 times and the limit you had to pay was raised so the working man could never pay the limit. The income taxes on the rich were cut by 75%. This provided the fuel for an unending political fire. The money was ploughed back into the political system to buy even more tax cuts during the baby Bush's term in office and followed by little Hitlers two terms in office he cut the taxes further. The line from the song is "money changes everything" but "money ruins everything."
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Zardoz
 
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Reply Tue 10 Mar, 2026 08:13 am
@izzythepush,
It has long been accepted that US military was a collection agency for big business. It serves the rich.
Zardoz
 
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Reply Wed 11 Mar, 2026 07:53 am
@Zardoz,
Many people believe that our military always has a noble objective in defending the homeland but that is not true anything run by men is subject to corruption. The Vietnam War was one of the worst examples. Vietnam was a poor country that the French were robbing blind. The people were watching their children starve to death as the food was shipped back to France. Vietnam's leaders approached the United States for help. They were turned down and later allied themselves with the communists.

As a way to forces the United States into the war the Domino Theory was coined, "if Vietnam went communist the world would fall to communism. Vietnam" it was equivalent of Custer's last stand. This made this fight super important in the minds of military leaders. In order raise and army, a draft was required and every American boy 18 and older had to register. Vietnam costs us a good portion of a generation and billions of dollars.

When Vietnam fell the rest dominos did not fall the military leaders said "never mind" but they never acknowledge that they were wrong.
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Zardoz
 
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Reply Wed 11 Mar, 2026 08:00 am
There is already talk that a draft will be needed to finish fighting the war in Iran. No war has been won by simply bombing. It will require ground troops to actually take over the country. Word on internet is if a draft is required that Baron Trump be the first to drafted and give him a gun and let him lead the` charge into Iran.
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Zardoz
 
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Reply Thu 12 Mar, 2026 08:17 am
History is replete with leaders that surround themselves with yes men. They don't want to hear from anyone that has an opposing point of view. Trump wanted to believe that after he bombed Iran the protesters would rise up and take over Iran and the people surrounding Trump told him what he wanted to hear. To start with the protesters are only a small fraction of the population, they are armed with rocks and bottles while the Iran military has large supplies of modern and deadly weapons. The protests were already put down before Trump started bombing.

This is history repeating itself, they actually believed that the population of Iraq would throw roses at our feet because we were removing an unpopular leader but instead bombs were thrown at our feet. For little Hitler wants to believe that the people of Iran would rise up just because Trump showed up was foolish. The people of Iran will quickly learn that rocks will not protect you from AK-47s.
Zardoz
 
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Reply Thu 12 Mar, 2026 08:35 am
If Trump tries to start drafting our young men to fight in war, he started to distract the American people from his involvement with Epstein. The woman that filed the complaint said that Trump and Epstein had called for a babysitter. She was providing babysitting service when she was 14. Epstein and Trump used that scam to lure her in. While the Attorney General says it was a wild accusation made before an election the local newspaper was able to verify many details of the story showing it was not made-up story. How many more people will Trump have to kill before he confesses he is a child molester. This woman is under a high risk for suicide for revealing the world's most famous child molester
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 12 Mar, 2026 09:33 am
@Zardoz,
Quote:
'Fingers on the trigger': Deadly warnings for Iranians being urged to take action

When US President Donald Trump began strikes on Iran, killing Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei in the process, he told Iranians to "take over your government".

"It will be yours to take," Trump said. "This will be probably your only chance for generations."

But as the war between the US and Israel and Iran has deepened over the past two weeks, Iranians have received sharply different messages about what may happen if they do take action.

Encouragement from figures outside Iran has come as reports have emerged of an increased security and police presence in cities across the country, with officials of the Islamic Republic warning against any possible gatherings or protests.

'We will come after you'

Earlier this week, Iran's Police Chief, Brigadier General Ahmadreza Radan, warned that his forces would treat anyone who takes to the streets "at the enemy's request" as an "enemy".

"All our forces have their fingers on the trigger and are ready to defend the revolution and support their people and their country," Radan added.

Separately, a presenter on Iran's state television Channel Three addressed opponents of the Islamic Republic and those who might protest against the government.

"When the dust of this sedition settles, we will come after you," the presenter said.

"Confiscating your property will be the least of it. We will make you and your families pay, whether you are inside the country or abroad."

And on 8 March, Iran's Prosecutor General Office issued a statement warning Iranians living abroad that if they cooperate with what it described as "hostile enemies", they could face severe punishment.

Citing Iran's law on the "intensification of punishment for espionage and cooperation with Israel and hostile countries", the statement stressed that any "operational activity, intelligence cooperation or espionage" for such countries could result not only in the confiscation of property but also the death penalty.

These threats are a stark reminder of the threats faced by Iranians if they do protest against the government.

During weeks of anti-government protests in December and January, at least 7,000 protesters were killed in an unprecedented crackdown by security forces, human rights groups say.

Meanwhile, figures outside Iran have tried to encourage Iranians to take action against their government, at a precarious moment for the clerical establishment.

On Tuesday, Reza Pahlavi, the exiled son of Iran's last shah, urged people in Iran to obtain essential supplies as soon as possible and wait for what he called his "final call".

In a video message, he said: "For your own safety, leave the streets and remain in your homes. Continue strikes and do not go to work. To show your unity, keep up the night-time chants [against the authorities] with strength."

Pahlavi also addressed members of Iran's military and security forces, saying: "This is the final opportunity to separate yourselves from the forces of repression and join the people."

His call came as the security atmosphere inside Iran has intensified. As an internet blackout has continued, checkpoints have been set up in many neighbourhoods and streets.

On Wednesday, Iran's semi-official Fars News Agency, which is close to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), alleged that Israeli drones had targeted several checkpoints in Tehran. The agency said a number of armed personnel were killed in the attacks and, quoting what it described as unofficial sources, said "around 10" people had died.

Fars said the strikes targeted checkpoints in several districts and cited an "informed source" who claimed the operation was intended to weaken the security presence in Tehran and create conditions for unrest or anti-government protests. The report also alleged the operation involved "monarchists", referring to supporters of Pahlavi.

As the military strikes continue, concerns about civilian casualties and rising tensions in the Middle East have grown. Many observers have warned about the broader consequences of the war for civilian lives, regional security and global energy markets.

Since hostilities began, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has also addressed the people of Iran, saying Israel would "create conditions that will allow you to take your destiny into your own hands".

Netanyahu this week also added: "This is a unique opportunity for you to overthrow the regime of the ayatollahs and gain your freedom."

The competing messages highlight the intense pressure surrounding Iran as the conflict deepens.

Authorities inside the country are warning against any dissent, while voices abroad are encouraging Iranians to see the moment as an opportunity for change.

As the war continues and tensions rise, millions of people inside the country are watching events unfold while weighing the risks of what may come next.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y5rldz897o
Zardoz
 
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Reply Fri 13 Mar, 2026 08:19 am
@izzythepush,
People that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Trump has never been accused of learning from history or anything else for that matter. This is Iraq repeating itself. Remember operation "shock and awe" after all bombs and missiles that hit Iraq all we had was a mess that took years before we had the sense to get out of Iraq.

Little Hitler and the war criminal think they have scored a great victory, but this is not the end of the war it is only the beginning of a long bloody war that will claim of 100s of thousands and continue long after Trump is dead and buried.
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Zardoz
 
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Reply Sat 14 Mar, 2026 08:31 am
Little Hittler is now moving marines into the war theater. How soon do you think they will be sent into Iran? It will be a bloody war even the babies have AK-47 over there. Trump believes people all over the world love him and after all who does not love a thief, a liar, a conman, and a molester of women. Garbage in garbage out. Trump actually believed that the people of Iran would rise up and revolt to put him in charge.
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