You don’t live in the real world, do you? You don’t even have a clue.
Here is a simple math problem when you retire the average pension is $15,000
but the insurance but a greed-based health insurance
which has a very high deductible and only pays 80% costs $21,000 a year. Do the math and explain how you pay for a $21,000 health insurance policy with your $15,000 pension. Better yet explain how you keep from being homeless.
Very few of the retirees in AFSCME could afford health insurance until Obamacare came along.
Obamacare premiums were based on income.
Administrative employees are slightly better off because their pension is based on their income which tends to be higher.
The Police and Fire Departments worked out a deal in the 80s to create a fund that helped pay for retiree’s health insurance. Two percent of the salaries of all Police and Firemen go into the fund to help pay for retiree health insurance.
The rapidly rising cost of health insurance will out pace those funds.
I had negotiated a similar deal but before it could go into effect a Republican took office and canceled the contract. As President I sued the city, but it is not possible to beat the city in local courts the decision was supposed to be appealed to WV Supreme Court, but the state council lacked the funds.
When I started to work for the city a good low deductible health insurance policy ($100) that paid a 100% cost $60 a month or $720 a year a far inferior policy is now costs over $21,000 meaning it has went up nearly 30 times. If it continues at that same rate health insurance will cost over $630,000 in another 40 years. If you passed any math classes that should scare the hell out of you. The only plan the Republicans have to offer is a $630,000 or more health insurance policy.
As a union president I lived and breathed health insurance for years.
Health insurance has increased nearly 30 times in the last 40 years and if you count the high deductibles and only paying 80% the actual increase of an actual health insurance policy that paid the claim it would be more like 40 times.
The city of Huntington was self-insured meaning the $21,000 a year cost was the actual cost of medical care plus a 10% cost for Blue Cross to process the claims.
There is a rule in retail that you can’t sell something cheaper then it cost you if you want to stay in business.
The two groups that cost the most to insure are those under 6 months, think premature babies cost up to a million, and those over 60.
So, what telling me is that insurance companies who are willing to sell health insurance to seniors far under what it costs for their healthcare.
You have no concept of reality.
In the real-world health insurance cost double and triple after you reach 55.
Under the proposed Republican greed-based solution plan the cost for seniors would be up to 6 times higher. Imagine having to come up with over a $120,000 a year on a fixed income. The market cost has to reflect actual cost of services.
I never had a physical between running track in junior high and turning 63.
The insurance company would make a huge profit on healthy people and as every good business wants to make a profit.
Health insurance is provided by the employer and is designed to weed unhealthy people out of the system.
If you become sick and can’t work, you lose your job and your health insurance.
By the time you get old enough to start having major health problems you are being weeded out of the system by retirement.
The greed-based health system is designed to insure healthy people and let those with health problems go begging for care. The idea of health insurance was to take care of the sick not make billions on the healthy.
All you needed to do to know exactly what a mass murder does is listen to the tapes of the Las Vegas shooting.
The shots are being fired into a crowd as rapidly as the bump stocks would allow.
He was not aiming each shot.
So much for your superior knowledge about guns. Reality is a real bummer when you try to make it up as you go along.
Zardoz:
When you are shooting into a crowd it is like shooting at the broad side of the barn just fire and you will hit something. Assault weapons were designed to fire enough lead that you can see what you are hitting.
Sorry every news organization in the country refers to the AR-15 as an assault weapon. You can continue to “imagine” that a weapon that can fire 400 to 600 rounds a minute is not an assault weapon.
Your source is totally ignorant because it says the AR-15 was based on the M-16 when in fact AR-15 was invented first and it was so superior to any of the military weapons at the time the military used the design for the M-16.
The M-16 was originally designated a rifle, caliber 5.56 mm, M-16, is a United States military adaptation of ArmaLite AR-15.”
Your reference could not even get the most basic information correct. The AR-15 was so deadly the US military just had to have it. It was not knowledge it just run of the mill ignorance.
This takes us back to the Las Vegas shooting where the shooter had tracer bullets that he didn’t end using but they would let him see the directions the bullets were going. He was only aiming in the direction of the crowd. With an assault weapon you can watch as the targets fall to determine where the fire is going.
The Ruger Mini 14 is known as “the poor man’s assault rifle and has been used in a number mass murders
including the attack on a Connecticut beer distributor that killed 8 and wounded two in 2016; the 1999 shooting at Wedgewood church in Texas leaving 7 dead and seven wounded; Oregon’s Thurston high school in 1998 leaving four dead and twenty-two wounded; the 1993 Long Island railroad shooting leaving 6 dead and 22 wounded; the 1991 Luby’s massacre leaving 23 victims dead and 22 wounded; a 1987 shootout at a Florida shopping center, leaving 6 dead, including two police officers. Plus, Anders Behring Breivik killing of 77 people in Norway in 2011.
This isn’t a rifle this is a full-on assault weapon used in mass murder after mass murder.
The design was taken from a military assault weapon the mini 14 GB it comes with a pistol grip and folding stock.
You are right this must be banned also. You think you can hide this crap in plain site. The mass murders speak for themselves.
If the automatic has the capability of firing 600 rounds a minute the semi-automatic has the same limit it is just a matter of pulling the trigger that many times.
You agree that Zinovyevna (pen name Ayn Rand) came of age during the Russian Revolution and she was educated in a communist university.
She was educated in a communist university how could she not be influenced by her communist education?
Elements of Zinovyevna’s political philosophy predate communism and harken back to czarist Russia. The tiny minority harvesting the labor of the vast majority.
There is article in todays paper where the head of Federal Reserve was asked to explain why wages are not going up in America.
The law of supply and demand should take over. He called it a puzzle. But it is no puzzle at all it is Zinovyevna’s political philosophy taking root in America.
You can read the words, but you fail to understand the political philosophy it was pushing.
The premise of the book is the wealthy keep disappearing going off to a secret valley. They are going on strike because they are so mistreated.
Civilization in America falls apart because this tiny group is responsible for everything and the vast majority are like cattle that don’t have sense enough to come in out of the rain.
I not only read the book I book marked and underlined it. How that book could appeal to anyone, but an idiot is beyond me, but the right thinks she is a god.
You are like somebody on the Titanic worshiping icebergs. You would have to be completely blind not to realize how the middle-class lifestyle has deteriorated since Ayn Rand’s cult members got a hold of political power.
Sorry friend the communist had already invaded the United States and they became the founders of the modern conservative movement in America.
A contract is simply a bill of rights that spells out the rights of workers and I know how you hate rights of any kind.
It is not the barrel that melts it is the gas tube used to chamber the rounds.
Ruger mini !4 is just a cheaper assault weapon. It has the same design purpose mass murder.
The problem is Ruger makes several different versions some are regular rifles but the Mini-14 is a full-on mass murder weapon.
When the gun kills 77 people that is hardly a cosmetic reason. In just one incident it killed 77 people. Jobs require tools and mass murder is made easy with assault weapons.
The AR-15 is not a rifle in the classic sense of the word. Assault weapons are designed for one purpose mass murder whether on the battlefield or the high school.
All most all cars go over a 100 mph. My first car a `1953 Plymouth had no trouble going over a hundred. A few years ago, there were states out west without a speed limit. Now Texas has 85 mph limits on some roads. Roads will improve, and speed limits will go up. Very few people drive the posted limit and very few tickets are written for less than 10 mph over the posted limit. You need not ban the car you could just adjust the governor.
Mass murder is the design objective of assault weapons. They should have a rating of 50 kills in a minute or a 100 kills per minute.
If semi-automatic rifles had the same rate of fire ArmaLite would not have been able to get a patent for the AR-15 if it had not been a significant improvement. If they are the same, why object to banning assault weapons?
Each police force is different and is run by a chief that decides how mass murders will be handled. The Columbine police chief may have decided to change how mass murders will be handled in Columbine in the future, but he is not over the other police departments in America. Some other Police Department may decide to adopt the Combine method, but others will not. I know exactly how real shootings are handled in Huntington.
Nobody is going to respond in the first 2 minutes the imaginary heroes will find there is a big difference between what they imagine they will do and when it comes to stepping out into a mass murder’s line of fire.
I am not pointing the finger at the wrong people in fact I am not pointing a finger at people at all.
I am pointing a finger at the weapons of war designed with one purpose in mind mass murder whether on the battlefield or the High School.
You are just one head injury or burst blood vessel away from being a mass murderer.
Maybe your girlfriend ran off with another man or you got fired that assault weapon is right there to even the score.
And thousands like you have and thousands more like will commit mass murder in the future.
Semi-automatic or not the basic gun is designed to fire 740 to 900 rounds a minute according to one site. The only limiting factor how many times you can pull the trigger and with practice pulling the trigger a few hundred times a minute would be possible.
Gun free zones protect children.
People are killed with guns.
Introducing guns into schools has already resulted into accidental shootings.
Wherever there are guns there will be accidental shootings.
Even police officers are stripped of their guns and killed with there own guns.
Imagine what will happen when a teen strips a teacher of her gun and shoots the class room up.
The mass murderer won’t even have to go to the corner gun store.
A policeman who works at one of the local school put it best if teachers start carrying guns he will run from the building screaming.
Anybody that drives down a residential street at 90 mph in the evening to take gas to another cop, so he would not be embarrassed by asking for gas over the radio is an idiot. A child could have stepped off the curb. A few weeks after that ride the idiot ran up under a parked semi on his way home from work and suffered a severe brain injury. That did it for him being a cop. The only good thing was he didn’t hurt anyone else. When the local cops weren’t drag racing the state police they played tag. They would run their car into another police car and that guy was ‘it” and they would chase each other all over the city. After killing a few bystanders Allstate canceled the city’s insurance.
You are telling me there is a national chief of police who is over all the Police Department in America?
Sorry but each police department decides what policies they will enact they are under no obligation to adopt the procedures of any other police department.
If Peterson knew the location of the shooter, Broward County Sheriff’s Office mass shooting guidelines required him to enter the building and kill or stop the gunman. Such protocols are near-universal among U.S. law enforcement agencies.
One of the murders that took place next door to the Housing Inspector’s home, the Ambulance was on scene long before the police arrived. The reason that it took the police so long to arrive is they meet at a location three blocks away because they were not to be the only policeman on scene. This took place long after Columbine happened. So much for your theory. Yours is conjecture my example is actual fact.
Seventy-seven people dead is not cosmetic. Assault weapons are designed for one purpose to commit mass murder.
Each assault weapon to be banned earned spot on the list by used to murder hundreds. Murder is not cosmetic.
Several of the mass murders made very detailed plans and studied which type of assault weapons would allow them to kill the maximum number of people and that is the type of gun they purchased.
Mass murders have their own site on the internet where past mass murders are studied, and they learn from the mistakes of other mass murderers.
It is a weapon of war the US Army buys them because they kill the maximum number of people.
If you want to win a war you need the most deadly weapons in the world. It does not matter whether it is semi-automatic the basic gun is capable of firing 900 rounds a minute and the trigger can be pulled hundred times a minute.
Do you think teachers are not human?
Do you think a teacher that is having an affair with another teacher will even hesitate when things go bad to kill her because the gun is there?
Where ever there are guns people die.
Ten innocent people will die for any shooting that is prevented by a teacher.
What already have is none protected but at least two recent accidental shooting so far, the imaginary heroes have not killed any students.
Why do you think the Police officer said, ”If they let teachers carry guns he will run screaming from the buildings. Schools are little Peyton places adding guns to the mix is like adding nitro.
Hire vets for schools?
That worked out great another institution tried that.
This gave us mass murder after mass murder it even changed the language.
Going postal became the term for mass murder. The Post Office gave vets a number of extra points on the civil service exam, so vets would have an advantage in being hired.
The mass murders in the post offices across America inspired the mass murderers of today. The vet’s solution to their problem was to kill them and anyone around them.
That is how they were taught to solve a problem.
Your wrong many soldiers went off to war without automatic weapons for years they fought wars with ordinary rifles.
The AR-15 was not even invented to 1960 and the M-16 military copy was invented after that.
I somehow doubt that every single news story has found its way to the Internet.
You need to read other sources like newspapers and an occasional book.
In this case the Police in Charleston had been chasing a suspect when they cornered him some of the police were opposite each other when they began to fire at the suspect. One of the policemen was killed but the suspect lived.
That formation is known as a circular firing squad and if it happens to trained professional police officers
you bet school teachers will be outstanding at this formation, but it won’t only be school teachers that die. Police officers undergo months of training school teachers will be shown this is a gun and the bullets come out this end.
I do tend to procrastinate my last attempt to include your comment ended wiping out about two hours work after it was “saved” and I spent hours going through the computer trying to find it.
You are complaining about a government that has been corrupted by the gun manufacturers.
The number of lawyers doubled between the 70s and the 80s and most went to work for big corporations or banks.
They helped get supreme court decisions like the one that declared that political contributions are free speech and cannot be controlled.
Corporations claim all the rights of an individual until they get caught breaking the law then they want treated as a corporation where the officers cannot be prosecuted.
Government is the referee no game can be conducted without one.
Your pipe dream that corporations are moral is just that a pipe dream.
Think massive tobacco companies marketing cigarettes to children in foreign countries even though that it is an established fact that they will die in agony.
To be a mass murder the shooter had to kill at least four people.
A mass shooting is an incident involving multiple victims of firearms-related violence.[1] The United States' Congressional Research Service acknowledges that there is not a broadly accepted definition, and defines a "public mass shooting"[2] as one in which four or more people selected indiscriminately, not including the perpetrator, are killed, echoing the FBI definition[3][4] of the term "mass murder". However, according to the Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act of 2012, signed into law in January 2013, a mass killing is defined as a killing with at least three deaths, excluding the perpetrator.[5][6][7][8] Another unofficial definition of a mass shooting is an event involving the shooting (not necessarily resulting in death) of five or more people (sometimes four)[9] with no cooling-off period.[10] [9][11] Related terms include school shooting and massacre.
The Maryland shooting was not even a mass shooting.
Google:” Maryland School Gunman Confronted by Officer Shot Himself, Authorities Say” This article was dated Mar 26th six days after the shooting. Turns out the school officer was taking credit for a suicide. Typical gun nut taking credit where credit was not due.