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There was more information released about the Las Vegas shooting than any I can remember including actual pictures of the hotel room full of guns. Early on we knew that he had used bump stocks to make his assault
weapons fully automatic. There is a picture of at least 5 of the shooters 24 weapons. An arrest has been made in the Las Vegas shooting. They have arrested an arms dealer who supplied the shooter with 720 rounds of armor-piercing bullets. The arms dealers, Douglas Haig’s, finger prints were found on one of the box of ammunition. He is charged with the manufacture and sale of armor-piercing bullets. The shooter also had tracer rounds that he didn’t use. They did have a second person of interest but it was a dead end. The psychopath that do the shooting seldom have an accomplice.
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I retired from police department and even have distinguished service award from the chief of police but I was not a sworn officer. Many people who work in a police department are not sworn officers. I enforced laws but my area of law was specialized, it was contractor law. I didn’t write $5 parking tickets mine tickets started at $500 and went up from there. I was transferred to police department and I went kicking and screaming even though I made extra $15,000 a year.
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They say “none are so blind as those who refuse to see.” It is not that we don’t know the reason these mass murders happen it is that we refuse to see. I just watched the program on ID about a budding serial killer when asked why he killed them. He said, that he wanted to make it clear he did not hate prostitutes they were just easy to get in the car. He simply killed because “he wanted to.” Until we understand that the mass murder will continue. We have to come to realization that some people are driven to kill by their personality traits. You have to take control of what you can control. The magazines are not the focus of most news stories the assault weapons are. Most mass murders are going to take advantage of the high capacity clips to make their assault weapon more deadly.
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Actually, we now know that human brain does not mature until 25 before that impulse control leads to a lot of problems. Raising the age of gun ownership to 25 would help cut the murder rate but not stop most mass murders. Mass murder is not impulse killing mass murders are very carefully planned.
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Since any magazine that hold more than 10 rounds is considered high capacity the average should be less than that. I don’t think I have ever heard of a magazine being referred to low capacity.
I will concede that it is possible that FL shooter could have used 10 round clips but I will wait until someone involved in the investigation confirms the size of magazine used in the shooting.
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You can question anybody but you could not arrest him or take his assault weapon away under FL law at the time. The new law made after the mass murder would now allow them to take his assault weapon but would not stop him from buying another at a gun show. The laws that allow you to take someone’s guns if they are acting out are called red flag laws and the gun manufacturers hate them.
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I never claimed to be a police officer I said I retried from the police department there are many civilian employees who work at any police department. You simply made an assumption without thinking.
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I have been in many gun stores I also enforced licensing and other laws that gun stores violated. I even owned a shot gun for a few years before realized how much danger it placed my family in. We had one gun store in town that had placed large bill boards close to campus on his rental properties featuring assault weapons. It took a few thousand dollars in tickets to convince him push assault weapons to teenagers was a bad idea.
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Have you ever walked down a downtown street in a large city? You will meet people talking to themselves or saying the world will end tomorrow. Vets that are still fighting the Vietnam war. As a society we use to warehouse a large number of people but a court case put an end to that. Now the standard is that you have to “prove” that someone is a danger to themselves or others in a court of law and that is a high standard of prof. If your neighbor said I am going to kill you he would not be locked up. Just because somebody says something or acts out of the ordinary does not mean that they will be locked up. Just as the legal system would whether err on the side innocents they would rather err on the side freedom for the mentally ill and they are not the ones who are doing the mass murders anyway. Most of those who are mentally ill are lucky to find a warm place to sleep at night. There is two elements to every mass murder the shooter and the tools necessary to do the mass murders. We can only control one of those.
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Yours is the gun manufacturers’ argument if any controls are passed on guns of any kind it is a slippery slope and all guns will be gone forever. By using this argument, it is way to prevent any gun controls of any kind to ever to be put in place. This is like the argument that led to the death 58,220 Americans if Vietnam fell the whole world would be communist it was an invalid argument that cost many their lives.
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The sky did not fall during the 1994 assault weapon ban people continued to buy and sell guns and no other guns were banned during the time the assault weapon ban was in place.
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You would be like that poor guy who can no longer yell fire in crowded theater that was his interest. If we put your interest in firing assault weapons on one side of scale and the lives of the murder teenagers in FL on the other side the scale how do you think Solomon would resolve the conflict? Anytime more people are killed in American with guns since than all the wars American has ever been involved in it is a national disgrace.
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If you took an average of 30,000 deaths by gun a year for the 50 years since 1968 and that is a low figure you would have 1,500,000 guns deaths only 416,800 during WWII.
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There is a huge difference between a city of 9.5 million and a high school of 3,000. Only tow killings in a city of 9.5 million is extremely low.
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The mob gave us murder incorporated some members of the mob participated in over 100 killings. The victims were shot precisely. One gangster saw that Willie Sutton had been turned in by a retail worker he dispatched one of his goons to kill the rat. The victim was shot once in both eyes to send the message he was a rat.
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I have fired nothing but shot guns and pistols.
I find people talk a good fight but when it comes down to the brass tacks and nails they are quick to change their mind.
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The gun manufacturers are in the business of making killing people easy that is how they make their money. The interest of gun manufacturers are diametrically opposed to every American who wants to stay alive. The fact that the gun manufacturers’ propaganda is so readily accepted by a good portion of the population without even thinking about it is frightening.
The NRA spokesman got up at the CNN meeting and said that the Media loved mass murders because their ratings went up but funny she never mentions that guns sales go up after a mass murder. She was so obnoxious that she was the first woman in 200 years that the American people wanted to burn at the stake.