The Lack Of Healthcare Coverage

So by your way of thinking, you're entitled to services from others. Doctors, drug companies, nurses, and insurance companies owe you something. They took the initiative to be successful, and so you think you're entitled to their skills because you lack them. Tough, grow up. I'm 21 years old and self-insured (meaning I have the assets to remain solvent even during a serious medical problem), so why can't fifty year olds figure this out? We should encourage excellence by not rewarding failure. I don't owe you a cent, and neither does the medical profession.

He is also witnessing you pass judgement on us. I think he frowns on such things you?

Oh to be above it all, you get dizy looking down from so high? Or are you a sinner too, LOL.
How does it go WV, he who has not sinned cast the first stone? Is that a rock in your hand?

It brightens my day to see so many intelligent Americans shun socialized medicine, I live it daily and it doesn't work. The weak minded left/socialist will never give up their dream of utopia. If they win we shall be expected to foot the bill yet again for their social experiments.

Put the marijuana down....
If you're 21 years old...you're still green. You don't know anything about the workings of the world, or its' meaning....talk to me in 15 or 20.
If your company does an "Enron", you'll be stuck out like the rest of us...wondering were your benefits went.
I didn't say drs. drug companies, and insurances companies and the like owe me something...what they owe me is not to "gouge" me..
I was in healthcare for more than 15 years...so don't talk down to me, like "i'm green", or something. I know better than you, boy.
No, you don't owe me a cent...but you do owe the government your fair share of taxes, which I am seeking to pay and subsidize those who cannot afford it...especially, children, the elderly and the terminally ill. No heart, no soul.

I don't work for a company, I am an idependent insurance adjuster. I insure myself, I have no debt, and I have been working since I was 18 (in this field), I know what I'm talking about. I OWN my car, I OWN my bike, and I pay rent three months in advance. I support myself very well without government intervention, so don't talk down to me.

Health care providers can gouge all they want, they provide a service for money, and you have no right to it without payment. You seek to use tax dollars to subsidize health care, yet I know you don't support equal taxation. You support a system where by the most productive support the least productive, and such systems ALWAYS fail. No soul? If you'd bothered to read my first post, you'd know that I support criminalizing not having adequate care for your child, and thus would support STATE-level health care plans for CHILDREN ONLY. Children don't have the same opportunities or responsibilities that adults have.

I'll compromise with you though. Hear me out before you bash it:

The federal government will provide free health care to all those seeking it in exchange for military service. Oh, right, they've already got a program like that, and it's called the DoD.

I don't give a good g.d. who you think you are, or what you do, or what you have. I want my tax dollars to go to the needy, and I don't need you to tell me who that is supposed to be. It's my money. Your money and my money go into a pot...a common pot...so we have equal sayso. You can say whatever you will about where your money goes, as I do mine.
You haven't lived long enough to tell me anything...therefore, I will not listen to idle talk or empty rhetoric. You left out old people who may not have family and may be on fixed or no income...what do you propose to do about them?
You have revealed that you have little or no heart, no soul, and no conscience. Therefore, you're to be ignored, because you offer nothing of value. Get a life, because you have none.

I agree he is witnessing me passing judgement on you.

Still I think I'll take my chances with my own sins, wouldn't want to trade them for yours.

You argue like a seven year-old. "I'm older so I win", childish and as usual, you provide no fact-based analysis, only an emotion-based spiel filled with anger geared towards the asshole on the other end of a computer. I need to get a life? I'd say we're both pretty lifeless considering the degree to which our time is spent on this board. Is it so hard to remain civil?

I suggest cutting taxes and permitting individuals to give to charities who provide health care assistance. This allows me to keep my money, and you and the rest of the socialized medicine crowd to implement your plan. The elderly had an entire lifetime to put together as nestegg, if they chose not to, then they live with the consequences of their actions, or rely on the love of their family to help them. My parents will be well off in retirement, neither will file for social security, and they lived in a trailer for the first few years of their marriage. Success is possible, you simply don't think it is.

Most of the Republicans here have no debate skills.

Well, considering the only "debate" coming from the pro-socialization of America crowd has been emotional "for the kids, and needy" out pouring, with the anti-socialization, stand up and take responsibility people using things like facts, I'd say you got that backwards.

Well, considering the only "debate" coming from the pro-socialization of America crowd has been emotional "for the kids, and needy" out pouring, with the anti-socialization, stand up and take responsibility people using things like facts, I'd say you got that backwards.

I'm short on time this AM but, just for fun, could we quit throwing about who is sinning and who isn't? I get it. I am an agent of Satan for not wanting my taxes raised to support a national healthcare program. Now, can we move on to the actual debating points?

You argue like a seven year-old. "I'm older so I win", childish and as usual, you provide no fact-based analysis, only an emotion-based spiel filled with anger geared towards the *** on the other end of a computer. I need to get a life? I'd say we're both pretty lifeless considering the degree to which our time is spent on this board. Is it so hard to remain civil?

I suggest cutting taxes and permitting individuals to give to charities who provide health care assistance. This allows me to keep my money, and you and the rest of the socialized medicine crowd to implement your plan. The elderly had an entire lifetime to put together as nestegg, if they chose not to, then they live with the consequences of their actions, or rely on the love of their family to help them. My parents will be well off in retirement, neither will file for social security, and they lived in a trailer for the first few years of their marriage. Success is possible, you simply don't think it is.

Face it you should not have told us you were a youngster , green about life and so opinionated.

Your getting more Christian by the minute, LOL. Would Jesus trade sins with me, since you know so much of how he feels?

To me and many that is the only debate point

Are you a decent human being who wants to help the truly sick and needy ?

Or debate point B

Are you a swine who would let others die for lack of health care?

Only two points that need discussing.