Bible Party of the USA

What exactly are you afraid of?

We are talking about adults. Are you seven years old? If not, why would you attempt to draw such a parallel?

Losing historical perspective due to political and religious pressure.

It is an analogy my friend, learn it. I am merely pointing out some people's opinions are more well founded and educated than others. This is not grade school where everybody gets a prize so no one feels left out. The real world doesn't work like that.

Worry about that when you have a history.

When we were staioned in the UK, my one of wife's professors told her the US doesn't have a history. His point was that our country was too young to have an historical perspective.

However, you are correct about not repeating mistakes of history.

However, a good decision made when it can make a difference with possession of the most important facts associated with a probllem is better than a great decision made with 100% of the facts after the implementation can be effective.

I don't understand what you are trying to get at.

People must have a basic set of facts and values they use as a framework for their decisons. If they do not have these things, their decisons depend on a complex and lengthy decision process based on research into the issue at hand, surrounding issues and their ramifications.

If a person has a broad education, experience, and a world-view that facilitates incorporation of new data into a coherent whole, then they are better able to make rapid effective decisions than those who do not.

A rapid effective decision based on less information is better than a more methodical decision made after events have overcome the issue and may have changed the fundamentals.

A rapid effective decision based on less information is better than a more methodical decision made after events have overcome the issue and may have changed the fundamentals.

And who had this better than the founding fathers?

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But what if you have the time? and what "framework" are you suggesting?

What was the education of the "founding fathers" based upon? What were the values and nature of the society in which they developed to adulthoood and lived as contributing adults?

Where did they get their conceptual framework?

It could be argued that later generations have had the benefit of more information access than that of the founding fathers. The conceptual framework/world-view was and is the key.

You are going in circles my friend we have already discussed this.

I answered the question and you don't accept the answer.

That doesn't invalidate the facts or the answer. Your lack of acceptance does not make one whit of difference to the situation

today in which the Judeo-Christian culture and belief system is under systematic attack.

If Christians and Jews do not organize and defend their beliefs in the public policy and legislative arena then they will become second class citizens in the country/countries that were founded on their values.

Most of the founding fathers were raised in a Christian society by Christian parents. Their formal and home education were based on the Bible and its contents.

Their (of some of them) later choice to abandon Christianity in favor of another belief like agnosticism or deism does not negate their upbringing or their acceptance or promotion of Judeo-Christian values through their development and adoption of the Delaration of Independence and Constitution.

If you read the sermon at the link I provided to Markx15 you'll see a better explanation than I can give of the behavior of people who accept and use/abuse the freedom given by our Creator to all human beings while denying His existence or Word.

No they'd simply be equal to everybody else, no other religion has control of government except Christianity. We still have this thing called the "establishment clause" that prohibits religion from the government arena. I don't think you enjoy it if we put "there is no god" on our currency, so i would expect the same back in return. Christians and Christianity has always enjoyed a certain level of favoritism in government, to demonstrated this point try to enter public office by swearing in on anything other than the bible and you'll hear the public out-cry. No other religion has their documents in in the court-rooms (10 commandments?).

and MLK jr. was raised in a racist society.

they can't negate their promotion of judeo-christian values becuase they never promoted it in the first place.

He mustn't want us to believe in him to badly since he is in hiding.

Atheists are your source? Sure, that's a real unbiased basis.

You are making my point that this country and its institutions were founded on Judeo-Christian principles. It should remain so instead of being changed into a godless society.

What societal group supported his fight for abolition of racist policies in the USA? In fact, what societal group fought against racism long before MLK jr was born?

Every human society is racist in one way or another. What set of values other than Judeo-Christian accepts or establishes the equality of all humans?

Are you in all seriousness going to give me bible quotes? If it twas truly that simple then Christianity would be the only religion.

It isn't a source. It's an illustrated meant to show the ridiculousness of Christians who try to play the victims.