Bible Party of the USA

Sounds interesting for people of faith.

Are you a person of faith?

The Church is the Body of Christ. Christians are adopted Children of (Jacob) Israel. They are adopted through acceptance of Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. Christians, who keep their active faith in churches and separate from their government, choose to subject the Body of Christ to temporal rule. Mark 12: 17, ?Then Jesus told them, ?Give back to Caesar the things that are Caesar?s and to God the things that are God?s.? In this passage, Caesar refers to the civil power: a temporal ruler.

Why were the Children of Israel subject to a temporal rule? They asked for it. Taxes replaced tithes when the Children of Israel rejected God as their King. They traded a 10% tithe for a 30%-70%, and in some forms of government 100% tax. They asked for a human king. 1 Samuel 8:4 ? 8:22, ?So all the elders of Israel gathered together and went to Samuel at Ramah. They said to him, "Look, you are old, and your sons do not follow your example. Therefore, appoint a king to judge us the same as all the other nations have."

When they said, "Give us a king to judge us," Samuel considered their demand sinful, so he prayed to the LORD. But the LORD told him, "Listen to the people and everything they say to you. They have rejected you; they have rejected Me as their king. They are doing the same thing to you that they have done to Me, since the day I brought them out of Egypt until this day, abandoning Me and worshiping other gods. Listen to them, but you must solemnly warn them and tell them about the rights of the king who will rule over them."

Samuel told all the LORD's words to the people who were asking him for a king. He said, "These are the rights of the king who will rule over you: He can take your sons and put them to his use in his chariots, on his horses, or running in front of his chariots. He can appoint them for his use as commanders of thousands or commanders of fifties, to plow his ground or reap his harvest, or to make his weapons of war or the equipment for his chariots. He can take your daughters to become perfumers, cooks, and bakers. He can take your best fields, vineyards, and olive orchards and give them to his servants. He can take a tenth of your grain and your vineyards and give them to his officials and servants. He can take your male servants, your female servants, your best young men, and your donkeys and use them for his work. He can take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves can become his servants. When that day comes, you will cry out because of the king you've chosen for yourselves, but the LORD won't answer you on that day."

The people refused to listen to Samuel. "No!" they said. "We must have a king over us. Then we'll be like all the other nations: our king will judge us, go out before us, and fight our battles."

Samuel listened to all the people's words and then repeated them to the LORD. "Listen to them," the LORD told Samuel. "Appoint a king for them."?

Look at what has happened recently with the Supreme Court?s decisions. Government can now take land God gave you and give it to someone else for their use, not just for the use of the government. Look what has happened with our ability to acknowledge God and God?s Son, Jesus in our everyday life. It is under constant assault. If Bible and Torah believing Children of Israel continue to sit on the bench and watch this happen, we accept what the Jews accepted when they heard the warning from Samuel, ?The people refused to listen to Samuel. "No!" they said. "We must have a king over us. Then we'll be like all the other nations: our king will judge us, go out before us, and fight our battles."?

If that king takes the form of a President who may be unholy, a congress who are corrupt, and a federal and supreme court who are tyrannical, think about the result. We are seeing some of that result now. What we see is the medium sized snowball part-way down the hill, gathering speed and more snow to increase in size until it is unstoppable by mortal works.

The United States has a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. If God?s people stay out of the government and leave their government to pagans, they have only themselves to blame for the result. There is no religious test for representative participation in the US government. That is good because the government could change the test to what ever religion had gained the most power in the temporal plane. As Christians and Jews we have an obligation to obey God. To obey God, we must know God?s Word. We can verify if Children of Israel know God?s Word.

We are called to put that knowledge into action. James 1:22 ? 1:25, ?But be doers of the word and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. Because if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man looking at his own face in a mirror; for he looks at himself, goes away, and right away forgets what kind of man he was. But the one who looks intently into the perfect law of freedom and perseveres in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer who acts?this person will be blessed in what he does.?

If we can?t obey God because our government rules so, then we must become fully engaged, and place God?s children in government. One way to do that is to leave it to the present system of secular political parties. Think how that has worked in the USA to create conditions in which God?s Word can be obeyed. Every organization shapes its members to fit their corporate culture. Organizational design ensures members who reach the top of an organization conform to the values of the organization. If a political organization is based on secular ideals and embraces evil thoughts and practices then Children of Israel who enter those organizations with the intent of becoming leaders and changing those organizations are themselves changed by the time they become leaders of the organizations. This change is insidious, happening over time and being nearly unnoticeable to the person undergoing the change.

Another way to place God?s children in government is to establish a political party that is based on God?s Word and requires all its members to obey God?s Word. God?s Word is then the corporate culture of the party. It changes members of the party to conform to God?s Word. If they waiver through interaction with secular entities, the Bible party itself will reinforce God?s influence and negate the temporal influence. This may create the conditions in which society can be neutral or freindly to God's Word.

Very much so.

l say you shouldn't mix business with pleasure, and likewise, you shouldn't mix religion with politics....

I agree Tulip, I prefer that the two shall never meet.

Tulip,
That is something that we can agree on! well said.

Scary, scary stuff. How people could be so intellectually deficient to join such a party never ceases to amaze and sadden me.

Nice opinion, Why?

Professor of chaos, promotes and maintains chaos. Why?

-volunteer

history is a great teacher...it is about human nature in regard to those things we get emotional about. If emotion gets in the way of rational thought you are making less logical, less rational decisions. In politics it is important to be as rational and as logical as possible to make difficult decissions based on rational and logical evidence, and historical pathology.

Don't you find your religous preference most of the time comes in direct line with your political beliefs? IMO you cannot separate religion from politics or the other way around.

Intellectually deficient? Define such a term and lets see how it applys to you? Saddem is how you will feel after i'm done with the comparison.

Maybe because he is Intellectually deficient?

Yes, l agree as a voter, because we all follow our values and ethics and in many of us {voters} this ties in with our religious belief. However, l think that as much as possible, even while the personal foundation of a leader might be religion, that it needs to be separate from politics.

Historically, religion has been used by leaders to build a kind of charisma so that in their piousness they are not questioned. This can be a danger. We see in Islam that religion is so intrenched in the government that everything hinges on it. People get passionate, inflamed, riots and violence erupts.

Now if religion is kept out of politics, sure you will see people get upset, but they strive to keep the issues rational and factual based.

I see it like hiring a lawyer. Now if you get emotionally involved with that lawyer, how will they be able to properly prepare you, to cross examine others that might be testifying against you, etc. etc.??? The case they are hired to defend will not be put in the proper frame and rational decision making will not be made, since emotions are involved.

This is similar because to a lot of people, at times of crisis, religion is just if not more passionate and vital to them.

A great example of "Intellectually deficient" would be the spelling and grammar in the above quote.

And the second attempt at a reply by some one who does not know the difference.

Professor, do you have some anger issues? Because for the last, l don't know how many posts you are simply being non-contributory and down-right rude.

For some reason i can spot these way off in the distance. I use this time to take out some aggression on someone who is asking for it. YOu should try it, it's fun some times. Although not very PC.

I do believe we are all children of God. So therefore nothing changes, ever. We were not born separate from the church or government and we are all the same physically, SO how would chiurch and state be a separate body>?

You will all find out one day, and it comes to us all, that God thinks of his people as one, and unless you are saved you shall not see the gates of heaven, thats Biblical my friends like it or not.