Bible Party of the USA

Humanism

If Christianity promotes equal rights so much why has slavery existed in western nations existed right up until the 1900's? If Christianity promoted equality so much why has the bible been used just as often to give people more rights as it has been used to take them away?

What text commands people to "obey thy master" and to make women in a submissive role secondary to that of man's.

Every human society is racist in one way or another. What set of values other than Judeo-Christian accepts or establishes the equality of all humans?

Really?

Humanism creates its own values. There is no objective measure. Each humanist is able to determine their own right and wrong. When this happens, there can be no equality because each individual thinks their needs and wants are more important than anyone else's. Any other assertion ignores the basis and origin of the golden rule.

You tell me.

There is no better source than the Word of God.

You used an atheist organization as a source when you used their cartoon. I was referring to that act.

When someone attacks you or your family then denies it by ridiculing the idea that they could attack someone who is blessed and highly favored, they are being disingenuous.

Humanism creates its own values. There is no objective measure. Each humanist is able to determine their own right and wrong. When this happens, there can be no equality because each individual thinks their needs and wants are more important than anyone else's. Any other assertion ignores the basis and origin of the golden rule.

Really? Maybe the Enlightenment values of the Founding Fathers who were, by and large Deists, which is very little like the Judeo-Christian tradition.

So, "If you don't agree with me you will burn in eternal hell." is accepting and establishing the equality of all humans? The science driven Enlightenment project, sir, is the world-view that bore the weight of Christian failures from the beginning of this Republic! Too bad FDR managed to kill that for us...

With the golden rule replacing the other commandments as Jesus taught, be careful of utility monsters. John Mill already lost to it.

In regard to humanism, why the false dilemma? I smell nihilism here. It is completely unclear that ANYTHING about your claim bears truth-

Humanism creates its own values? This is a bad thing? I must be missing something, OH wait! I'm not the kind of guy who is validated by some ethereal power, I validate myself.

And of course, "god" is an objective measure. Objective... how can a religious person even use that word when before even entering the marketplace for the free exchange of ideas s/he is already viewing the word through religious-text shaded glasses. You prove my point by responding to Fatal Freedoms with Bible verses.

About moral relativism, serious humanist philosophers long ago discarded that... It is prima facie false! There is no possible successful argument for moral relativism.

Why is it that my neighbor's needs and wants are more important than mine again? I completely missed the justification for that monstrous notion in all my years of life and research.

I simply cannot understand the need for "god" or "something greater than us" to validate one's position! I return to the Nietzsche in expressing my disgust: Fear & vengeance have long driven the struggle of sheep to make their inability to defeat hawks a strength.

I think you know the answer to that question.

The word of god, according to the words of men. But as both you and I know, the words of men are not to be trusted.

Actually no, I just pulled the image off of google. The image though is so common it would be difficult to find the actual author. But this is all besides the point.

If you were not so disillusioned perhaps you'd feel more inclined to find out what humanism actually is. But regardless of what humanism means it is still the prevailing philosophy out of the renaissance era which the founding elite embraced.

You didn't answer my questions.

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Try saying that to someone who hasn't been around the world a couple of times. It might work better.

That's your interpretation and you are entitled to live and die by it.

Unless I misinterpreted your question you made an assertion that a single passage of text made those commands and asked me which passage matched your assertion. I asked you to supply the passage since I know of no such passage in the Bible. You refused and basically told me to supply the answer to the question you begged. Nice copout.

I found the source as soon as I looked for it. That is why I stated the source when I responded.

No, it is not beside the point. It is part of the point. You seem incensed that I or any other Christian would believe we and our faith and our ability to pass that faith on to our children and children's children are under attack.

The fact that you accept the image as so common that you feel it would be too onerous to investigate its source indicates the pervasiveness and organization of the enemy.

This is why it is necessary for Christians and Jews to organize politically like every other segment of our society.

I did, you chose not to read and analyze the answers.